Grey market discussion thread (Let's keep the discussion mature) Rules on pg 1 please read before yo

[frenchbreadbuilds]

In this pic, the ones on the left are fake?

sorry I just positioned the shoe poorly they're the same pair of shoes. My retail pair. I'll take another pic and post

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

View media item 432899Here's a better pic. These are from the release date at finishline.

 

[jchambers]

Man, now that they are selling these high quality "authentics" in half sizes with the real boxes, packaging, etc. It's a wrap for Ebay sales without a receipt.

 

[anthracite8s]

yep I've been wanting to trade for white/black 13s which I missed out on but it's hard to do it without a receipt. and then I think I could still get scammed if they give me a different pair than the one they showed me a receipt for. pretty much retail or bust for me which it always has been anyways, it just sucks that now it's easier to miss a RD pair I used to have no problems copping whatever I wanted but those white/black 13 were the first shoe I've missed and came close to missing on a few others

 

[infamouskickz]

Man, now that they are selling these high quality "authentics" in half sizes with the real boxes, packaging, etc. It's a wrap for Ebay sales without a receipt.

True, but only for people who actually know what to look for. At least for now, most of the general public doesn't even know what the "grey market" is.

 

[jchambers]

Man, now that they are selling these high quality "authentics" in half sizes with the real boxes, packaging, etc. It's a wrap for Ebay sales without a receipt.

True, but only for people who actually know what to look for. At least for now, most of the general public doesn't even know what the "grey market" is.

I had no idea that they were pumping out high quality fakes or "grey market authentics" until this thread popped up. All of the fakes that I remember from the swap meets and gas stations/ flea markets were all terrible shape and quality and never came in half sizes or with real boxes. I hope that they become prevalent and run the prices down on kicks and cut down on the resellers profits. I am sick of all of this hype and not being able to get kicks that I want to wear.

 

[jchambers]

yep I've been wanting to trade for white/black 13s which I missed out on but it's hard to do it without a receipt. and then I think I could still get scammed if they give me a different pair than the one they showed me a receipt for. pretty much retail or bust for me which it always has been anyways, it just sucks that now it's easier to miss a RD pair I used to have no problems copping whatever I wanted but those white/black 13 were the first shoe I've missed and came close to missing on a few others

I missed those in the pack with the 10s and just recently. It has gotten to the point where I can't even get kicks online anymore, because Nike.com and Eastbay get shut down and the kicks sell out within minutes.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

Man, now that they are selling these high quality "authentics" in half sizes with the real boxes, packaging, etc. It's a wrap for Ebay sales without a receipt.

if you're like one of those collectors that keeps there shoes in a glass box like a museum piece or a piece of art then I can understand why the need for a receipt is needed but if you're buying the shoes because you're going to wear them and you like how they look then by all means get some grey ,arrests if you can't find retail pairs in the size condition and price you want. But for those people on the LC forum saying "those soles are too icy don't buy them" or "look at how high/low the patent leather cut is they must be fake" are making it sound like you're buying an inferior product when you're not. My previous post showed that if you're going by the "flaws" of the shoe you could very well discount a ton of retail pairs as fake or inferior when that just isn't the case at all. This is why ninja hood has been spending all this time trying to show people the difference between retail and unauthorized, and the difference between fake/replica and unauthorized.

 

[jchambers]

Man, now that they are selling these high quality "authentics" in half sizes with the real boxes, packaging, etc. It's a wrap for Ebay sales without a receipt.

if you're like one of those collectors that keeps there shoes in a glass box like a museum piece or a piece of art then I can understand why the need for a receipt is needed but if you're buying the shoes because you're going to wear them and you like how they look then by all means get some grey ,arrests if you can't find retail pairs in the size condition and price you want. But for those people on the LC forum saying "those soles are too icy don't buy them" or "look at how high/low the patent leather cut is they must be fake" are making it sound like you're buying an inferior product when you're not. My previous post showed that if you're going by the "flaws" of the shoe you could very well discount a ton of retail pairs as fake or inferior when that just isn't the case at all. This is why ninja hood has been spending all this time trying to show people the difference between retail and unauthorized, and the difference between fake/replica and unauthorized.

I wear all of my shoes, always have. I can't even comprehend why someone would want to "collect" an article of clothing. I'm not that type of person.

 

[jchambers]

I ordered some "authentic" Space Jams. I am going to compare those to the real ones and post some pics. If those work out, I am going to order the "authentic" breds and compare those to my officials as well.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

I wear all of my shoes, always have. I can't even comprehend why someone would want to "collect" an article of clothing. I'm not that type of person.

LOL seriously. The only reason some of my shoes are DS is just cause I haven't gotten around to wearing them yet. But as far as grey market goes if all that's determining the price of these 11s is that thin piece of paper we call a receipt and nikes authorization then choice is easy to me. But if people want to pay 200-300 over retail for a piece of paper and the thumbs up from a person in a factory in china somewhere be my guest. But that's essentially what you're paying for when these grey markets are going for around retail.

 

[infamouskickz]

I ordered some "authentic" Space Jams. I am going to compare those to the real ones and post some pics. If those work out, I am going to order the "authentic" breds and compare those to my officials as well.

Yeah, definitely post some pics when you get them in!

 

[jchambers]

Nike just needs to have Jordans 1-14 on their website at all times in OG colors for custom ordering. Just made to order like Nike IDs. They could charge a premium and have some special lace lock or something on them with a serial number and come in some special packaging.

 

[jchambers]

The Space Jams cost me $250 with shipping and 4 keychains included (otherwise shipping would have been $100), so I am hoping that they are pretty damb close in quality to real ones.

 

[jchambers]

I ordered some "authentic" Space Jams. I am going to compare those to the real ones and post some pics. If those work out, I am going to order the "authentic" breds and compare those to my officials as well.

Yeah, definitely post some pics when you get them in!

I definitely will, unless the mods tell me not to. I know that we are treading on dangerous ground with this thread in the first place.

 

[ninjahood]

Man, now that they are selling these high quality "authentics" in half sizes with the real boxes, packaging, etc. It's a wrap for Ebay sales without a receipt.

if you're like one of those collectors that keeps there shoes in a glass box like a museum piece or a piece of art then I can understand why the need for a receipt is needed but if you're buying the shoes because you're going to wear them and you like how they look then by all means get some grey ,arrests if you can't find retail pairs in the size condition and price you want. But for those people on the LC forum saying "those soles are too icy don't buy them" or "look at how high/low the patent leather cut is they must be fake" are making it sound like you're buying an inferior product when you're not. My previous post showed that if you're going by the "flaws" of the shoe you could very well discount a ton of retail pairs as fake or inferior when that just isn't the case at all. This is why ninja hood has been spending all this time trying to show people the difference between retail and unauthorized, and the difference between fake/replica and unauthorized.

exactly.

 

[squatchnt]

True, but only for people who actually know what to look for. At least for now, most of the general public doesn't even know what the "grey market" is.

No one knows what 'grey market' is, but it's provacative. It gets the people going! But seriously if they are made 3rd party to spec would that make a difference? As long they are just as good that's all that matters right? Personally no shoe is worth more than retail at this point...smh if these shoes are really that good and available for cheap in bulk resellers will switch buying methods and retail pairs will once again be available to regular people. LOL

 

[Bert.]

I can totally understand huge fans of yeezys n corks buying grey market


But i wouldnt myself

i have to lie? i even said before i had early release white cement IV next to NDC pair and they were exact same in every single aspect. the only way i was able to tell them apart was that the netting on the GM pair was already yellowed. If it wasnt for that, leather, stitching, shape, smell, tagging, all were EXACT SAME! said this months ago.

i could give a damn less about GM, im not buying shoes from anyone other than NDC so it doesnt apply to me.

are they using exact materials? YES!

are they made in the same factory? 99.9% sure hell yes

are they the exact same shoes as retail pairs all around minus some crappy work? umm pretty sure its yes

these shoes are everything we are buying in stores but then again why am i telling you guys? everyone has there own opinions and unlike some of you ive actually handed a few pairs in hand, inspected and what not.

 

[Bert.]

I ordered some "authentic" Space Jams. I am going to compare those to the real ones and post some pics. If those work out, I am going to order the "authentic" breds and compare those to my officials as well.

Yeah, definitely post some pics when you get them in!

I definitely will, unless the mods tell me not to. I know that we are treading on dangerous ground with this thread in the first place.

cant you get banned i guess for even admitting that you bought them? not sure how they can ban someone though from buying from somewhere.

theres tons of people on here with fake LV, gucci, etc, etc even though these arent necessarily fake but im not the boss, meth is.

 

[deezrsackolishus]

Meth was allowing niketalkers to sell these in the buy/sell as authentic.

I dont think u can be banned for buying them. For trying to push them, yes

 

[theprinceofde]

The Space Jams cost me $250 with shipping and 4 keychains included (otherwise shipping would have been $100), so I am hoping that they are pretty damb close in quality to real ones.

Wow and to think SJ on the resell market are close to $500.

Looking forward to the pics.

Someone hit up nightwing on youtube and tell him to do the same, he won't mind actually dissecting the sneaker (not suggesting you do that at all).

 

[dubizzle]

Reasons not to buy fakes (grey market shoes are fake)
1 - their sellers are stealing others' intellectual property
2 - it hurts the economy
3 - contributes to increasing the deficit (no tax revenues)
4 - funds illegal activity
5 - you are spending real money for fake goods.

if those five reasons aren't enough, you're probably beyond reasoning with

 

[Bert.]

The Space Jams cost me $250 with shipping and 4 keychains included (otherwise shipping would have been $100), so I am hoping that they are pretty damb close in quality to real ones.

Wow and to think SJ on the resell market are close to $500.

Looking forward to the pics.

Someone hit up nightwing on youtube and tell him to do the same, he won't mind actually dissecting the sneaker (not suggesting you do that at all).

yea lets bother other people to spend their own hard earned money just to help some people out

if Jchambers wants he can dissect his pair since he already took the plunge. No one has to do anything but i dont think dissecting will show us anything but it will shut some people up. id say id do it but im not ballin otherwise i would have done it a long time ago when i told NTers to chip in and do it.

 

[deezrsackolishus]

If this dude does that crap for fun, maybe he wouldnt mind doing it

God why all the poeple just so fast to jump on others for an idea.

I bet dissecting reveals just why these are "grey market"

 

[bilboshmangins]

Reasons not to buy fakes (grey market shoes are fake)
1 - their sellers are stealing others' intellectual property
2 - it hurts the economy
3 - contributes to increasing the deficit (no tax revenues)
4 - funds illegal activity
5 - you are spending real money for fake goods.

if those five reasons aren't enough, you're probably beyond reasoning with

this obviously can't be real life??