CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLIDER (04/04/14) - BluRay 09/09/14

Ultron was built by Antmam, Professor Pym. So they kind of have to do an Antman movie before the do a Age of Ultron. He's a self aware program constantly upgrading himsel until he reaches 'perfection'
 
Before this film, I thought Shield and Stark would've built Ultron together, now I believe it's just gonna be Stark's creation.
 
Before this film, I thought Shield and Stark would've built Ultron together, now I believe it's just gonna be Stark's creation.


They could have easily stolen Starks technology from when blackwidow was working for him.. And not wanting to be dependent up stark and/or the avengers the same guys who tried to nuke New York could have had their own bots commissioned to be built (and with hydra infiltrating shield, some sabotage could have gone down)

They lose control of ultron because they kept the guy who invented that stuff in the dark.. And ta da ultron trying to kill everyone.. Or they programmed him with some directive pertaining to the avengers because the guys on the screen don't think they can control the avengers (or worst case what if they have to subdue them)
 
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I have feeling it'll be made or evolve from HYDRA tech which we used to think were SHIELD tech.


And they really do not have to address Stark tech being stolen, they already planted the seed when they said Stark helped with the Insight helicarriers. They can just go from there and add it to Ultrons monologue as he explains his purpose and birth.
 
A2 wont be long enough, for A1 they already had the setup and introduction of loki in thor so they were able to jump right in. in A2 they have to introduce the origins of ultron, introduce SW and QS, do a short intro for each returning avenger, have all the two-three man avenger combo scenes, in A1 loki was out and about doing bad things right away in this one im guessing ultron wont be up and running till a little after the start of the movie.

whole lot to fit into a single movie, wish they would have a 1 hour pre A1 mini film that deals with the origins of ultron so they are able to jump right into the story in A2 the movie
 
:pimp: dope movie

just saw this last night. did not expect this movie to be great cause i didn't like the first capt america and i fell asleep twice watching the avengers :lol: now i cant wait for pt 3 and i just might give avengers a second chance
 
A2 wont be long enough, for A1 they already had the setup and introduction of loki in thor so they were able to jump right in. in A2 they have to introduce the origins of ultron, introduce SW and QS, do a short intro for each returning avenger, have all the two-three man avenger combo scenes, in A1 loki was out and about doing bad things right away in this one im guessing ultron wont be up and running till a little after the start of the movie.

whole lot to fit into a single movie, wish they would have a 1 hour pre A1 mini film that deals with the origins of ultron so they are able to jump right into the story in A2 the movie

Nah, they no longer have to stretch out the returning Avengers getting along, Stark will simply have snark remarks and couple of small quibbles here and there but they all get along well now. 3/4 of Avengers felt like it dealt with their interactions and how they got along, there will be none of that in A2 and no point in summarizing what they have been doing, people already saw the prior films. Thor is already on Earth with Jane, IM has no more arc in his chest and Cap is searching for Bucky. It's easy to just call these guys together or have them all be involved together.
 
Ultron's creation itself should be the reason all Avengers show up anyways.

We've seen "threats" show up for IM3, Thor 2, and Cap 2, and the full gang doesn't need to show up.

But Ultron, that will be the batsignal for all of them to report to Fury asap.
 
They could have easily stolen Starks technology from when blackwidow was working for him.. And not wanting to be dependent up stark and/or the avengers the same guys who tried to nuke New York could have had their own bots commissioned to be built (and with hydra infiltrating shield, some sabotage could have gone down)

They lose control of ultron because they kept the guy who invented that stuff in the dark.. And ta da ultron trying to kill everyone.. Or they programmed him with some directive pertaining to the avengers because the guys on the screen don't think they can control the avengers (or worst case what if they have to subdue them)

Just wanted to add that since we've already seen a drawing of the Hulkbuster armor battling the Hulk, they might say the Avengers are unreliable to defend Earth after the 2 cause massive havoc battling each other and that is when Ultron is activated.
 
Ultron's creation itself should be the reason all Avengers show up anyways.

We've seen "threats" show up for IM3, Thor 2, and Cap 2, and the full gang doesn't need to show up.

But Ultron, that will be the batsignal for all of them to report to Fury asap.

I don't think that is necessarily true, I think they were just busy and dealing with other things like the events of the films overlap.


I mean I don't know how Cap or SHIELD doesn't deal with "Mandarin" or the 10 rings when that is right up in their alley.

Don't know how IM doesn't figure out and help with Insight.

Can't figure out how teleport holes to different realms aren't a big concern to SHIELD while London was being leveled.


My guess is SHIELD was ont he verge of being revealed as HYDRA and they were more concerned of the Insight program and hunting down Cap during those events, that may have happened not on the same day but close enough to each other? Maybe SHIELD was already dismantled by the time Thor2 and IM3 events happened? Maybe Stark doesn't have the Arc on his chest anymore when Insight happened and that's why he couldn't do anything and it's what made him create another suit for himself for A2?
 
Starks tech being stolen would've been addressed already

Wouldn't be that much of a stretch.. Ironman 1, fury gets past the security in the end.. Ironman 2, widow works for stark and I assume they would have confiscated everything from hammer and vanko (plus they had cure for the poison).. Ironman 3 after the attack on his home I assume they would have been involved with the cleanup, plus war machine/iron patriot is in the hands of the government so I assume they have access there

And avengers, coulson gets past the security again
 
Starks security sucks overall. Dude tells Mandarin where he lives and has literally no defense when he invites an attack on his home. :lol:
 
Saw this two days ago, was alright but pretty see-through for those of higher intelligence
At what point did you call SHIELD not rebuilding and there being no more SHIELD in the marvel universe.

Cuz honestly, I don't recall ppl calling this a 100% original mystery flick with twist and turns no one could ever expect :lol: Biggest surprise was no more SHIELD.
 
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Starks security sucks overall. Dude tells Mandarin where he lives and has literally no defense when he invites an attack on his home. :lol:
Son had all the armors in the basement of his basement and didn't activate any of them.
 
Maybe that's how Jarvis becomes Ultron? He figures out that Stark is just too stupid so he takes over all his tech.
 
So at the end of this film, Shield is done? I'm still confused on the whole hydra/shield connection to begin with. Didnt know shield was Hydra the entire time
 
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