HANNIBAL NBC | S3, Ep13 "The Wrath of the Lamb" 8/29/15 10/9c

That con was on some carrie and saul level :pimp: Leggo 2 more to go!

And finally nbc did something right, S3!
 
Do you think they bring back Gillian Anderson in some way now that "Crisis" is officially cancelled?

They probably don't need to go down that story anymore but I think it would be cool to have some flashbacks as to nature of her and Hannibal's relationship.
 
aye the minute I turned off that pilot I knew that show would get canned and was wondering why Scully thought that was a good show to leave Hannibal for. :smh:
 
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Do you think they bring back Gillian Anderson in some way now that "Crisis" is officially cancelled?

They probably don't need to go down that story anymore but I think it would be cool to have some flashbacks as to nature of her and Hannibal's relationship.
She never really had to leave Hannibal. I felt she was written out cuz they were done with the character for the time being. Her character was always just guest starring never a regular.

So there's a chance for flashbacks or maybe a storyline where Will finds her to talk again.
 
aye the minute I turned off that pilot I knew that show would get canned and was wondering why Scully thought that was a good show to leave Hannibal for.
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Got to get that money. That X-files cash must be running low
 
If Hannibal was behind bars, I could see them bringing her back.

She kinda had a perfect ending, though. :lol:
 
She never really had to leave Hannibal. I felt she was written out cuz they were done with the character for the time being. Her character was always just guest starring never a regular.

So there's a chance for flashbacks or maybe a storyline where Will finds her to talk again.

That's what I meant actually when speaking about her character sinc she isn't a major one


I think it would be cool to have some flashbacks.
 
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Well there you go, Gillian is back and creeping me out the way she's hyping Hannibal up to be a super mastermind like he can't be touched and if he is it's cuz he wanted it.
 
Hannibal can't be touched... Look how long it's taking Will & Jack to catch him & the lengths they are going to.

Man, I can't believe what the network got away with in showing what happened to Mason Verger... I'm mean, homey was feeding the dogs & did something worse than picking his nose & eating his boogies...

I have to mentally "digest" what I saw tonight... OMG... More thoughts & observations later. :stoneface:
 
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Michael Pitt could play the Joker with this performance (**** cares if he has a horrible attitude on set) This is :wow:

The dinner scene earlier had me thinking Hannibal was about to kill Jack right there :lol:

I thought Hannibal killed Mason, come to see he's resigned him to an even worse fate, being taken care of by Margot.

Will thinks he's sending Hannibal in to a trap but we all know Jack's gonna end up with a knife in his throat :smh: Those other scenes of the preview don't invoke much more hope.
 
Well there you go, Gillian is back and creeping me out the way she's hyping Hannibal up to be a super mastermind like he can't be touched and if he is it's cuz he wanted it.


Think about what he's done to people they still won't tell. Scully, Chilton, Gideon, Mason etc...

Dude mind ***** the FBI/Police AND other psychopaths/psychiatrists

If that's not a mastermind idk what is.
 
Well there you go, Gillian is back and creeping me out the way she's hyping Hannibal up to be a super mastermind like he can't be touched and if he is it's cuz he wanted it.


Think about what he's done to people they still won't tell. Scully, Chilton, Gideon, Mason etc...

Dude mind ***** the FBI/Police AND other psychopaths/psychiatrists

If that's not a mastermind idk what is.
Eh, he can still be touched as we've seen several times. There's a difference between being a mastermind and a super mastermind that can't be touched. The way Scully talking you'd think Hannibal didn't come close to getting got 4-6 times these two seasons. After a while it just becomes plot armor to explain why he aint dead yet. Every now and then like this ep I just think to myself why won't someone just roll up on Hannibal and put two in his head real simple like? That's what I'm focused on when I talk about how she exaggerates but that's clearly cuz of her fear plus it's not hard to be a mastermind when everybody you've dealt with is dumber than you given you can spot and exploit their weaknesses so easily. Pretty clear at the least Hannibal is a better psychiatrist than these buffoons and just cuz you're a psychopath doesn't make you also a genius (despite those two usually coming hand in hand on tv).

But noooo Jack and Will want to do this the right way despite doing wrong to get there. All of Hannibal's masterminding wouldn't have been **** when Will rolled up on him in his kitchen with gun but he aint have **** in the chamber on purpose.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate and enjoy all of this but there's a fine line. I do tend to ask myself where are Jack's superiors and why they haven't questioned him about some of this ****. He had a consultant charged as a serial killer and another consultant/doctor accused of being one as well not to mention losing a trainee and then when she returns she kills the main suspect for a whole bunch of murders the aforementioned consultant was charged with committing but I put that in the back of my head for now given what I already know about this season. The writing is just good enough not to make the FBI look like simpletons like other shows end up doing. However, as far as manipulating others, for some reason most ppl don't initially realize and label Hannibal to be the creepy ************ that he is so they get caught up. Maybe if they made Scully and Chilton come off really smart I'd be more impressed there but Scully seemed like a victim from the start it's just that now we know her full story and Chilton was always a pompous fool too blinded by his ambition to have any kind deductive reasoning until it was right in front of his face. Gideon and Mason are/were both smart psychopaths/sociopaths but not geniuses like Hannibal and Will. I'd just say Gideon is a dumbass that's why he didn't tell but story wise he probably wanted to get back at Chilton and/or hurt Will or maybe he began to admire Hannibal's work. Mason specifically won't tell cuz he wants to get revenge on Hannibal himself. How? Who the **** knows, it's quite possible given what Hannibal did to him off screen finally made him snap or fully deluded to think he's going to recover and be this guy above everyone he thinks he is. I mean son was just delighting in his torn off face feeding those dogs happily.

All in all, Hannibal either manipulates a situation to back ppl in to a corner (setting Will up) or manipulates them directly (anybody he's got to kill for him or not tell on him or something a little bit illegal for him) and when those two don't work out 100% well he does the best he can with it and kills ppl a little earlier than he likes or sacrifices ppl he likes so he won't get caught. I acknowledge he's a mastermind that was clear when he didn't serve human meat at his party, began to set up Chilton, led Jack to discover ol girl in the pit and at the same time cleared Will of the murders while finishing his score but he's not so intelligent that he masterminded the situation for that psychopath Will admirer to string him up and almost kill him just so Jack could show up just in time to save him, same goes for the psychopath cellist he had to fight to the death. He's not that much of a super evil genius that he planned all that.
 
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Your only solution is to shoot him in the head. :lol: :smh: Still would leave a lot of unsolved cases and he gets the last laugh.

You changed the definition of being "touched" to make your point... She was referring to him being caught not murdered.



Respect his gangsta Hannibal puts himself right in the middle of the of EVERYTHING.

He could easily just be the Chesapeake Ripper eat people/gourmet food and play instruments but noooo he helps the police look for himself and other serial killers, is his own copy cat, feeds the FBI the victims of the cases their working on, mails them body parts of their co workers, kills other serial killers because they're making things hot , frames Will ,kills a judge to get Will out of jail, takes their girl, kidnaps people from hospitals and feeds them their own body parts then uses their corpse to frame someone else.









I'm guessing the Hannibal/Jack scene from the first episode starts off like their other dinners then goes left after the usual witty banter gets real or Jack stumbles on that bullet hole. Or maybe Hannibal just confesses then fisticuffs follows.



I can't help but think of the courtroom scene or whenever Hannibal realizes Freddie isn't dead.

[Hannibal voice] You lied to me Will [ Hannibal voice]
 
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Your only solution is to shoot him in the head. :lol: :smh: Still would leave a lot of unsolved cases and he gets the last laugh.

You changed the definition of being "touched" to make your point... She was referring to him being caught not murdered.
She never really said touched. She was talking about catching him but to me she hyped up his manipulating skills as if everything is going according to his plans and we know they're not.

I've seen dude in enough vulnerable situations to know it aint that way. She's just obviously scared to death of him and what he made her do indirectly.
Respect his gangsta Hannibal puts himself right in the middle of the of EVERYTHING.

He could easily just be the Chesapeake Ripper eat people/gourmet food and play instruments but noooo he helps the police look for himself and other serial killers, is his own copy cat, feeds the FBI the victims of the cases their working on, mails them body parts of their co workers, kills other serial killers because they're making things hot , frames Will ,kills a judge to get Will out of jail, takes their girl, kidnaps people from hospitals and feeds them their own body parts then uses their corpse to frame someone else.
Nah he did this to himself. The only reason he's around the FBI is cuz he's infatuated with Will. That's the only reason he's still here. Then he got pulled in and became some sort of friend to Jack. When asked to be Will's psychiatrist he could've said no and be out but once he learned more about him he couldn't himself.

It's only after that where he learned they were mostly hunting him down, then he got caught up with a possible copy cat and somebody taking his credit but in his other life he's already friends with these nut job killers anyway.

I mean yeah sure respect that but Hannibal is really giving himself all the trouble and it aint like I aint seen this before with Dexter doing the same damn thing just with not as good writing.
 
If you take my words out of context of course you can make it seem like I don't comprehend when it's pretty clear you're the one refusing to understand what I AM talking about. I'm not talking about him being caught, read the post.

I already addressed what she was saying about Hannibal as far as being touched and a manipulator but you simply didn't get that or didn't want to hear it. If all you read is me disagreeing then you got a reading problem not me. I don't just disagree. I disagree and then I explained my reasoning thoroughly. If you don't like it cool.

You say he put himself in that situation and it should be respected. I'm saying he didn't do it cuz of his skill but because of his infatuation with Will. As far as I'm concerned that's a weakness. You'd get that if you paid attention to what Scully said when she talked about when you'd be able to catch Hannibal. I didn't just disagree, I disagreed and explained my reasoning thoroughly.

But I can understand you not comprehending what I'm saying so feel free to think I'm just disagreeing or not comprehending. Just keep up with the pics and why not add some gifs.
 
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Hannibal has been messing with Jack before Will came around...that's why he kept Miriam alive. Will has been his main focus but he's been doing this before he came into the picture. Will is well known in psychiatric community he could have had psycho play dates with him without hanging with the FBI.

He likes to be in control and to mess with peoples head. Hanging with the FBI etc helps him. Just like being caught by Miriam.
 
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Hannibal has been messing with Jack before Will came around...that's why he kept Miriam alive. Will has been his main focus but he's been doing this before he came into the picture. Will is well known in psychiatric community he could have had psycho play dates with him without hanging with the FBI.

He likes to be in control and to mess with peoples head. Hanging with the FBI etc helps him. Just like being caught by Miriam.
While famous in the community Will wasn't known as the FBI consultant that get in to a psychopaths head. Plus you got nothing saying he knew who Will was before he started working with Jack. His work with Jack had the stipulation he be monitored and have a a specialist oversee his wellbeing as he did this work. So no there's nothing basing the idea that Hannibal could've just up and made Will his patient on his own. There was no reason for Will to even seek a psychiatrist if he wasn't working with Jack in the first place. Besides that are you telling me it's just a coincidence that Hannibal decides to start messing with the FBI and he just happens to start liking Will as things go on?

Hannibal being infatuated with Will is right there in front of us. Been that way for these 2 seasons. Aint no denying it and it's his weakness even more now that he thinks Will is closer to his side of seeing things. If it wasn't he'd have kept Will locked up or killed him. The more sessions he had with Will the more he liked him.

As far as the FBI and Jack no. Go back to the first season. That was the first time he met Jack. He was never involving himself with the FBI back then the way he is now. It's even mentioned about how he grew more confident over time and made less mistakes that's why he was willing to take the risk to stay close to Will while almost putting himself under the FBI spotlight. Him keeping Miriam around is cuz of what you said, he likes to be in control. He wasn't setting up Chilton the second he kept Miriam alive. She was just something he was keeping in his back pocket as an out if the FBI or any other law agency got close to him. As we've seen, Hannibal only kills the ppl he likes when he's forced to like with Abigail and in that case he only did it for a person he likes even more in Will. So it's possible he also liked Miriam given she was able to figure out who he was through her own detective work and he respected that enough not to kill her. I'm sure he saw messing with the FBI as a new challenge but Will is what is still keeping him here. It's not Hannibal's objective to mess with the FBI and Will. In his own psychopathy he actually does think WIll and Jack are his friends.
 
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HOLY %&$#, what an episode.  Continues to baffle me how they get all this past the censors.  That face-scene.  
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But how the hell is Hannibal so good with that CQC?! 
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  Then have the skills to break the guy's neck, but keep him alive!

Quite a brilliant move though to have Margo be the one to take care of him from now on... 

Anyway, I agree that Scully's fear of him is more of the reason why she thinks he's still in control.  I don't think he intentionally gets himself in all those situations just for the challenge or whatnot.  And I do agree that it's down to his interest in Will... his weakness.  

It'll be interesting to see what role Alana plays in all of this next week.  Will she be the one that takes down Hannibal?  

Gotta go find some debriefs now...

And how great does Scully still look? 
 
HOLY %&$#, what an episode.  Continues to baffle me how they get all this past the censors.  That face-scene.  :x

But how the hell is Hannibal so good with that CQC?! :lol:   Then have the skills to break the guy's neck, but keep him alive!
Quite a brilliant move though to have Margo be the one to take care of him from now on... 

Anyway, I agree that Scully's fear of him is more of the reason why she thinks he's still in control.  I don't think he intentionally gets himself in all those situations just for the challenge or whatnot.  And I do agree that it's down to his interest in Will... his weakness.  

It'll be interesting to see what role Alana plays in all of this next week.  Will she be the one that takes down Hannibal?  

Gotta go find some debriefs now...

And how great does Scully still look? 

She is still :pimp:
 
Holy crap what a great ep so far...

:lol: @ Hannibal being able to smell Freddie on Will...

This ep has me feeling like I'm reaching around in the dark...
 
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