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[shottadru]

Lol console quarrels. I think its based on opinion about the exclusives. Because I like exclusives on both consoles. yall carry on tho, I'm playing Zelda on my DS until Borderlands. I may get Bloodboure depending on reviews, not wasting my time like I did with the Order.

 

[shottadru]

 

Correct. Did you read the article about Yoshida not understanding why the ps4 was selling so well?
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-08-19-we-dont-know-why-ps4-is-selling-yoshida

It's like a youtuber said, $ony ....ed up the least. $ony played it safe after messing up their ps3 launch.
$ony would not have the lead had m$ debuted the console they had now.

good exclusives
constant updates
and most important VERY open to feedback.
That's the heat m$ is bringing right now.
 

Still using that Yoshida article. The system is exceeding expectations but if you think they didn't think it will sell well then you didn't follow last gen.

Sony have Europe, Middle East and Japan on lock. Even if MS had launched the XBone as it is after the 180's and price drop, it would still be behind. It would only be competitive in the US and the UK.
PS3 turned around a 10 million deficit and that was with a high price, releasing late and being hard to develop for.

They fixed all that with the PS4 and went head to head with the Xbone. After the massacre at E3 and with the 4theplayers marketing slogan it was GG's.

Even after the 180's only way the Xbone could beat the PS4 in their strongest market was to slash the price and bundle two games for the holidays but that didn't last long as PS4 retook the lead in Jan so no even the console MS has now isn't doing anything.

As for the heat.
Sony has more exclusives coming than MS. This quarter has been barren for MS while Sony had The Order, Bloodborne and MLB.

Also coming out this year is:
Until Dawn
Uncharted 4
Tearaway Unfolded
Toukiden Kawami
Persona 5
Dragon Quest Heroes
Ratchet and Clank
Disgea 5
J Stars Victory Versus
One Piece Pirate Warriros

I'll give you constant updates. MS are good at that but I dunno if that classify as heat and VERY open to feedback is heat

They are far in the lead because they reversed all what went wrong on the PS3 plus more in addition to MS dropping the ball.

You actually can compared the feedback and updates as heat. You can't count the amount of time PSN has been down either hacked or "maintenece" and I've seen much more changes and enhancements to Xbox UI compared to PS.

I'm not going to go back and forth with sales figures because we have one set of hands, I care about my systems, but Sony has a major advantage being they are offered in many more markets compared to Xbox, some countries people go to the store and don't have a choice lol.

Any Bloodbourne videos or something I'm trying to past time at work, a console war is not gonna help the time pass.

 

[stay lurkin]

I'm outta here

 

[memphissfinest]

THE BEST EXCLUSIVE ON EITHER CONSOLE TO DATE IS FORZA 5.

THE ORDER DID NOT DELIVER LIKE I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO. MY NEXT PURCHASE FOR PS4 WILL BE MGS5: PHANTOM PAIN.

 

[stay lurkin]

Forza 5

 

[ciscokid]

shottadru if u have played any of the souls games u kno what your getting from bloodbourne. I don't thi k u need to wait in reviews for a decision

 

[blakep267]

It's not as simple as saying what Sony did right. Nintendo had the ball in their court. They launched first but didn't read the market properly and we got the wiiu. Everything was primed for them to take it following the Wii.

Microsoft got arrogant and thought it was a good idea launching a $500 system with a peripheral people didn't really want. Did they not learn anything last gen from Sony launching a $600 with a mandatory blu ray that at the time let's be real nobody wanted or needed. That hurt more than the always online messaging. People aren't going to pay more for a console that does the same thing as its competitor.

The U.S. and UK were pretty much in mocrosofts hands. All they had to do was launch at $299 with no kinect. They were never going to win mainland Europe or Japan etc. The always online stuff blew over.

What did Sony do right? They launched at a great price and on time. By doing that, they gained larger portions of the U.S. and UK which they didn't really have last gen. They were always going to do well in Germany, France, Spain Japan etc.

 

[iYen]

And you keep saying If M$ didn't do this and if M$ didn't do that they would be leading. But the truth is even with all the changes the ps4 is still outselling the Xbox one... The holiday is the only months that it outsold the ps4 and let's be serious with all them deals they were basically giving them joints away.

I mean I couldn't care less. But there are those that do and I understand that.

I never said that m$ be leading had they released the console they have now. I stated m$ ....ed up and $ony dominated on their .... ups.

Had there been fewer .... ups made by m$, do you really think $ony would have the lead they have now?

The obvious answer is no.

So trying to get consoles into a lot of ppl's hands is a bad thing? That was m$'s way of competing and obviously it worked for 3 months.

I own both consoles, so any good news about $ony/m$ is music to my ears.

Speaking of music,

 

[iYen]

THE BEST EXCLUSIVE ON EITHER CONSOLE TO DATE IS FORZA 5.

 

[Ricky D]

Originally Posted by iYen  

I need to know about this heat that MS is bringing

good exclusives

constant updates

and most important VERY open to feedback.

That's the heat m$ is bringing right now.

What good exclusives? I assume you aren't talking about anything recent? Sunset and Forza Horizon 2 came out 4 and 5 months ago. Am I missing something?

They have some nice little updates here and there but nothing imo that is must have.

 

[ohcho sinco]

I actually do own an xbone but i also built a PC from the ground up for streaming purposes, on a side note if any NTers are interested in joining to pull a Twitch channel together send me a PM.

As far as exclusives, yes Forza is the top exclusive right now, the order had high expectations but bombed because of its weak game play. (Think of a pig coated in diamonds and gold). but when people say that Playstation doesnt have any games i would love to challenge that.

for someone to say there are "no games" is kind of ignorant considering that all major games coming out this year (batman, MGS, madden, witcher 3) are coming to both consoles. It really depends on what you play and who you play it with. Sony has been giving out free games since they announced PS+. I dont have a ps3 anymore, but i still have Bioshock, arkham city, ps all stars, yakuza 3, payday 2 still bought and saved on my PSN account because you will never know when you might want to play it.

 

[Ricky D]

 

THE BEST EXCLUSIVE ON EITHER CONSOLE TO DATE IS FORZA 5.

 

[shottadru]

It's not as simple as saying what Sony did right. Nintendo had the ball in their court. They launched first but didn't read the market properly and we got the wiiu. Everything was primed for them to take it following the Wii.

Microsoft got arrogant and thought it was a good idea launching a $500 system with a peripheral people didn't really want. Did they not learn anything last gen from Sony launching a $600 with a mandatory blu ray that at the time let's be real nobody wanted or needed. That hurt more than the always online messaging. People aren't going to pay more for a console that does the same thing as its competitor.

The U.S. and UK were pretty much in mocrosofts hands. All they had to do was launch at $299 with no kinect. They were never going to win mainland Europe or Japan etc. The always online stuff blew over.

What did Sony do right? They launched at a great price and on time. By doing that, they gained larger portions of the U.S. and UK which they didn't really have last gen. They were always going to do well in Germany, France, Spain Japan etc.

I dont consider it as arrogance, yes they should of dropped the Kinect less at launch but the experience isn't the same without so I know why it was packed together. I love my Kinect so I have no regrets on my Day 1 purchase. I think they were trying to offer that full experience and it backfired greatly, also poor marketing prior to launch, all the "need to be online" stuff.

You can't say it does the same thing as it's competitor because the X1 is packed with features you can't get out of the PS and vice versa.

 

[blakep267]

It's not as simple as saying what Sony did right. Nintendo had the ball in their court. They launched first but didn't read the market properly and we got the wiiu. Everything was primed for them to take it following the Wii.


Microsoft got arrogant and thought it was a good idea launching a $500 system with a peripheral people didn't really want. Did they not learn anything last gen from Sony launching a $600 with a mandatory blu ray that at the time let's be real nobody wanted or needed. That hurt more than the always online messaging. People aren't going to pay more for a console that does the same thing as its competitor.


The U.S. and UK were pretty much in mocrosofts hands. All they had to do was launch at $299 with no kinect. They were never going to win mainland Europe or Japan etc. The always online stuff blew over.


What did Sony do right? They launched at a great price and on time. By doing that, they gained larger portions of the U.S. and UK which they didn't really have last gen. They were always going to do well in Germany, France, Spain Japan etc.

I dont consider it as arrogance, yes they should of dropped the Kinect less at launch but the experience isn't the same without so I know why it was packed together. I love my Kinect so I have no regrets on my Day 1 purchase. I think they were trying to offer that full experience and it backfired greatly, also poor marketing prior to launch, all the "need to be online" stuff.

You can't say it does the same thing as it's competitor because the X1 is packed with features you can't get out of the PS and vice versa.

I say arrogance because since the 360 did so well, they thought that pricing it at $500 and not giving an option would be okay with consumers. I like my kinect to, but it should've been $299 without and $399 with kinect. There is no need for a $500+ console anymore

And when I say does the same stuff, neither system has must have game changing exclusives. people wan a play Fifa, madden, Battlefield, COD and Destiny. both consoles do that. One did it cheaper. Third parties drive sales.

 

[shottadru]

@shottadru if u have played any of the souls games u kno what your getting from bloodbourne. I don't thi k u need to wait in reviews for a decision

You referring to Dark Souls? I heard those games are crazy difficult.

 

[T0INE]

You'd swear there wasn't a Xbox One thread with the frequency it's talked about in here.

 

[stilljustblaze]

Does dying light bother anyone's eyes? Or give headaches?

It does for me. Not sure if it's because my tv is 4 years old and the resolution isn't as great ?

 

[shottadru]

Gotcha @blakep267

 

[38816]

Im on that dying light who trynna run?

 

[ciscokid]

You referring to Dark Souls? I heard those games are crazy difficult.

Do u have a ps3? Rent demons souls or dark souls if u can. They are great gamess but not for everyone

 

[Bad Religion]

Id have to agree with Forza 5 being the best next-gen exclusive. 

 

[D Double]

GDC 2015 – Project Morpheus Update

Hello from GDC 2015! About a year ago, we unveiled a prototype for Project Morpheus, the virtual reality (VR) system for PlayStation 4. Since then, we’ve been hard at work making the system even better. I’m pleased to return to GDC with an update on our progress, bringing us one step closer to its consumer release. We believe VR will shape the future of games, and I can’t wait for you to try Project Morpheus when it launches in the first half of 2016.

Our goal with VR is to deliver a sense of presence, making the player feel as though they’ve stepped inside the world of a game. The new Project Morpheus prototype brings us closer to that goal, as it improves the visual experience and tracking accuracy, both of which are critical to achieving sense of presence.

[h3]Key changes:[/h3]

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  OLED display – In exchange for the 5 inch LCD, the new Morpheus VR headset is equipped with a 5.7 inch 1920 X RGB X 1080 resolution OLED display. This new screen expands the field of view and enables low persistence, removing motion blur.
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  120hz refresh rate – The previous refresh rate spec has been doubled for this new prototype, which means games for Morpheus can be rendered at 120fps. When combined with the OLED display’s high refresh rate and the power of PS4, Morpheus is able to output amazingly smooth visuals.
  
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  Super low latency – We know how critical low latency is to delivering a great VR experience, and we’ve reduced latency to less than 18ms, about half of what the first Morpheus prototype had. Low latency is critical to deliver a sense of presence, at the same time making the VR experience comfortable to players.
  
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  More accurate tracking- To make positional tracking more precise, we’ve added three LEDs to the headset – one on the front and two on the side – for a total of nine LEDs to support robust 360 degree tracking.
  
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  User-friendly design – We’ve made the Morpheus VR headset easier to put on and take off, with a single band design and quick release button. The headband supports the weight of the unit on the top of your head, so there is no pressure on your face. Other components have also been adjusted and configured to make the headset lighter, so that players do not find the headset cumbersome or uncomfortable to use.
  

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Revealing this new prototype is an important step in our journey to release Project Morpheus, but there is more to come. We’ll share additional details at E3 and beyond. In particular, we’ll show more VR games at E3 and later events as we get closer to launch.


A new dimension of gaming is almost here, and PlayStation again is at the forefront with Project Morpheus.




http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/03/03/project-morpheus-ps4-vr-upgraded-coming-in-2016/

Really excited about the support for 120fps and an OLED screen.

Some impressions


Digital Foundry: Hands-on with Sony's near-final Project Morpheus

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/1431980/

[QUOTE]We can safely say that it's a significant improvement over the already impressive developer HMD we've already tested. Looking beyond the raw spec, at the more practical level, Sony's designers have created a significant milestone in crafting a lightweight headset, the redesigned strap not placing any significant pressure on your face, distributing and balancing weight between the forehead and the back of your skull. It feels comfortable to wear, and we're curious to see how it holds up for extended periods.

The visor slots into place nicely - there's a button on the right of the underside that you hold down in order to move the display towards or away from your face. On a practical level, it works in setting yourself up for the best possible immersion offered by the kit, and it doubles up as means by which you can temporarily move the display away to orientate yourself in the environment. [B][SIZE=4]We're also happy to report that Sony has solved the troublesome 'glasses issue' - as a wearer of spectacles myself, there were no problems whatsoever with the HMD clashing with my eyewear.[/SIZE][/B] Also worthy of note is that no form of calibration is required - once the visor is comfortably in place, everything just works[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][B][SIZE=4]As a taste of what is to come when Morpheus arrives as a retail product in the first half of 2016, the London Heist demo is mouthwatering[/SIZE][/B]. What we have here is a carefully crafted experience with full console-level production values, working in combination with highly impressive hardware. Sony has brought three more demos to GDC that we'll be sampling later in the week -[SIZE=4][B] including a full 120fps experience[/B][/SIZE] - and we can't wait to try them out.[/QUOTE]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-hands-on-with-the-near-final-project-morpheus

More at the link but they were very impressed by it.

 

[iYen]

 

Still using that Yoshida article. The system is exceeding expectations but if you think they didn't think it will sell well then you didn't follow last gen.

Still using that Yoshi article.

"As soon as we see a great sales number, our instinct tells us we should be concerned about future sales, right? Are we exhausting all the core gamers? If we sell this number of units, there are no more consumers we can sell to," Yoshida said. "That's a really terrifying prospect. So we want to understand who are these consumers who we do not necessarily consider core gamers, who are purchasing PS4 and why they are doing it and what they are doing with PS4, so we can create a bit more of a positive future, rather than saying, 'Wow, we have sold to every single core gamer.'"

I didn't follow last gen from 09-12.

Sony have Europe, Middle East and Japan on lock. Even if MS had launched the XBone as it is after the 180's and price drop, it would still be behind. It would only be competitive in the US and the UK.
PS3 turned around a 10 million deficit and that was with a high price, releasing late and being hard to develop for.

$ony's been in the console game longer, hence having those countries on lock. According to wiki, the 360 outsold ps3 by 2mil.

You just illustrated that $ony was the underdog for several years. m$ got arrogant hence their $500 tv/sports box. Now the shoe is on the other foot and m$ is making all the right moves. Thank you Phil Spencer and xbox team.

They fixed all that with the PS4 and went head to head with the Xbone. After the massacre at E3 and with the 4theplayers marketing slogan it was GG's.

Correct.

Even after the 180's only way the Xbone could beat the PS4 in their strongest market was to slash the price and bundle two games for the holidays but that didn't last long as PS4 retook the lead in Jan so no even the console MS has now isn't doing anything.

Did you forget the xb1 wasn't discounted for a week?

Like you stated, $ony's message was straight forward. Here's our console, it plays games.

m$'s message was arrogrant. Games? Fahget about it, tv/sports/kinect.

Had m$ stuck their message to strictly games like they are now, $ony's lead wouldn't be as it is now.

But let's not forget $ony NEEDS the ps brand to flourish given recent news.

m$ has $$$ to burn.

As for the heat.
Sony has more exclusives coming than MS. This quarter has been barren for MS while Sony had The Order, Bloodborne and MLB.

Spencer already stated the exclusives would be out holiday season and they might push them to next year.
The order was a flop.

Also coming out this year is:
Until Dawn
Uncharted 4
Tearaway Unfolded
Toukiden Kawami
Persona 5
Dragon Quest Heroes
Ratchet and Clank
Disgea 5
J Stars Victory Versus
One Piece Pirate Warriros

I keep up with ps news. Until dawn, UC4, tearaway, ratchet and clank, and jstars.

Maybe Persona 5.

I'll give you constant updates. MS are good at that but I dunno if that classify as heat and VERY open to feedback is heat

GWG, actual updates, bundles, and redirecting their vision.

That is being VERY open to feedback.

They are far in the lead because they reversed all what went wrong on the PS3 plus more in addition to MS dropping the ball.

I agree.

 
What good exclusives? I assume you aren't talking about anything recent? Sunset and Forza Horizon 2 came out 4 and 5 months ago. Am I missing something?

They have some nice little updates here and there but nothing imo that is must have.

Spencer already stated that the blockbuster exclusives will come during the holidays.

m$'s good exclusive output is higher than $ony's at this point.

Nintendo's good exclusive output is higher than m$/$ony, but that's a discussion for another time.

That's if we just focus on metacritic scores, which I personally don't care about.

But for discussion's sake, I'll look to those.

I actually do own an xbone but i also built a PC from the ground up for streaming purposes, on a side note if any NTers are interested in joining to pull a Twitch channel together send me a PM.

As far as exclusives, yes Forza is the top exclusive right now, the order had high expectations but bombed because of its weak game play. (Think of a pig coated in diamonds and gold). but when people say that Playstation doesnt have any games i would love to challenge that.

for someone to say there are "no games" is kind of ignorant considering that all major games coming out this year (batman, MGS, madden, witcher 3) are coming to both consoles. It really depends on what you play and who you play it with. Sony has been giving out free games since they announced PS+. I dont have a ps3 anymore, but i still have Bioshock, arkham city, ps all stars, yakuza 3, payday 2 still bought and saved on my PSN account because you will never know when you might want to play it.

When ppl say no games they're most likely referring to exclusives. Of course the ps4 has games, I'm already out of storage space on my ps4.

 
You'd swear there wasn't a Xbox One thread with the frequency it's talked about in here.

Thank @swendro88  

 

[shottadru]

 

You referring to Dark Souls? I heard those games are crazy difficult.

Do u have a ps3? Rent demons souls or dark souls if u can. They are great gamess but not for everyone

Got a fat boy, backwards compatiable...but it's broken. I played a little DS2 when it was games with gold. Hmmm...I might be interested, I know those games give a lot of hours of gameplay. Could be good when I give Borderlands a rest...thanks for the insight bro.

 

[D Double]

Still using that Yoshi article.
I didn't follow last gen from 09-12.
$ony's been in the console game longer, hence having those countries on lock. According to wiki, the 360 outsold ps3 by 2mil.
You just illustrated that $ony was the underdog for several years. m$ got arrogant hence their $500 tv/sports box. Now the shoe is on the other foot and m$ is making all the right moves. Thank you Phil Spencer and xbox team.

Nintendo's been in the game longer than Sony, why don't they have any countries on lock?
Sony wasn't the underdog, they were expected to carry on the success of the PS2 but blew it.
After 2009 though they started turning things around with the PS3 slim and Uncharted and their success in those markets I mentioned before helped.

All the changes MS have made isn't going to do nothing to change the sales gap. It's only going to get wider.
They threw the kitchen sink at their best market in the holidays but that only look liked it made a temporary change not a permanent one so far.

Correct.
Did you forget the xb1 wasn't discounted for a week?
Like you stated, $ony's message was straight forward. Here's our console, it plays games.
m$'s message was arrogrant. Games? Fahget about it, tv/sports/kinect.
Had m$ stuck their message to strictly games like they are now, $ony's lead wouldn't be as it is now.

Sony's lead won't be as much as it is now but they will still be in the lead because of they sell more everywhere else apart from the US and UK like blake said. MS dropping the ball allowed Sony to take more market share from the US and UK but at the end of the day.
Rest of the World is larger than those 2.

But let's not forget $ony NEEDS the ps brand to flourish given recent news.
m$ has $$$ to burn.
Spencer already stated the exclusives would be out holiday season and they might push them to next year.

So bringing the heat is leaving all exclusives till the holiday season and allowing the competition free reign till then.

The order was a flop.
I keep up with ps news. Until dawn, UC4, tearaway, ratchet and clank, and jstars. Maybe Persona 5.
GWG, actual updates, bundles, and redirecting their vision.
That is being VERY open to feedback.

What are the sales for The Order. I know it didn't do well critically but it's been topping the charts in Europe.
I'll wait for sales data before declaring it a flop.

I agree.
Spencer already stated that the blockbuster exclusives will come during the holidays.
m$'s good exclusive output is higher than $ony's at this point.
Nintendo's good exclusive output is higher than m$/$ony, but that's a discussion for another time.
That's if we just focus on metacritic scores, which I personally don't care about.
But for discussion's sake, I'll look to those.

What ouput. The last thing they released was in November and it's still buggy last I heard even though Metacritic gave it an 85 but what do I know.