Originally Posted by offwhitewhite
Originally Posted by Fresh Like Will
No it didn't. "To each their own"? You're always throwing in jabs to discredit Naughty Dog and the Uncharted series. The original Tomb Raider had nowhere near the complexity of the Uncharted series. There's no way a PS1 would be able to have a game like Uncharted just based on technical limitations. The Tomb Raider series in general never had a lot of the gameplay elements that Uncharted had until the reboot.
The original Tomb Raider games were good for their time, but lets not pretend like they're not overly simple with a sexualized and objectified protagonist that was never meant to be taken as seriously as the characters in Uncharted until the reboot when they gave Lara more practical clothing. There's actually Tomb Raider purists who don't like the reboot because they think the games aren't
like the old ones.
I'm a huge Naughty Dog fan and own all of their games including Uncharted 1-3. I just feel Uncharted is one of the most overrated franchises in recent memory.
No it didn't what? Steal the entire premise of Tomb Raider and replace a woman with a middle aged white guy. I don't understand how anyone can argue against this.
Lara Croft was only sexualized in the ads to sell the game. Look at the ads in the 90's, every ad was like this. She was always a great character and revolutionary because of the fact that she was never sexualized and objectified in game by other characters. She was only just a hero and that's why she's always been praised.
A lot of purists don't like the reboot because there isn't the same puzzle solving and enough exploration as the old ones, despite your claim did it did less because of limitations. The old Tomb Raiders are more complex than Uncharted because of that fact. Uncharted is : corridor, room with endless enemies, room with a puzzle, over the top cinematic. Rinse and repeat.
This argument is tired and dead already though. Both are great franchises though: one is more a shooter, the other is more about puzzle solving and exploration.
I think you're grossly under-selling the Uncharted games and the work Naughty Dog has put into the series. The stories are similar in the way that the protagonists are exploring abandoned and lost areas. Other than that, the motives and backgrounds are different. The primary influence to Uncharted are old pulp action films like Indiana Jones. Which predate the Tomb Raider franchise. You could draw more parallels to those other than Uncharted and Tomb Raider both being video games.
You do a lot more than go through corridors, do puzzles, and watch cutscenes in Uncharted. (EDIT: And the Uncharted games have a large percentage of open areas. Especially in 2 and 3.) The gun combat and the ability to climb a large portion of the environment and also use it as cover. The Prince of Persia/God of War-esque simultaneously vertical and horizontal platforming. The collect-a-thon treasure hunting. The stealth combat. The vehicular levels and combat. The melee combat.
I see where this is going though.