Thoughts on this article about rape?

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I remember reading a thread on another forum about some guy who's girlfriend supposedly got raped at a party. She wouldn't report it for some reason so he said it's what ever and kept it moving.

A few weeks later he went through her phone and read texts between her and her friend talking about how it "kinda" felt good and i guess that's why she didn't report it, but yeah it ticked him off and he broke up with her.

It kinda made me think for a while.

So i did some research and this article popped up.
A university study, Romeo, Felicia F. “Acquaintance Rape on College and University Campuses,” AAETS. Web. 22 Nov. 2010.”  The study of female rape victims concluded that the majority – 57% – of women who were raped on college campuses, reported feelings that were described as “positive” and “satisfied,” about the experience.

The study reflected survey results of 1,700 victims of rape that was perpetrated by a male acquaintance in a social environment, also known as “date” rape.

A meta analytic review of related studies pointed to the validity of the Romeo study. Hoskins and Fisk, 2010.

Perhaps surprising in the survey results was the fact that nearly 38% of the respondents reported a desire to repeat the experience, some obsessively so.

This would also be quite consistent with findings outlined in an article from Psychology Today, regarding the prevalence and incidence of rape fantasies in women, much of which are quite extreme and violent.

From the article:

From 1973 through 2008, nine surveys of women’s rape fantasies have been published. They show that about four in 10 women admit having them (31 to 57 percent) with a median frequency of about once a month. Actual prevalence of rape fantasies is probably higher because women may not feel comfortable admitting them.

For the latest report (Bivona, J. and J. Critelli. “The Nature of Women’s Rape Fantasies: An Analysis of Prevalence, Frequency, and Contents,”Journal of Sex Research (2009) 46:33), psychologists at North Texas University asked 355 college women: How often have you fantasized being overpowered/forced/raped by a man/woman to have oral/vaginal/anal sex against your will?

Sixty-two percent said they’d had at least one such fantasy. But responses varied depending on the terminology used. When asked about being “overpowered by a man,” 52 percent said they’d had that fantasy, the situation most typically depicted in women’s romance fiction. But when the term was “rape,” only 32 percent said they’d had the fantasy. These findings are in the same ballpark as previous reports.

Clearly, there is much yet to be understood about women and their predilection for being physically overpowered and forced to engage in sexual activity in a violent way.

And it calls into question whether prevailing attitudes about rape may be convoluted due to a social taboo against the practice.

It may be time in modern culture where we need to start evaluating the possibility that women, through the cultural expression of patriarchy, may be unfairly restricted from articulating their desire to be raped, and as such cut off from the full actualization of their sexual freedom.

In another Psychology Today article on dealing with the sexual liberation of women, some aspects of repression were addressed.

From the article:

What caused the sexual revolution?

Many factors may have been implicated, such as improved contraception (the pill which gave women more control), but effective condoms had been widely used for a century. Marriage prospects and careers were the key. Women’s marriage prospects worsened steadily throughout the sixties and there were only 80 men of marriageable age for every 100 women (2) thanks to an echo effect of the baby boom a generation earlier. Women also postponed marriage as they developed careers.

The net result was a large and increasing population of women who were sexually active outside marriage. Facing stiffer competition for men, women upped the ante by offering increased levels of sexual intimacy outside marriage.

In addition to complying with the masculine desire for sex without strings, women today adopt a more masculine sensibility regarding issues of number of sexual partners, sexual variety, and sexual satisfaction.

And, in a related study by Kale and Weiser, 1998, it was suggested that the full actualization of that liberation would include the idea of women’s pervasive rape fantasies being fulfilled spontaneously by men in their immediate environment.

On a more subjective note, this could be an explanation for the recurrent theme in feminist literature of “rape culture.” It may well be that the outward obsession with this notion, in a culture that clearly condemns and punishes rape, may be a matter of projective denial reflecting a desire for an actual rape culture to emerge in order to fulfill women’s unfulfilled sexual desires.

It also calls into question whether the concept of “consent,” where it relates to sexual activity, is antiquated. Indeed it calls into question whether the concept of “rape,” in the literal definition, is just a cultural misconception for a male tendency to fulfill women’s desire for sexual excitement and thrills and women’s collective desire to see this accomplished.

That would at least partly explain why there is currently far reaching efforts to broaden the definition of rape, given we interpret those efforts as an attempt to fulfill as many rape fantasies as possible.

All this should be considered, however, with the caveat that the Romeo study found no results whatsoever as presented in paragraphs 1 and 2 of this article, and the fact that the Kale & Weiser and Fisk studies are not extant.

These items, indeed this entire article, are illustrative examples of what Murray Straus identified as “Evidence by Citation” and other forms of academic fraud in widespread and unchallenged use by feminist ideologues. They were presented here as an example of their destructive use.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/study-reveals-female-rape-victims-enjoyed-the-experience/
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This would probably explain why rape is “the most underreported crime.” I’m sure there are many women who have enjoyed the experience, but would never admit for fear of being ostracized. Obviously, not all women enjoy being raped, or you wouldn’t have any women going to the police.

I’m sure there are many variables that affect a woman’s enjoyment of rape or lack of. Did the rapist use a weapon on her or threaten to kill her? Was there a beating in addition to the rape? Did he use a foreign object to rape her? Was he a George Clooney lookalike, or was he just some smelly drunken bum off of the street?

The bottom line is this: regardless of whether or not most women enjoy being raped, the crime itself is pretty much trivial. Yeah, yeah, feminists claim it’s a violation of a woman’s body, her soul, and her entire existence. Whatever.

Bottom line is, rape is a form of sex. It’s not murder, and it’s not a form of assault that causes serious or permanent physical damage in most cases. It’s indicative of the unhealthy obsession our society has with sex that sexual assaults are punished far more severely than non-sexual assaults. The crime is taken so serious because it is a remnant of the good old “chivalrous” days when a woman who was not a virgin was thought unfit for marriage and also when a woman could get pregnant and not be able to get an abortion.

The reason some women display such deep emotional suffering after being raped is that they’re told at an early age that rape is the most horrible violation imaginable, and if you get raped, you should exhibit symptoms of severe psychological trauma.
 
Words cannot describe the anger and confusion on the second quote where the guy calls rape "trivial." I wonder how "trivial" it would be if some guy punches him out, ties him down, and proceeds to give him oral sex and he ejaculates. Is that trivial? Does this now make the man gay because of the way his body responded to the rape? Did he really enjoy it even though his mind and mouth was saying no? This is just sick and it's usually not even the rape that causes women psychological trauma, it's the fact that someone had complete control over you. 

I wonder how that man feels when young girls and children are raped, is it still "trivial", is it still a form of sex. Just sick. 
 
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I'm reporting you to the authorities, just in case you get any ideas after reading those articles OP

Seriously what is that second quote even talking about :smh:
 
Not really that surprising.

Women already(how can I say this without virgin *** NTers taking it the wrong way?) "taken". Mix that with a chick already wanting some anyone, I'd imagine it would kinda miss with their(if thats what you want to even call it).

I mean think about how many times you've been laying in the bed thinking, "Man I wish a bad *** chick would just walk through the door..". You don't think women have the same thoughts?
 
Wow I did not even realize that the guy from the previous thread updated it that he saw a text from his girl saying she liked the rape or that it felt good. That's crazy. Seems like everyday I find something that reinforces the notion that when u think u know somebody u find out otherwise
 
Wow I did not even realize that the guy from the previous thread updated it that he saw a text from his girl saying she liked the rape or that it felt good. That's crazy. Seems like everyday I find something that reinforces the notion that when u think u know somebody u find out otherwise
yea i was out that thread the minute NTers predictably was like, 'your girl love tyrone more op, better dip while the dippin good,'.  it was funny and op kept maintaining his girl was good and all that ish..never read the update.  gonna go find that thread.

found it thatwaseasy.jpg http://niketalk.com/t/524120/girlfriend-got-raped-need-to-vent-updated-information-at-pg1
 
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yea i was out that thread the minute NTers predictably was like, 'your girl love tyrone more op, better dip while the dippin good,'.  it was funny and op kept maintaining his girl was good and all that ish..never read the update.  gonna go find that thread.

found it thatwaseasy.jpg http://niketalk.com/t/524120/girlfriend-got-raped-need-to-vent-updated-information-at-pg1
Thanks I am on a iPhone yet I don't see any update where she texted a friend that she like it and the guy then leaves her am I missing something or did op make this up to go alone with the article?
 
North Texas university ...

So the yambs out here want me to be about that rape life?

:smh:

Can't eem do it kinfoe.

if any NTers need a place to post up before they go overpowering yambs at UNT..

Dont hit me up.
 
This article reiterates something I've known for a while, but the way some people are going to take this is sick and very, very wrong. I'm starting to really dislike this planet.

My girl was molested/raped when she was young. You and I can't imagine the amount of confusion, hurt, and anguish she has gone through because of that. As a result of her trauma, not only did she become sexually-active at a very young age, but she also dated and had sex with partners who were often 4-5 years her senior while she was in middle/high school. Furthermore, she finds the most pleasure in sex that is rough and very dominant.

Some NTers probably think that sounds great, but really think about that situation. You have a 13 year old girl--some of you have daughters around that age--who likes rough sex with older men...isn't the trauma clear? She herself broke down once because I wasn't into being rough that night and said it made me feel weird....she cried and told me how it wasn't the first time she'd been told she was "weird" for being into it, but she didn't know why she liked it.

How do you think it feels for someone who was raped to start to look for the same characteristics of their rape in their everyday sex life? I mean, it's even hard for me to imagine, but really try to consider the mental anguish one has to go through when they realize that the experience of that rape doesn't end after the guy has left, or after the counselling... it stays with you even in your bedroom preferences. One of the most basic parts of you, one of your most basic desires, has been forcibly CHANGED without your permission, by the most intimate invasion of your self.
 
This article reiterates something I've known for a while, but the way some people are going to take this is sick and very, very wrong. I'm starting to really dislike this planet.

My girl was molested/raped when she was young. You and I can't imagine the amount of confusion, hurt, and anguish she has gone through because of that. As a result of her trauma, not only did she become sexually-active at a very young age, but she also dated and had sex with partners who were often 4-5 years her senior while she was in middle/high school. Furthermore, she finds the most pleasure in sex that is rough and very dominant.

Some NTers probably think that sounds great, but really think about that situation. You have a 13 year old girl--some of you have daughters around that age--who likes rough sex with older men...isn't the trauma clear? She herself broke down once because I wasn't into being rough that night and said it made me feel weird....she cried and told me how it wasn't the first time she'd been told she was "weird" for being into it, but she didn't know why she liked it.

How do you think it feels for someone who was raped to start to look for the same characteristics of their rape in their everyday sex life? I mean, it's even hard for me to imagine, but really try to consider the mental anguish one has to go through when they realize that the experience of that rape doesn't end after the guy has left, or after the counselling... it stays with you even in your bedroom preferences. One of the most basic parts of you, one of your most basic desires, has been forcibly CHANGED without your permission, by the most intimate invasion of your self.

Excellent point man.
 
Words cannot describe the anger and confusion on the second quote where the guy calls rape "trivial." I wonder how "trivial" it would be if some guy punches him out, ties him down, and proceeds to give him oral sex and he ejaculates. Is that trivial? Does this now make the man gay because of the way his body responded to the rape? Did he really enjoy it even though his mind and mouth was saying no? This is just sick and it's usually not even the rape that causes women psychological trauma, it's the fact that someone had complete control over you. 

I wonder how that man feels when young girls and children are raped, is it still "trivial", is it still a form of sex. Just sick. 

yeah I was like wtf

trivial? :smh:
 
And for the second quote talking about why rape is the most underreported crime....SERIOUSLY?!

Rape is underreported because the trauma is so great that they can't face the offender again, and they KNOW they will have to when they go on the stand. Furthermore, rape victims are often brutalized by lawyers in trial, because many times it's hard to prove the rape wasn't consensual even WITH DNA evidence. Take all of the feelings of confusion like I posted above and then couple that with having to look at the monster who did that to you in a courtroom for an extended period of time and you'll get a better idea of why it's underreported.

My girl and I were watching an episode of SVU (I have to cringe when we watch it but she actually likes the show), and one the rape victims was getting hammered by the lawyer while she was testifying. She told me then and there that that was one of the reasons why she never reported it. The guy who did it to her (actually a close family friend :smh: ) is actually in jail now because he started doing it to his own DAUGHTER and she finally told. My girl felt bad that she hadn't told and her old friend had to go through that...both of them were still in middle school at the time...

No one deserves to have THAT sort of guilt placed upon them, and all of the other issues that come along with the situation. I did some detective work and I'm keeping tabs on the guy who did it. I shouldn't say anything more than that.
 
Bivona, J. and J. Critelli. “The Nature of Women’s Rape Fantasies: An Analysis of Prevalence, Frequency, and Contents,”Journal of Sex Research (2009) 46:33), psychologists at North Texas University asked 355 college women
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 to that sample size.

quite a few leaps in logic in that article as well.
 
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