The NBA Stats Thread: The 15-year chain reaction that led to the NBA's current offensive explosion
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I'm not sure the Pelicans will win enough games for AD to win it. I'm assuming they'd need ~50 wins.
I like Curry's chances. If LeBron doesn't go LeBron of course.
I like Curry's chances. If LeBron doesn't go LeBron of course.
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Can't tell if you're trolling or not.AD, Randle, Mudiay is more my thinking.
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not much to buy. Watch their games and its obvious how he's being used differently with Asik around. Its a simple concept, and I challenge anyone to look up a range of shot blockers and see how their BPG are affected by complimentary bigs. and regardless, like I said, it doesnt mean Davis's blocking ability isn't at an elite level.
all that said, yall might need to pump the brakes on 3rd best player (or are yall saying 3rd in blocks? i havent looked up any stats) and bonafide MVP talks. I love Brow as much as the next man, but he has some learning.
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But does scheming and personnel that enhances what he's already great at mean that his stats are inflated? Would you say that CP3's stats are inflated because Blake is an elite PnR finisher? Clearly, having Asik next to him helps him. I'm not willing to say that the numbers are inflated, though.
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He's not going to do that with a bum next to him and CP wouldn't do that with a bum in pick n roll. but passing and blocking are different things. CP can orchestrate an offense and get his assists with various guys/schemes at his disposal. Kind of hard to facilitate defensively (as an individual) and that equate to more blocks being produced
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I always used to say only 4 players drastically effect the game in an out sized way. Dwight/Lebron/KD/CP3.
Chris Paul has declined.
Dwight has declined.
AD has made the leap we all expected.
It's only Bron/KD/AD now as the only world destroying singular forces.
Chris Paul has declined.
Dwight has declined.
AD has made the leap we all expected.
It's only Bron/KD/AD now as the only world destroying singular forces.
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Dude led the league in blocks last year, leads the league in blocks this year (so far)
2.8 in 35 minutes last year
4.4 in 37 minutes this year.
What's the problem? Asik ain't inflating ****.
if you didn't prove my point, I'm not sure what life is.
are you insinuating he would average 4.4 blocks Regardless of who they put next to him at C?
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Dude led the league in blocks last year, leads the league in blocks this year (so far)
2.8 in 35 minutes last year
4.4 in 37 minutes this year.
What's the problem? Asik ain't inflating ****.
if you didn't prove my point, I'm not sure what life is.
are you insinuating he would average 4.4 blocks Regardless of who they put next to him at C?
Dude, it's one block in 2 extra minutes of PT, with a player that's still improving. Asik or not, he was likely going to increase upon 2.8, especially with a couple extra minutes per game. How is that confusing to you?
Asik has helped him, no doubt, but you make it sound like he's getting blocks just because Asik is there. Sorry, but that is not the case.
Besides, he isn't going to stay at 4.4 all year, he will eventually settle into 3-3.5 a game, normal increase from more PT and growth in his own game.
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Dude, it's one block in 2 extra minutes of PT, with a player that's still improving. Asik or not, he was likely going to increase upon 2.8, especially with a couple extra minutes per game. How is that confusing to you?
Asik has helped him, no doubt, but you make it sound like he's getting blocks just because Asik is there. Sorry, but that is not the case.
Besides, he isn't going to stay at 4.4 all year, he will eventually settle into 3-3.5 a game, normal increase from more PT and growth in his own game.
i mean, how am I making it sound like anything than I originally stated?
"Omer Asik's presence is inflating the hell out of AD's block numbers. Not that AD's shot blocking ability isn't elite, but yea. He has some help this year"
It's like y'all agree but don't want to agree
. maybe I'll change "inflating the hell" to "drastically helping"
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Good teammates and better coaching leads to the best palyer playing better?
uhhh isn't this the case for every player?
uhhh isn't this the case for every player?
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"its like y'all agree but don't want to agree"
"are you insinuating he would average 4.4 blocks Regardless of who they put next to him at C?"
"are you insinuating he would average 4.4 blocks Regardless of who they put next to him at C?"
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if you're not watching the games, we probably shouldn't even have engaged in debate. go to 82games.com and look up the sets with Davis at the 4 vs. the 5 this year and last. and ask yourself why they paid Asik 15 mil. we may be arguing semantics to some degree, but AD (and any player) is going to get a boost from scheme/fit. that's currently happening.
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And getting a boost for scheme/fit is not inflation. That's just good coaching.
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#KobeSystem
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The Lakers are on course for the worst defense ever at 117.8 points per 100 possessions per bball-ref.com.
This is their opponents'' shot chart for the season so far:
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This is their opponents'' shot chart for the season so far:
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But we knew how this season was going to be! I'm enjoying it.
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What's worse; that defense coming from a coach that "doesn't care about defense" or that defense coming from a "defense first" coach?
We tried and tried to tell them. Fanbase just kept screaming for his head.
All they had to do was pick up a one year option, pennies to them, and they wouldn't do it.
Now we have five guys inside the arc at all times and the same defense.
