Grey market discussion thread (Let's keep the discussion mature) Rules on pg 1 please read before yo

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Zyzz said:
not exaggerating at all

AUTHORIZED RETAILERS! is that better? screw these lil sneaker head sites popping up everyday made by NTers and etc. screw them. everyone is out there to make a buck and of course they will do it in a shady way.

im not paying over retail and im not buying from UN-authorized retailers.

you dont have to follow my plan, its your money. if you wanna get ripped off then go for it brah
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i didnt say anything about a sneakerhead site being made by NTers everyday, im talking about other shops. Would u call DTLR an authorized retailer? how about concepts and bodega, or st.alfreds? Thye all sell grey market sneakers in your book? You are definitely even more paranoid than me about the whole grey market situation. Maybe someone intercepted your NDC order and put in grey market shoes lol. Or maybe someone switched a pair at FTL. Its unlikely, but its not completely impossible man.
 
I Have A Question About TheUnaurthorized Space Jams On Page 1. Would They Be Considered Fake Of Just B Grades Like The Early Shoes? Im LookingAt A Couple Pair And They Are Fresh To DeatH. Just Cant Cop Fakes Tho
 
ColdCity said:
NO

"fell off a truck" never equated to fake pairs/gray/unauthorized

that ALWAYS meant they were stolen authorized products that they relieved the truck of

not the same in any way
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Hey, whatever helps you sleep better at night. Call it what you want.
 
This thread should seriously be shut down,

We all know what exactly is going on. Nike dont give a crap about us, we have the oppurtunity to get the shoe we want and we ain't gonna pay no premium price for a dude that works at nike for thumbs up on our item for that extra $200 as authorization. Plus wont even give a crap what other thinks about piss yellow sole vs icy GM SJ's. 

Most people speak from loyalty of the brand instead of logic how the sneaker game is changing. It's like telling somebody something entirely different because that's what they believed all their life. They will fight back in every way to believe what they believed in the past was true. 

THIS IS LIKE ARGUING ABOUT RELIGION - Fact is fact, its all been laid out it's up to you to believe what is real. From the general population stand point, they will see it as the real deal because it is made from authentic material from the same factory. 

Sneaker game is done as far as this thread continues, everybody is getting into the GM sneakers. Why? Because it's been exposed due to this thread and there's no way of stopping it.
 
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^Doesn't matter if this thread gets shut down. This topic is popping up in so many damn threads that have nothing to do with it.

I've posted my stance on this a few times. For purest of the sneaker culture, nothing could be better than this (while it last), because all it really does is bring the value of these recent retros down to a price that is reasonable and acceptable. And take the game back to the days prior the original DMP.

If you think a pair of 2011 concords (or 2009 space jams for that matter) should be reselling for 350-500$ you're either new to this or have sh*t for brains. And if you actually think that's the value of those sneakers you should be shot. Just because I can get some poor soul to pay 400 bucks for a pair of black cat IIIs does not mean that is what they're worth.

I could be wrong, but I think people have a problem with the grey market stuff for the wrong reason. Their beef isn't that it's unsanctioned by Nike, it's that now the multiple pairs of shiny GR releases they've hoarded have a different value ( and to some a different meaning) now.

In my personal opinion, no one should have 4-6 pairs of the same sneaker unless they're wearing'em and trying to have enough to last them until the next retro. If you've obtained these many for the 500$ resale value, or just to have as a bargaining chip for some releases down the line, shame on you. I have nothing against anyone who trades kicks they've had and no longer want, but people who purchased more than enough for the sole purpose of a swap= WACK. There's some high school kid out there who didn't even get the shoe, and here you have pairs you don't even want. SMH.

This grey market stuff puts an end to some of the BS that you've guys have come to except as just another part of the "sneaker game". The topic keeps popping up in every thread because the unauthorized stuff is getting so popular. And I'm glad, because there's is no reason that people should be paying these eBay prices for a RECENT GR that is no wear near worth it. There's no reason that people should not be getting the shoes they want.
 
Beelzebub45 said:
^Doesn't matter if this thread gets shut down. This topic is popping up in so many damn threads that have nothing to do with it.






I've posted my stance on this a few times. For purest of the sneaker culture, nothing could be better than this (while it last), because all it really does is bring the value of these recent retros down to a price that is reasonable and acceptable. And take the game back to the days prior the original DMP.


If you think a pair of 2011 concords (or 2009 space jams for that matter) should be reselling for 350-500$ you're either new to this or have sh*t for brains. And if you actually think that's the value of those sneakers you should be shot. Just because I can get some poor soul to pay 400 bucks for a pair of black cat IIIs does not mean that is what they're worth.



I could be wrong, but I think people have a problem with the grey market stuff for the wrong reason. Their beef isn't that it's unsanctioned by Nike, it's that now the multiple pairs of shiny GR releases they've hoarded have a different value ( and to some a different meaning) now.



In my personal opinion, no one should have 4-6 pairs of the same sneaker unless they're wearing'em and trying to have enough to last them until the next retro. If you've obtained these many for the 500$ resale value, or just to have as a bargaining chip for some releases down the line, shame on you. I have nothing against anyone who trades kicks they've had and no longer want, but people who purchased more than enough for the sole purpose of a swap= WACK. There's some high school kid out there who didn't even get the shoe, and here you have pairs you don't even want. SMH.



This grey market stuff puts an end to some of the BS that you've guys have come to except as just another part of the "sneaker game". The topic keeps popping up in every thread because the unauthorized stuff is getting so popular. And I'm glad, because there's is no reason that people should be paying these eBay prices for a RECENT GR that is no wear near worth it. There's no reason that people should not be getting the shoes they want.
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I sort of agree with this...
 
there are a bunch of review videos of yeezy 2's from "grey market" sites that people have in hand. honestly, theyre not TERRIBLE, but when they do the side by side its clear theyre different.
 
Beelzebub45 said:
I could be wrong, but I think people have a problem with the grey market stuff for the wrong reason. Their beef isn't that it's unsanctioned by Nike, it's that now the multiple pairs of shiny GR releases they've hoarded have a different value ( and to some a different meaning) now.
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I mostly agree with everything you said, but no, most people's beef with this is the legality of it. Couldn't give a **** about the $$ value of the shoes I have. They hold more sentimental meaning to me, and many others.
 
thegamemodo9 said:
The playoff 13's I've seen on Taobao are scary good. Couldn't ever tell the difference.
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PRIME said:
Thats because there is no difference. Thats what a lot of you are faling to realize. They are the same shoes.

You aren't going to spot any differences between these shoes because they are being made by the same people who make the "authorized" pairs.

These shoes aren't replicas...

The only shoes that have any difference are the Space Jams because they started using blue tinted soles similar to those on the concords. And that was more than likely because of the batch of newer soles they started using around the concord release.

At the end of the day it comes down to what BigJ said. You're either with it or against it. This isn't fake vs real, this is morals. "Team Nike vs Team I don't give a ****". Thats basically what it comes down to. Either you want your pair legally through Nike's authorization, or you want your pairs through the back door... Pairs that "fell off a truck" as my uncles would say about stuff back in the day.
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Didn't quite word that well, but yes, you can't tell the difference because they are the same shoes. Never said they were replicas.
 
Beelzebub45, i agree with you. 

Although im not from America and i own a pair of 2011 concord, it was really hard for me to obtain it at retail release. I see people flipping it for $400 which is unfair but hey that's the demand, it's Nike's fault for allowing this to happen. I don't want to say this but if the demand is so high, Nike could and should have made it a general release. This would stop this grey market crap from happening. Due to the hype of it everybody wants a piece of it, if it was so common everyone who love it would own a pair and the hypebeast and reseller would just go away. To stop this grey market crap from happening, Nike needs to supply more to satisfy the demand or else back door method like grey market will exist. 

Nike is killing those who don't own a pair of their most wanted sneaker. In the end everybody just want to have a pair, that way reseller wont exist or resell profit margin aren't that high. Then again there will be a debate where the concord wont be as exclusive but there is a legacy story to be told for that sneaker.

As much as you guys are loyal to Nike they should do us a favor and supply us back or else we will just find back door ways to obtain it. We are sneaker heads, its what we love. We shouldn't pay an arm or leg for reseller value for something we love. That's when grey market comes in. Until this sh*t is a general release, grey market will always help the people who want a pair. 

JB never have to do any advertisement because fools hyping this up from day one like its the greatest sneaker. The quality of the sneakers nowadays are trash but hey i like the looks, the story and  the legacy behind the shoe. All my sneakers are from retail because im from Canada easier for me to cop. 

Look at the grapes 5, it was a general release. Nobody would buy grey market pair of that because its so common, the most reseller can get for that pair is $20-$30. Id pay that if i had work or dont feel like lining up. the XI's were so exclusive and low in supply causing crazy hype. Even sneaker heads who arent in the sneaker game would want a piece of it. 
 
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jumpmankb said:
They were perfect. I would've grabbed a pair if there was one in my size. Black toes are available now also.
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You got pics to provide the non believers in this thread?

It's logical thinking, not saying most American are uneducated but this sh*t makes sense. If it was fake those Chinese sellers on grey market wouldn't price these Royals at $220-$250. They see an oppurtunity to make money they will do that. Nike shot them selves on the foot on this one. 
 
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scrub0bk said:
there are a bunch of review videos of yeezy 2's from "grey market" sites that people have in hand. honestly, theyre not TERRIBLE, but when they do the side by side its clear theyre different.
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Link to said videos? Interested in seeing what a GM pair would actually look like
 
inFamousKickz said:
Link to said videos? Interested in seeing what a GM pair would actually look like
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i saw this one:


then after i watched this one:

From what it looks like too, the first video is a bit older, so they might even be better than before. Clearly they are different in the comparison pics. I honestly might jump on a pair for $70 just to see what they are like and just beat them around to see how they actually hold up
 
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scrub0bk said:
inFamousKickz said:
Link to said videos? Interested in seeing what a GM pair would actually look like
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i saw this one:


then after i watched this one:

From what it looks like too, the first video is a bit older, so they might even be better than before. Clearly they are different in the comparison pics. I honestly might jump on a pair for $70 just to see what they are like and just beat them around to see how they actually hold up
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Naw famb, those are just blatant replicas. Those aren't made from the same materials. You can get those from the same sites that used to sell Gucci AF1's


There's a difference between grey market sneakers and straight up replicas
 
PRIME said:
Naw famb, those are just blatant replicas. Those aren't made from the same materials. You can get those from the same sites that used to sell Gucci AF1's


There's a difference between grey market sneakers and straight up replicas
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Ah, i gotcha. i figured the price point gave that away my b. ignore it.. move one everyone :smokin
 
Yeah man those aint grey market. These are true replicas, unlike the jordans posted here. 
 
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The reason there arent any GM yeezy's is because nike probably kept production on the downlow, unlike the rumored half a million breds they made for retail.
 
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PRIME said:
Naw famb, those are just blatant replicas. Those aren't made from the same materials. You can get those from the same sites that used to sell Gucci AF1's


There's a difference between grey market sneakers and straight up replicas
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Ah, i gotcha. i figured the price point gave that away my b. ignore it.. move one everyone :smokin
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It's all good fam.

As far as my knowledge goes, there aren't any grey market yeezys
 
uknowbigearl said:
This thread should seriously be shut down,

We all know what exactly is going on. Nike dont give a crap about us, we have the oppurtunity to get the shoe we want and we ain't gonna pay no premium price for a dude that works at nike for thumbs up on our item for that extra $200 as authorization. Plus wont even give a crap what other thinks about piss yellow sole vs icy GM SJ's. 

Most people speak from loyalty of the brand instead of logic how the sneaker game is changing. It's like telling somebody something entirely different because that's what they believed all their life. They will fight back in every way to believe what they believed in the past was true. 

THIS IS LIKE ARGUING ABOUT RELIGION - Fact is fact, its all been laid out it's up to you to believe what is real. From the general population stand point, they will see it as the real deal because it is made from authentic material from the same factory. 

Sneaker game is done as far as this thread continues, everybody is getting into the GM sneakers. Why? Because it's been exposed due to this thread and there's no way of stopping it.
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Are you really blaming this thread for exposing members to grey market shoes? You got to be kidding me. There was talk about the grey market way before this thread,and most people on NT new about them even longer. The reason I made this thread is because the talk about grey market shoes was derailing multiple threads on NT, and this was my way to keep all the talk in one place. Also to Help educate members so they can protect themselves from purchasing illegal merchandise. Not to promote these illegal shoes. People will make their own dissions about the grey market with or without this thread,and blaming this this thread by stating

"Sneaker game is done as far as this thread continues, everybody is getting into the GM sneakers. Why? Because it's been exposed due to this thread and there's no way of stopping it"

Just doesn't make any sense at all. If you don't like this thread why do you keep posting in it ?
 
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stevesteve72 - im just here learning and educate others what i believe is true to further more understand the grey market and help examine the products giving reasonable feedbacks. 
 
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uknowbigearl said:
stevesteve72 - im just here learning and educate others what i believe is true to further more understand the grey market and help examine the products giving reasonable feedbacks. 
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Ok, and I have no problem with that, but some of the comments in that other post are just plain ignorant.
 
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