The NBA Stats Thread: The 15-year chain reaction that led to the NBA's current offensive explosion

Sad, really. The Miami Heat's rise and fall was around the time Twitter really took off. The parodies and mob mentality were rampant, and heavily populated by journalists as well as fans. Pretty discouraging.
 
90% of the teams in the NBA are looking for a who can do one of: protect the rim, give you high end pick and roll D and elite shooting.

Chris Bosh gives you all 3, plus elite post scoring. :x :smokin

I mean Chris Bosh would instantly solve the Clippers problems if you moved him into Deandre sport.

If he took the Houston deal aren't the Rockets the favourites in the the west?

As much as we love Zbo, Chris Bosh would make them the favourties.


He gives you so many premium skills in one player.
 
This summer, the Minnesota Timberwolves hired former NBAer Mike Penberthy as a shooting coach primarily to help improve Ricky Rubio's jump shot. Before Saturday's game against the Heat, Penberthy casually took the floor after his team had finished warm ups and got some shots up. I've never seen anything like it. He's a machine. Not exaggerating, Penberthy must have hit 30 3-pointers in a row without any touching the rim. He made 10 in the right corner, then 10 on the right wing, then 10 at the top of the key. On his first try from the left wing from 3-point land, he missed. He laughed it off. Here's what Penberthy did next, just for good measure: he made the next 10 -- banking it off the backboard.

:pimp:


If he took the Houston deal aren't the Rockets the favourites in the the west?

Without question.
 
Replacing Zbo wtih Bosh would instantly make Grizz a sure contender. He would give us a true #1 scoring option and would provide more spacing. I think he would make our offense top 10, while maintaining the elite 3 defensive ranking. :x
 
NylonCalculus:
Nylon Notebook: The Sacramento Kings and their Fast-Paced D-League Affiliate are the Talk of Basketball

The Sacramento Kings, the team with the NBA’s second-longest active playoff drought, are the biggest surprise of this young season. Few could have seen it coming.

This offseason was an odd and much-criticized one for the Kings and their fanbase. For starters, there was that quirky Draft 3.0 crowd-sourcing analytics experiment, which Grantland later produced for a mini feature. The inside view actually painted a negative picture of the organization in my mind, however. It seemed like Sacramento had no knowledge of modern basketball stats and how to incorporate them effectively. It seemed like a desperate plea for attention. It wasn’t a good look.

The biggest news of the Kings offseason, unfortunately, was then the departure of diminutive star Isaiah Thomas to the Phoenix Suns. But before that restricted free agent situation even got handled, the Kings had already tabbed perennially underachieving Darren Collison as his replacement.

Those back-to-back moves were as confusing as any in a long time. Did the Kings not see any value in Thomas, who just averaged 20.3 points and 6.3 assists at age 24? Why Collison, who shined in spurts for the Clippers, but had seemed to regress over the years?! It was certainly very head scratching. Was there a plan?

They only otherwise added a hilarious Big Three 1 of Ryan Hollins, Omri Casspi and Ramon Sessions in free agency. Rookie Nik Stauskas was a fun-ish draft selection, but his immediate contributions seemed limited. Analytics punch bag Rudy Gay 2 exercised his $19.3 million option, as expected. Carl Landry was set to make a comeback.

The rehashing of all of those events just makes Sacramento’s impressive 5-3 start even more unbelievable. Yes, their innovative owner Vivek Ranadive intriguingly managed to poach analytics legend Dean Oliver from ESPN to shore up those numbers issues. But what in the world is occurring on the basketball court right now? Let’s look quickly at Oliver’s own Four Factors for some insight.

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Here are the top three reasons I’ll cite for Sacramento’s shocking start:

1) Michael Malone’s defense is working – For years, the Kings have been no better than paupers on defense. They’ve been below average, per Basketball-Reference, for each of the seven years of their playoff drought. So far this year? Things are quite encouraging, with the Kings cracking on the doorsteps of the top-10 in defensive efficiency. Malone had worked under Mike Brown in Cleveland for many years, so he came highly regarded in terms of his defensive backing. Collison’s length and other internal improvements have helped them make tremendous strides here.

2) They’re getting to the line at a historic rate – How does a team produce average offense efficiency in 2014 while shooting just 30% from three-point range? Free throws. All of the free throws. The three-point era record for Free Throw Rate 3 is 0.433 by the 1997-98 Utah Jazz. The Kings are at 0.467 right now. Gay and Collison are drawing fouls way in excess of career rates. But the biggest factor is the team’s biggest star…

3) DeMarcus Cousins is getting better and better – And he’s only 24 years old. He’s averaging his usual 22-11 with nice helpings of assists, steals and blocks. But he’s just doing it in a much more controlled, effective way. He’s helping the Kings be the NBA’s second-best rebounding margin team. He’s emerging into a very strong team defender. He held back his coach from a tirade recently. As much as we’re salivating over Anthony Davis’ long-term potential, Cousins is likely the better all-around player right now.

Tom Ziller said the Kings could be this year’s Suns. Andrew Sharp declared them as America’s Team. So far, it is the season of the Kings, and they certainly would’ve gotten much more buzz if they held onto Tuesday night’s 20-point lead against the Dallas Mavericks.

But here we are. Sacramento is finally looking like they’ll win more than 28 games for the first time in seven years. They could hover around 0.500 for good.
Click this link to read about the Kings D-League team. Crazy stuff.
 
Penberthy is a shooting coach ... a shooting coach... and the Minnesota in me is already coping with him leaving.

In a land where you're 0 of 4 in Super Bowls, 0 of 10 in NBA playoff appearances since the 2004 and 0 of 12 in MLB playoff games since 2004 ALDS Game 1 YOU TAKE ON SORT OF A "WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO SCREW THIS UP" MENTALITY.

Minnesota's a mental health facility, I will be the only one not fooled.
 
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Who ae the Spurs shooting coaches, they move in silence because I never heard of them, and somehow everyone learns to shoot 38% from the corner 3.
 
Kind of related to what OKB was talking about via Pelton:
The new breed of NBA big men

The idea of categorizing the NBA's big men by their skills began, as so many brilliant breakthroughs do, in Las Vegas. As the Insider hoops team watched marathon summer league sessions, doubled down on every 11 and even enjoyed a Sim Bhullar-sized cut of meat, the conversation often drifted to the brilliance and versatility of budding superstar Anthony Davis of the New Orleans Pelicans. It seemed to us that Davis appeared capable of fulfilling every responsibility entrusted to a modern big man. And, in an age of increasing specialization, those roles are diverse and plentiful.

So that got us thinking about the league as a whole and the universe of big men. How many different skills could we dissect? Which players were the most versatile? Which jobs were the most important? With those questions in mind, we launched our study. We first settled upon eight jobs for big men, four at each end of the court. After coming up with statistical criteria to objectively place post players in each category (they had to rank in the top quartile of players who saw at least 1,000 minutes of action last season), we used lineup data from NBA.com/Stats to determine the performance of lineups with and without each skill.

The result is a reasonably comprehensive taxonomy of the NBA's power forwards and centers (97 of them), along with new insight on the importance of their varied roles. (And another testament to the creative magnificence of Vegas.) Check out the chart at the bottom of the story to see every post player who qualified.

Note: The chart is not a ranking, but rather a grid showing into which categories every post player (who qualified for the study) fit.

Facilitators

Measured by: Assist rate and elbow touches per game (via NBA.com/Stats)
Examples: Marc Gasol, Joakim Noah, Josh McRoberts

You know those bigs who catch the ball at the elbow, wheel on their pivot foot and find a cutter off a gorgeous, backdoor pass? Those are facilitators, and their presence in the NBA is growing. Last season, five big men (Noah, Kevin Love, McRoberts, Blake Griffin and Marc Gasol) averaged at least 3.5 apg, as their teams counted on them to initiate much of the offense. Those are the high-profile facilitators, but by combining assist rate with elbow touches -- one of the new statistical gems that SportVU's player tracking data has produced -- we uncovered several more.

Sure enough, playing a big man who can pass tends to improve a team's offense. Lineups featuring at least one facilitator posted a 108.7 offensive rating, compared with 107.9 when that player was off the court. And their teams were better defensively, too, giving up 1.1 fewer points per 100 possessions with that facilitator on the floor. The fact that some of the league's best defensive bigs, starting with Noah and Marc Gasol, fall into this category certainly helps explain the results on that end of the floor. But the offensive influence is legit (lineups with facilitators assisted on 60.3 percent of their field goals, as compared with 57.8 percent for all others), and there's no question that the success of these elbow-based operators is clearing the way for future generations of big men with a soft touch.

Finishers

Measured by: Field goal percentage within 3 feet (via Basketball-Reference.com)
Examples: Chris Andersen, Blake Griffin, Brandan Wright

Scoring around the basket is seemingly the simplest skill for big men, but when it comes to finishing, they're not all created equal. Some players (such as Wright) utilize soft touch to score over equally large defenders, while others (such as Griffin and teammate DeAndre Jordan) are able to finish through them with a powerful dunk. One or the other is crucial for pick-and-roll basketball, which has become the default offense for modern NBA teams.

Lo and behold, finishers have more positive impact on their teams' offenses than any other offensive category. Lineups with at least one finisher on the floor averaged 110.5 points per 100 possessions last season, as compared with a 107.4 offensive rating for all others, while improving 2-point percentages from .481 to .507. So if someone describes a big man as "just a dunker," that might not be an insult.

Post scorers

Measured by: Points scored on post-ups per 36 minutes (via Synergy Sports)
Examples: Nikola Pekovic, Al Jefferson, Zach Randolph

There is no more enduring image than this one: Big man posts up. Big man receives pass with his back to the basket. Big man executes a move and scores. And although the NBA grows more consumed with the pick-and-roll and the corner 3 with each passing season, this species of big will never disappear. In fact, teams should still covet these guys.

Last season, teams with a post scorer put up a 109.4 offensive rating, the best of any of the eight archetypes. That output dropped to 107.7 with the post scorer off the floor. That group includes some of the best, most versatile bigs in the league (Davis, Love, Dwight Howard, Dirk Nowitzki), so it's little surprise that they also made an impact on defense (107.2 defensive rating on the court, 108.5 off the floor). Post play might be on the decline, but that's just because skilled, back-to-the-basket scorers are hard to find. If you've got one, you're in good shape.

Stretch bigs

Measured by: Shots from beyond 15 feet per 36 minutes (via Basketball-Reference.com)
Examples: LaMarcus Aldridge, Ryan Anderson, Dirk Nowitzki

No skill for big men is more in vogue than the ability to space the floor with outside shooting. The stretch 4 is the new hotness in the NBA, which makes it surprising that statistically, this skill grades out as something of a wash. Players we categorized as stretch bigs saw their teams perform 0.8 points per 100 possessions better on offense, as expected, but not as much as finishers or post scorers, and gave up that value on the defensive end of the floor.

One difficulty with defining stretch bigs is figuring out how to factor players such as Aldridge and Jason Smith, who specialize in long, 2-point jumpers. We settled for including them, but using 3-point attempts per 36 minutes yields a slightly different list. That stricter definition of stretch bigs yields more offensive improvement ... but also more defensive decline. Bigs who shoot 3s still rate as a net neutral. So it's worth asking whether we've overrated the value of shooting for big men.

Mobile defenders

Measured by: Points per play against pick-and-roll (via Synergy) and steal rate
Examples: Chris Bosh, Draymond Green, Anderson Varejao

The NBA is a pick-and-roll league, and stopping that play has become the top priority of a defensive game plan. And nothing makes that task easier for a coach than being able to utilize a versatile, athletic big man. These guys excel at showing and recovering against ball screens, enabling them to cut off a point guard's path to the basket while still keeping track of their own man. Mobile bigs are also the guys you want chasing stretch 4s off the arc, and they use their quickness to deflect entry passes to force steals.

Our study paints a less-than-flattering picture of their impact, though. While the presence of a mobile big does marginally improve a team's defense (from 108.3 points per 100 possessions off the floor to 107.7 on it), they seriously injure the offense (minus-1.3 net points per 100 possessions). Their 107.1 offensive rating is also the lowest of any of the eight archetypes and leads to several questions. Chief among them: Have coaches gone too far in valuing speed over size? And, outside of a pure shot-blocker, does it really make sense to utilize a defensive specialist, given the other sacrifices involved?

Post defenders

Measured by: Points per play against on post-ups (via Synergy Sports)
Examples: Omer Asik, Kendrick Perkins, Tiago Splitter

As long as post play remains a part of offenses, there will be a need for post defense. The ability to counter opposing behemoths in the block is a large part of why Perkins remained a starter through last season and the Collins twins (Jarron and Jason) played a combined 23 years in the NBA.

Surprisingly, the numbers suggest that post defense is still a crucial skill. Lineups with at least one post defender allowed 0.7 fewer points per 100 possessions and were more effective at the offensive end -- possibly because of the overlap between good post defenders and good post scorers. Howard, Jefferson and Love were some of the stars who qualified for both categories.

Rebounders

Measured by: Defensive rebound percentage
Examples: DeMarcus Cousins, Reggie Evans, J.J. Hickson

As the name suggests, these guys are entrusted with one job on defense: Finish a stop by securing the board. Sure, plenty of top bigs combine strong defensive rebounding with other skills, from shot-blocking to post D, but there are also plenty of one-trick ponies in this group, too, such as Evans and Hickson.

It shouldn't be a surprise that the impact of rebounders is minimal. After all, they don't make the play on defense. They finish it. And even the most skilled rebounder can't compel a missed shot to bounce his way. The stats showed that rebound specialists improved a team's defense by only 0.2 points per 100 possessions; their impact on offense was nearly identical (0.3 points per 100 possessions). Even worse, lineups with rebounders were only marginally better on the defensive glass at the team level, improving their rate from 74.5 percent of available defensive boards to 75.0 percent. Rebounds are important, but forcing a missed shot in the first place matters more.

Rim protectors

Measured by: Combination of block rate and opponent field goal percentage at the rim (via NBA.com/Stats)
Examples: Roy Hibbert, Serge Ibaka, Larry Sanders

With improved floor spacing and the rules interpretation limiting contact on the perimeter making it easier for guards to drive the paint, it's never been more crucial to have a 7-footer in the paint capable of protecting the rim like a goalie. By giving us new ways to measure rim protection beyond merely the occasionally misleading block statistic, SportVU player tracking has enhanced the visibility of these players.

The lineup numbers back up the value of rim protection. Lineups with at least one protector are far stingier, allowing 2.5 fewer points per 100 possessions than all other lineups. As expected, these lineups cut down dramatically on opponent 2-point percentage (.472 vs. .491). So while rim protectors have a slightly negative offensive effect, they still rank as the most valuable defensive category.

Illustrated Big Man Archetypes
 
Goldsberry:
What Do We See in Rajon Rondo?

As Rajon Rondo entered a practice facility conference room, a Celtics employee handed him a new green hoodie. The room was chilly. It was late September, the end of media day, and Rondo was dressed in his full home uniform, but his left arm hung in a big black sling. He settled into a rolling chair, under a whiteboard on which was written a bulleted list of the team’s offensive priorities “while R.R. is out.” He put the sweatshirt on over his shoulders and wore it like a hooded cape.

“You look like Muhammad Ali,” his publicist joked.

“I don’t wanna talk about boxing right now.”

Rondo was just three days removed from a surgery to repair his “boxer’s fracture” — a broken metacarpal bone in his left hand. He had sustained the injury when he reportedly slipped in his shower, a week prior. He had spent much of media day talking about it.

“Showers … you gotta take ’em,” he said, as he turned to face me. Despite his being expected to miss the next six to eight weeks, his sense of humor was intact. You need one of those if you’re going to survive as one of Boston’s star athletes. And you especially need it if you’re Rondo. If there’s any player who has come to personify the way many of us talk about NBA players as assets, it’s the eight-year Celtics veteran. He lives on the trading block. And his value as a player is one of the most divisive topics in NBA analysis right now.

About an hour earlier, as I drove the Mass Pike west to Waltham, I caught a segment of Felger and Mazz, the drive-time town criers of Boston sports radio. They were taking turns doubting the shower story, mongering a trampoline rumor, disparaging Rondo’s jumper, and remarking on just how low his trade value is right now.

Rondo’s value is difficult to quantify, in part because he doesn’t fit into our established taxonomy of NBA superstars. He amplifies the goodness around him, but he can’t create it. When we question Rondo’s value, we are actually talking about the value of a pass-first point guard in today’s NBA. The league’s most valuable assets are almost all dominant scorers — everything else they provide is gravy. But Rondo inverts that. He provides assists, defense, rebounds, and only occasional scoring prowess. He’s at his best when he is playmaking for his teammates, but his All-Star years all involved a Hall of Fame supporting cast. The hard part is determining his value when paired with less talented colleagues.

Rondo and his hand would recover quicker than expected. He was healed up not only in time to begin his eighth NBA season, but to play the protagonist in one of its most compelling story lines. He again finds himself one of the league’s most talked-about trade chips, as well as one of its biggest free agents next summer. He is a wanted man.

As a person, Rondo is hard to know. As a potential roster asset, he’s impossible to measure. Is he one of the best point guards in the NBA, or is he just an occasional genius with a crooked jumper?

Conventional wisdom says Rondo can’t shoot. But sometimes, players change faster than their reputations do. Such is the case with Rondo. His jump shot has come a long way, even if it still gets a bad rap. There was a time when Rondo didn’t have a midrange game. But just as LeBron James evolved to dominate the left block, Rondo has developed a decent jumper.

According to Rondo, that perception that he can’t shoot follows him wherever he goes. “I’ve heard that like 10,000 times,” he said. “But it doesn’t bother me. I know what I bring to the game. Shooting is obviously not the strongest part of my game, but I believe I can shoot the ball.”

In 2014, no player, save maybe Russell Westbrook, makes us contemplate basketball virtue more than Rondo. Both guys are divisive; both play the game on their own terms, and both madden their detractors and delight their fans on a nightly basis. Rondo is a great basketball player, but his greatness depends a lot on his environment.

From talk radio to the spreadsheet, context remains largely unheeded in basketball analysis. You can look at Rondo’s career and see the passed-up shots for padded assist tallies and roll your eyes. Or you can read it more like a three-act play. In the first act, the misfit rookie struggled to fit in among an uneven roster. In the second, he suddenly became the NBA’s enigmatic savant, the champion, and the four-time All-Star point god. In Act 3, the hero finds himself onstage with understudies — his star has diminished. How and where will this act end?

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The Celtics acquired Rondo’s draft rights from the Suns after Phoenix selected him with the 21st pick of the 2006 NBA draft.





Already on draft night, Rondo had a reputation. Immediately after the pick came in, commentators Dan Patrick and Jay Bilas perfectly captured that.


Patrick: Well, we’ve had our first point guard selected, a sophomore guard from Kentucky, not a great shooter.

Bilas: Super run-and-jump athlete. He’s got long arms. He’s got huge hands. I think one of the best perimeter defenders in this draft. He can stay in front of just about anybody. He can handle it. He can get to the rim and finish there. He’s an outstanding guard-rebounder, but you identified it, Dan, the problem is he can’t shoot it at all. Teams in the Southeastern Conference didn’t even guard him.

Rondo played his first NBA game four months after draft day. He does not romanticize that first league campaign: “It was a season not to remember.”

Rondo joined an uneven Celtics roster that included Paul Pierce, Al Jefferson, and a host of raw youngsters like Gerald Green and Sebastian Telfair. A few days before the season began, Red Auerbach died, and a cloud hung over the team, giving the season a weird and uneven energy. Pierce got hurt, and the team fell off a cliff. At one point, it went on the worst losing streak in Celtics history.

“It was brutal. To lose 18 in a row was crazy. We were on SportsCenter every other day for the wrong reasons,” said Rondo, remembering his rookie season. “I’d think I’d play great one night, then not play at all the next night. It was kind of hard to gauge where I fit in.”

As a rookie, eager to fit in and earn playing time, Rondo became so afraid to screw up, he almost never shot jumpers. “When you take a shot as a rookie, if you don’t make it, that might be your last shot. If you make the shot, you’re good; if you don’t, you’re coming out.”

By the end of the season, this kind of thinking caused Rondo to have the weirdest shot chart of any guard in the league. More than 70 percent of his shots came in the paint — a normal number for someone like Kendrick Perkins, but unprecedented for an NBA point guard. He was strangely inactive around the elbows, an area where the league’s best floor generals typically flourish. This behavior only fueled the idea that he couldn’t shoot.

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It was probably more accurate to say he wouldn’t shoot. At least in that rookie year, Rondo’s lack of jump-shooting production was tied more to skittish behavior than to inability. Regardless, Rondo’s wacky rookie tendencies only helped solidify his draft-day reputation as a pass-first point guard with limited scoring potential. By the summer of 2007, he was just another forgettable youthful outcast on one of the worst teams in the NBA.

Then, one day, the Celtics traded Wally Szczerbiak, and everything changed.

They also traded Delonte West and the draft rights to Jeff Green, and in return received Ray Allen from Seattle. A few days later they sent Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff’s expiring contract, Gerald Green, Telfair, Ryan Gomes, two first-round picks, and cash considerations to Minnesota in exchange for Kevin Garnett. Almost all the guys Rondo grew to know in that rookie campaign were gone, replaced by superstars determined to win titles.

Suddenly the team was on SportsCenter for all the right reasons. Just four months after that horrible losing streak, the Celtics mystique was abruptly back, and the young point guard was squarely in the middle of it.

Rondo began his second season in a familiar uniform but on an entirely different team. Playing alongside “The Big Three” provided Rondo with little incentive to change those pass-first tendencies. His jobs were to distribute and defend, and he performed both tasks well. He fit in.

It’s funny how much easier it is to fit in when you’re surrounded by greatness.

That 2007-08 Celtics team had the best single-season turnaround in NBA history. Toward the end of that season, Rondo started to exhibit signs of brilliance. By the time the team reached the Finals, there were more indications of his on-court genius. His 16 assists in Game 2 were the most in a Finals game since Magic Johnson dished 20 in 1991.

On June 17, 2008, the Celtics torched the Lakers to win the NBA Finals in six games. At 22, the kid from Louisville who “couldn’t shoot it” was a key piece of the best team in the NBA. But buried beneath the Ubuntu, and the green-and-white confetti, was Rondo’s greatly improved jumper. He hadn’t morphed into Allen, but he converted his shots at above-average rates. Despite his development, the can’t-shoot reputation persisted through the rest of the Ubuntu era. It lingers today among both fans and opponents who insisted on going under screens, sagging off of him, and almost daring him to shoot the ball.

For Rondo, those tactics are a kind of compliment. “It’s a free shot,” he has said. “I think I’ll always have the ‘make him shoot’ reputation, but that’s more because if you don’t do that, it’s really a problem.” Rondo believes that he doesn’t just get those free shots because of his poor shooting reputation, but because of his reputation as an attacker. After all, he’s one of the league’s best playmaking guards in the paint, both as a scorer and as a distributor.

Maybe he gets free shots in the midrange because people underestimate his shooting prowess. Maybe he gets them because defenders are afraid of his interior playmaking — it’s probably both. It really doesn’t matter why some teams sag and others don’t. He knows that his job is to read and react: “It doesn’t make a difference to me whether guys go over or under screens. I just have to take the shot I get, step into it, and take it with confidence.”

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Rondo’s real breakout occurred in the 2010 Eastern Conference semifinals. LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers entered the series as the no. 1 seed, but Rondo looked like the best player on the floor for much of the clash. In Game 1, he put up 27 points and 12 assists in a losing cause. In Game 2, his 19 assists helped Boston steal home court. He saved his real masterpiece for Game 4. Down 2-1 in the series, the Celtics were at home and desperate for a win. Rondo turned in a career performance, scoring 29, with 18 rebounds and 13 assists. The Celtics won the game, went on to win the series, and the Big Three officially became the Big Four.

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The 2009-10 Celtics came incredibly close to winning the title. After taking a 3-2 advantage back to Los Angeles, Kendrick Perkins blew out his knee, and the team lost two in a row. The Big Four would never return to the Finals. It was a blow for the franchise, but all the big-time experience seemed to boost Rondo’s confidence. His game hit another gear during the first few months of the 2012-13 season — he had become a truly great point guard, blending his passing, his rim attacks, and a suddenly strong midrange game. Gone was the timid rookie afraid to take elbow jumpers — now he was one of the most reliable elbow shooters in the entire league.

Out of 145 players who took at least 100 shots from the areas around the elbows during the 2012-13 regular season, Rondo ranked third in efficiency, trailing only Steve Nash and Jason Smith. The league shoots 39.6 percent around the elbows, but Rondo converted 50.4 percent of his attempts in that area. It looked like Rondo had finally slayed the he-can’t-shoot beast; Synergy Sports, the independent video tracking service, went as far as assigning him a “very good” rating for shots off the dribble, and an “excellent” rating for long 2-point jumpers.

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In a cruel twist, Rondo tore his ACL in late January. It was clear the graying Big Three were not really a threat without their floor general. On May 3, the Knicks eliminated the Celtics from the first round of the playoffs. Two months later, Boston traded Garnett and Pierce to Brooklyn. It was the end of an era, and once Rondo’s knee healed, he would again find himself on a youthful and rebuilding Boston roster.

When Rondo was finally able to play again in January 2014, he wasn’t the same. He didn’t trust his surgically rebuilt knee, and this made him passive on the floor. “I wasn’t confident in going to the hole a lot because of my knee. I couldn’t get past guys like I was used to,” Rondo said. “My first step wasn’t as quick when I came back with that big brace I had, so I shot the 3 a lot.”

Before his knee injury in the 2012-13 season, just 11 percent of Rondo’s field goal attempts came from 3-point range. During his knee-braced 2013-14 season, that number jumped to 25 percent. This damaged his overall effectiveness. Rondo has never been a long-distance caller, so last season’s outward migration highlighted the weakest part of his shooting portfolio. Furthermore, it kept him from making plays for his teammates.

Coming into this season, the clunky brace is gone, and Rondo thinks his knee feels much stronger. “I think I’ll take more selective 3s, I’m gonna try to attack the rim more,” he said. This is his first full season without Pierce and Garnett since his rookie year. “My role has changed here in Boston. I don’t play with the Big Three anymore, so I’ll be creating my shot a whole lot more. I’ll be taking that midrange shot a lot more.”

Through the first two weeks, his 3-point infatuation appears to be over, and he’s put up big numbers that seem to suggest his aggressiveness is back in place. Last night, he registered 20 points, nine rebounds, and 12 assists in a loss to the Thunder.

It remains to be seen just how far Rondo can “carry” the Celtics. Although he’s a great playmaker, a strong rebounder, and an improved scorer, he’s still a pass-first point guard. And, to be blunt, he doesn’t have much to pass to. Boston might make the playoffs. It might not. If it doesn’t, is that Rajon Rondo’s fault?

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so what is he then?
C CP1708 went to war in the NBA Discussion Thread over the third best player in the NBA after LeBron and Durant. He said Davis, many disagreed. I myself even promoted Russy before AD.

Yep, its crazy at the amount of disrespect Bosh got over the last 4 seasons.
Beyond basketball criticism, media members like Skip Bayless questioning his manhood and intensity were wrong. "Bosh Spice" nicknames also uncalled for. Happy to see Bosh prosper post-LeBron.
 
AD, currently:


25 / 13 / 2 / 4.5 blk / 2.3 stl / on 55% in 37 minutes a game, PER of 35.33

He's 21.

I guess I was wrong about him being the 3rd best.

Might need to bump him up a couple slots. :lol: :pimp:
 
AD, currently:


25 / 13 / 2 / 4.5 blk / 2.3 stl / on 55% in 37 minutes a game, PER of 35.33

He's 21.

I guess I was wrong about him being the 3rd best.

Might need to bump him up a couple slots. :lol: :pimp:

Wow.

KG in 03-04 was 24 / 14 / 5 / 2.2 bpg /1.5 spg on 50% in 39mpg, PER of 29.4

KG was the first person I thought of when seeing AD's numbers, but AD's bpg is another level :x .
 
Omer Asik's presence is inflating the hell out of AD's block numbers. Not that AD's shot blocking ability isn't elite, but yea. He has some help this year
 
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Omer Asik's presence is inflating the hell out of AD's block numbers. Not that AD's shot blocking ability isn't elite, but yea. He has some help this year
Eh, I'm not buying that this "inflates" his numbers. 

And CP was right, I thought that AD could get to top 3, but didn't think he was Top 3 coming into the year. Pretty fascinating year he's having so far. Wonder how many games he would need to win in order to get the MVP if he kept this play up?
 
Eh, I'm not buying that this "inflates" his numbers. 

And CP was right, I thought that AD could get to top 3, but didn't think he was Top 3 coming into the year. Pretty fascinating year he's having so far. Wonder how many games he would need to win in order to get the MVP if he kept this play up?

As of now, I think he's playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. If the Pelicans can get themselves in order and win 45+ games, I think he wins. Lebron is not having a big year as of yet and I don't expect KD to play at an MVP level once he returns (I think he will be DQ'd anyway, right?)

Guys like Curry, Harden and Bosh can be in the running if their teams win 55+ games this year. I don't really see anyone else coming close. Marc Gasol COULD be in MVP talks if the Grizz finish with a top 2-3 seed and he's averaging somewhere around 20/ 9 / 3/ 2 / 1, but I don't see his PPG staying where its at.
 
Well, clearly he can't keep all those numbers up THAT high, the 35 PER alone better drop, or the NBA is doomed. :lol:

But, if he gets anywhere close to that, NO likely still gonna finish in that 41-45 win range, at best, with a still flawed roster, but with Durant missing so much time, and Bron maybe, maybe not doing something Bron like, AD could sneak thru. Would be tough, especially at 45ish wins, but if he does keep these numbers, somehow, nobody gonna tell me nothin, that kid is stupid dominant. :smh:
 
Now if only Eric Gordon could be revived.

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Dwight gets no love for MVP, but he'll be right there.
 
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I think Harden will help take some of the Dwight votes, which could help an AD sneak past. (unless of course Bron resumes form)
 
And Monty Williams stinks. I think the final straw was when he brought in Luke Babbitt into the game before Ryan Anderson.
 
If you read that Ryan Anderson piece, I'm going to have a hard time talking bad about Monty Williams, ever again. :frown:

I know he could be better, but some things are even more important than the court stuff, and he passes that in spades.

Iono. I liked Monty, and he's probably holding them back, but he's also done some good stuff we don't see. That I give him a lot of credit for now.
 
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