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I'm just confused what exactly happened because Bran's eyes didn't "wog" (turn white) at the time Hodor "woke up" to hold the door. He was still wogging in the past. Jesus I don't know :rofl: I gotta rewatch the scene tonight.
 
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Damn damn damn

Episode was freakin lit all around

The play was hilarious even though somewhat cheesy
Struggle crown was struggle but the rituals they have are dope af
Sansa growing up and not being annoyingly naive
Theon getting somewhat of his confidence back
New red witch got varys and Tyrian shook for the first time ever
Simp finally confessing his love for khalesse
So much more damn. Sorry I barely watched it last night

Girl in the play though my gooood perfect
 
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The way I understand it is, when Bran uses the WeirLorean, he defies the Laws of Physics, Science, whatever. He may not be there physically but there is a part of him that is there. Because he's there in the astral plane or whatever the ****, when he wargs into Hodor in real time, he also wargs into Hodor across time. So, it's like he's there but not there. In the WeirLorean, he can interpret time differently than a regular person. So warging in the present means warging across time. That change is too much for a regular person to handle which is why Hodor went Full ******. Bran warging across time in a normal human being will cause disastrous consequences for the normal human being. Bran can do it because he's a warg and has the greenseeing ability but Hodor doesn't. This is also why in the books it's taboo for wargs to warg into other humans and it usually leads to terrible results.
 
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The way I understand it is, when Bran uses the WeirLorean, he defies the Laws of Physics, Science, whatever. He may not be there physically but there is a part of him that is there. Because he's there in the astral plane or whatever the ****, when he wargs into Hodor in real time, he also wargs into Hodor across time. So, it's like he's there but not there. In the WeirLorean, he can interpret time differently than a regular person. So warging in the present means warging across time. That change is too much for a regular person to handle which is why Hodor went Full ******. Bran warging across time in a normal human being will cause disastrous consequences for the normal human being. Bran can do it because he's a warg and has the greenseeing ability but Hodor doesn't. This is also why in the books it's taboo for wargs to warg into other humans and it usually leads to terrible results.

Makes sense.

Now I have a theory on how the Night King and the wights showed up right away. If Hodor knew his fate all along from Bran wogging him across time. Doesn't that imply that the Night King would know where Bran would be the whole time since they touched while Bran was wogging? In a closed loop, so it's not like Bran "messed up" by letting the Night King touch him and know where he was, but that was pre-destined and the 3ER foresaw and allowed it to happen. The Night King knew all along that they would meet at the Weirwood tree at this exact time possibly?
 
The way I understand it is, when Bran uses the WeirLorean, he defies the Laws of Physics, Science, whatever. He may not be there physically but there is a part of him that is there. Because he's there in the astral plane or whatever the ****, when he wargs into Hodor in real time, he also wargs into Hodor across time. So, it's like he's there but not there. In the WeirLorean, he can interpret time differently than a regular person. So warging in the present means warging across time. That change is too much for a regular person to handle which is why Hodor went Full ******. Bran warging across time in a normal human being will cause disastrous consequences for the normal human being. Bran can do it because he's a warg and has the greenseeing ability but Hodor doesn't. This is also why in the books it's taboo for wargs to warg into other humans and it usually leads to terrible results.

This, my friends, is about and complete and logical an explanation as you're going to get of a phenomenon that is completely fictional and has no basis in actual reality. I'm good rolling with this and not thinking about it further.
 
He said it to something like 15 dudes also. :lol: I'd take them a couple years just to make one :lol:

I'm trying to decide what was more delusional. Him thinking he could have a handful of people build 1000 ships or that he could sail over to Mareen and make Khalessi his girl. :lol:
 
The way I understand it is, when Bran uses the WeirLorean, he defies the Laws of Physics, Science, whatever. He may not be there physically but there is a part of him that is there. Because he's there in the astral plane or whatever the ****, when he wargs into Hodor in real time, he also wargs into Hodor across time. So, it's like he's there but not there. In the WeirLorean, he can interpret time differently than a regular person. So warging in the present means warging across time. That change is too much for a regular person to handle which is why Hodor went Full ******. Bran warging across time in a normal human being will cause disastrous consequences for the normal human being. Bran can do it because he's a warg and has the greenseeing ability but Hodor doesn't. This is also why in the books it's taboo for wargs to warg into other humans and it usually leads to terrible results.

Makes sense.

Now I have a theory on how the Night King and the wights showed up right away. If Hodor knew his fate all along from Bran wogging him across time. Doesn't that imply that the Night King would know where Bran would be the whole time since they touched while Bran was wogging? In a closed loop, so it's not like Bran "messed up" by letting the Night King touch him and know where he was, but that was pre-destined and the 3ER foresaw and allowed it to happen. The Night King knew all along that they would meet at the Weirwood tree at this exact time possibly?

Yup, this is exactly what I was saying earlier. Unlike what Terminator says in that you control you're own future, GoT is proving that there is no changing anything. Everything that happens is supposed to happen. No and's, if's, or but's about it.
 
For everyone hating on Sam you have to remember he's the one that gave Bran, the Reeds, Hodor and Summer the obsidian at the wall before they passed. Same obsidian that Meera prolly used to kill the white walker.
 
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I don't even know why Sam is getting hate. Dude has ian mcshane as a father and someone named dickon as a brother. I feel bad for him.
 
Yup.. sansa sending her off to get kilt..or littlefinger gonna find a way to kill her and lie to sansa and she'll believe it.
 
Here's a somewhat feasible theory on what happened to Hodor, with diagrams and **** [emoji]128517[/emoji]:

 
Euron was such a bad *** on the bridge with Balon. Euron at Kingsmoot kinda fell flat for me.
 
Yup.. sansa sending her off to get kilt..or littlefinger gonna find a way to kill her and lie to sansa and she'll believe it.
I felt like little finger is at a cross road. His character can go either way. Or will he do a good deed or two and then just be regular little finger
 
Here's a somewhat feasible theory on what happened to Hodor, with diagrams and **** [emoji]128517[/emoji]:



Makes sense.

This doesn't talk about how present Hodor started saying Hodor though.

Timeline A: Bran greensees into the past (timeline B). Does some joint warging with timeline A Hodor and timeline B Hodor., causing timeline-B Hodor to start saying that.

Timeline B (GoT show timeline): Hodor grows up meets Bran. **** happens and they end up with the 3ER. Bran greensees into timeline C. Does his thing with Timeline B Hodor and Timeline C Hodor

Timeline C: repeat

Everything just loops. Same applies to Timeline A - n. This is based on the casual loop paradox.
 
 
Yup.. sansa sending her off to get kilt..or littlefinger gonna find a way to kill her and lie to sansa and she'll believe it.
I felt like little finger is at a cross road. His character can go either way. Or will he do a good deed or two and then just be regular little finger
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