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[bamez]

Jaime is a great character in the show, dunno what Zik is talking about.  He's not all about laws, and oaths.  He said it to Catlyn while he was captured, protect the king, protect those who can't protect themselves.  What if the king asks to kill those who can't protect themselves.  The mad king told Jaime to bring him Tywin's head, and sent a guard to tell the pyromancer to burn the whole city..  Dunno about ya'll but he was right in killing that mfer.  

I do get where you're coming from tho, in the TV show he killed his own cousin while captive, in the book, the cousin comes along for the ride with Brianne and gets killed by those who cut Jaime's hand off.

He bangs Cersei the moment he sees her when he first gets to Kings Landing, and she wanted it too.

The show does a great job of making him a bad guy, but he's actually one the realest dudes in Westeros.

 

[rolaholic]

It's not that serious Zik ,I'm just disappointed that all the work they put into Jamie redeeming himself last season seems to have been flushed down the drain with what was initially meant to be a consensual act.

 

[lawdog1]

Jaime is a great character in the show, dunno what Zik is talking about.  He's not all about laws, and oaths.  He said it to Catlyn while he was captured, protect the king, protect those who can't protect themselves.  

How does tossing a defenseless kid out a window fit into that code?

 

[ssjjfar]

How does tossing a defenseless kid out a window fit into that code?

No one is trying to say it was a good thing to do. The fact is Cersei, Jamie, Joffrey, Tommen and the sister all would of been killed if Robert had found out. He was protecting his family. People need to stop acting like he did it just for fun and to be evil. It wasn't a good act, nor would he have wanted to do it randomly, but it all fits into his own code of protecting those he loves.

 

[herbshuttles15]

Jaime is a great character in the show, dunno what Zik is talking about.  He's not all about laws, and oaths.  He said it to Catlyn while he was captured, protect the king, protect those who can't protect themselves.  

How does tossing a defenseless kid out a window fit into that code?

That was ****** up but he actually was protecting his family


Cersei
Walder Frey
Bolton & his bastard are still worse imo

 

[Master Zik]

Um yeah y'all dudes talking about Jamie got done dirty are clowns. Son is a scumbag and is one of the worst characters in the show. Now everything is messed up cuz he's seen as a rapist to you. That just shows how touchy how y'all are given I don't like dude and want him dead and didn't interpret that scene as rape. If he did though so what. That aint outside of his wheelhouse. Keep thinking dude is gonna get some redemption arc for what he's done.


Hope George has one of the cruelest deaths in store for him.

You seem a bit upset Zik

Not really I just don't like Jamie Lannister (on the show or in the book). Same way I didn't like Joffrey. The show does invoke some emotions if you're in to it.

My thing is I've talked about wanting to see Jamie die before and ppl seem to really get hoodwinked last season with his story arc with Brienne like he is a nice guy or misunderstood or that he's learned his lesson and bad ways. No he's an a-hole like the rest. He should've got his severed hand shoved up his ***. So I'm over aghast at dudes actually rooting for this dude like 1st ep he aint push a child out a window and cripple him. Of all the foul **** I've seen on tv. Son just don't got any redeeming qualities for me to like compared to other bad guys I've rooted for on tv (Frank Underwood, Walter "H" White, etc.)

How does tossing a defenseless kid out a window fit into that code?

No one is trying to say it was a good thing to do. The fact is Cersei, Jamie, Joffrey, Tommen and the sister all would of been killed if Robert had found out. He was protecting his family. People need to stop acting like he did it just for fun and to be evil. It wasn't a good act, nor would he have wanted to do it randomly, but it all fits into his own code of protecting those he loves.

Fam, I don't care what you say there is no rationalization or justifying what he did. Protect his family my ***. He did something wrong to cover up something else that was wrong.

 

[lawdog1]

Bolton & his bastard are still worse imo

I agree with this. With Joff gone, Ramsay is definitely the worst character currently on the show.

 

[Master Zik]

It's not that serious Zik ,I'm just disappointed that all the work they put into Jamie redeeming himself last season seems to have been flushed down the drain with what was initially meant to be a consensual act.

Yeah it's not that serious, I'm not out here boycotting the character or something.

I just look forward to his death. There's some things fans of the show can overlook and some things others can't. I aint rooting for dude at all or even really like him.

Yeah he spared Brienne from being raped and did the right thing with the crazy ol Targareyn king but all of your actions reflect who you are.

The incest aint even a main contention to hate dude but I will say how it's depicted will change pp.'s views. If you watch The Borgias, you can see how the relationship and incest with the brother and sister on that show is really different than how it is in GoT despite them being in similar situations.

 

[herbshuttles15]

Bolton & his bastard are still worse imo

I agree with this. With Joff gone, Ramsay is definitely the worst character currently on the show.

The show doesn't really show ****** up he is

 

[ssjjfar]

Fam, I don't care what you say there is no rationalization or justifying what he did. Protect his family my ***. He did something wrong to cover up something else that was wrong.

Explaining =/= rationalizing or justifying. And yes when I say "not good" it is the same thing as it's wrong.

Someone asked how it fit to his "code", and its pretty simple.

 

[Master Zik]

Fam, I don't care what you say there is no rationalization or justifying what he did. Protect his family my ***. He did something wrong to cover up something else that was wrong.

Explaining =/= rationalizing or justifying. And yes when I say "not good" it is the same thing as it's wrong.

Someone asked how it fit to his "code", and its pretty simple.

**** his code.

Jaime is a great character in the show, dunno what Zik is talking about.  He's not all about laws, and oaths.  He said it to Catlyn while he was captured, protect the king, protect those who can't protect themselves.  

How does tossing a defenseless kid out a window fit into that code?

That was ****** up but he actually was protecting his family


Cersei
Walder Frey
Bolton & his bastard are still worse imo

To me Cersei is just an extension of the entire Lannister fam. Only Tyrion seems to be an exception.

Frey will get his but to me he did what he did based off of being wronged in the past and to survive. Bolton and his bastard are sick ***** definitely but luckily Ramsey tortured and maimed a traitor so I don't feel that bad about the situation. Hunting innocents and **** is messed up but I dunno I'll wait to he try to pull that **** with a character I care about. That other stuff just seems to be displays of cruelty to get across how Ramsey and the Bolton's get down.

 

[hybridsoldier23]

There's only two clean characters in the entire series. Brienne and Davos. I might let people include Jon but I would personally disagree.

Everyone else is a liar, murderer, oath-breaker, adulterer, or generally ****** human being.

That being said I root for Arya, Melisandre, and Jaime.

 

[herbshuttles15]

Cersei is the, killed a king and more notable people, she is whole reason for this war, ***** her brother, and she's just getting started.

 

[ssjjfar]

There's only two clean characters in the entire series. Brienne and Davos. I might let people include Jon but I would personally disagree.

Everyone else is a liar, murderer, oath-breaker, adulterer, or generally ****** human being.

What about Rickon?!?!!?!!?


But yeah I agree with almost everyone being dirty. Too long of a list. People upset Jamie tried to pushed a 10 year old kid to his death, King Rob had 10 month old babies slaughtered.

 

[bombbiggidyphil]

I can see why people are upset about it, but it's for the better imo. Yeah, it stalls his 'redemption', but it makes him more complex of a character. I don't think it's as simple as the man is an *******. The man is an emotional wreck. Lost his sword hand, lost his son and so failed his king, Cersei snubs him constantly...nothing's right. He broke. Like he said, "I don't care." Makes for a deeper narrative...not just another run-of-the-mill redemption arc.

 

[bamez]

Incest, you can't choose who you love.  And you'd do anything for the ones you love.

 

[HankHill]

There's only two clean characters in the entire series. Brienne and Davos. I might let people include Jon but I would personally disagree.

Everyone else is a liar, murderer, oath-breaker, adulterer, or generally ****** human being.

That being said I root for Arya, Melisandre, and Jaime.

Davos was a smuggler and pirate before joining Stannis though. Pretty sure he's not clean.

 

[herbshuttles15]

There's only two clean characters in the entire series. Brienne and Davos. I might let people include Jon but I would personally disagree.

Everyone else is a liar, murderer, oath-breaker, adulterer, or generally ****** human being.

That being said I root for Arya, Melisandre, and Jaime.

Brienne as much of murderer as Arya.

Davos is a former smuggler and cost hundreds if not thousands of people lives at the Blackwater.

 

[GL Rayner]

Cersei is the, killed a king and more notable people, she is whole reason for this war, ***** her brother, and she's just getting started.

No hate for Littlefinger ?

 

[herbshuttles15]

Cersei is the, killed a king and more notable people, she is whole reason for this war, ***** her brother, and she's just getting started.

No hate for Littlefinger ?

Forgot about him, I don't hate any characters besides the Freys & a lot of the Greyjoys

Cersei Jaime, etc... are a necessary evil imo

 

[hybridsoldier23]

There's only two clean characters in the entire series. Brienne and Davos. I might let people include Jon but I would personally disagree.

Everyone else is a liar, murderer, oath-breaker, adulterer, or generally ****** human being.

That being said I root for Arya, Melisandre, and Jaime.

Brienne as much of murderer as Arya.

Davos is a former smuggler and cost hundreds if not thousands of people lives at the Blackwater.

I'll give you Davos being a smuggler. I'm wrong about him being clean.

Who did Brienne murder?

 

[lawdog1]

Not to derail, but who are those cannibal dudes that are with the Wildlings? I most of somehow missed when they got introduced in the show.

 

[hybridsoldier23]

Not to derail, but who are those cannibal dudes that are with the Wildlings? I most of somehow missed when they got introduced in the show.

They're another tribe of people beyond the wall called the Thenns

 

[blacklion23]

I hate Littlefinger. Spent the weekend watching season 1. Him putting the knife to Ned's neck, telling Ned he shouldn't have trusted him, reminded me how much I hated him.

 

[lawdog1]

They're another tribe of people beyond the wall called the Thenns

Thanks.