NFL Quarterbacks Discussion thread: 2013 Edition

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We're rapidly approaching the Summer, so what better way to bide our time in waiting for the NFL to comeback by talking about them QB's?

Everyone has an opinion and there's always some colorful discussions regarding the subject, so let's get it started early this year.

Dland sent along to me a great debate and thread starter...CBS Sports NFL QB ranks:

Any time you rank a group of things, people get angry. And when you start ranking NFL quarterbacks and then (stupidly?) throwing labels on them, people get real angry. So be prepared to get mad at the following list of quarterbacks, from best to worst.

Prepared to get especially mad because there's really not a precise way of categorizing guys. There's a group of "elite" quarterbacks up top (my group only features four of them, but it can vary dependent on your preferences), there's another group of quarterbacks who have proven they can win right below that, there's a great crop of "young guns," there's a big slew of veteran quarterbacks stuck in limbo in terms of their future as franchise guys, and there's even a glob of young "put up or shut up" quarterbacks.

I've got them roughly grouped like that below, but the defining criteria for this list is that I've picked, in order with one or two quarterbacks from each team, the signal caller who I think gives me the best chance to win a Super Bowl in 2013 if all things -- wideouts, offensive line, defense -- were created equal.

It's not a list for building a franchise for the long-term future, it's a list for winning this season. And it's also an indication of how deep and talented the quarterback pool in the NFL really is.


Elite

1. Aaron Rodgers, Packers: Rodgers didn't have his best statistical season in 2012 and the Packers didn't climb the mountain, but there's no reason to think of him as anything other than the best quarterback in football. He threw for 4,295 yards, 39 touchdowns and had only eight picks last season. A revamped offensive line and the addition of Eddie Lacy and Johnathan Franklin in the running game should only help him improve.

2. Tom Brady, Patriots: I give Brady the ever-so-slight edge on Peyton Manning here, mainly because I think that if you swapped their situations, Brady could put up some eye-popping numbers. He has Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez, but he's losing Wes Welker. Danny Amendola joining New England is nice, but I'm not convinced that swap doesn't end up burning Bill Belichick and Co. Brady's two biggest advantages, though, are health (I'm less worried about him than Manning) and a history of throwing to absolute garbage wideouts and still succeeding.

3. Peyton Manning, Broncos: It's almost unfathomable, but Manning nearly had the best season of his career at the age of 36, coming off a few neck surgeries and playing for a new team for the first time in his career. Manning threw for 4,659 yards, 37 touchdowns and 11 interceptions and with Welker coming to Denver, his stats might only get better. This is really 2A and 2B, more than anything else.

4. Drew Brees, Saints: You could argue that Brees is higher and maybe he'll be after a year that features a better defense and the return of Sean Payton. Still, Brees threw for more than 5,000 yards for the second-straight season and threw for 43 touchdowns in 2012. His completion percentage (63) was lower and interceptions (19) were higher than you'd like to see from him though.

The next group

5. Eli Manning, Giants: Yeah, yeah. You can't spell "Elite" without "Eli." And with his second Super Bowl ring in 2011, the younger Manning proves he belongs. But I'm cutting the list a little shorter for these purposes, and I feel justified after Eli "only" threw for 3,948 yards and 26 touchdowns (along with 15 interceptions) in a slightly down season that saw the Giants miss the playoffs. I'd still be more than happy riding Manning as my franchise guy.

6. Matt Ryan, Falcons: Finally broke free of the stupid "can't win a playoff game" burden during a monster season that featured 4,719 passing yards, a 68.6 completion percentage and 32 touchdowns. With Julio Jones and Roddy White in the fold again, Ryan could push the 5K yardage marker in 2013. He's much closer to elite than people give him credit for.

7. Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers: Big Ben's stats don't tell the whole story from 2012 -- he changed offensive coordinators, didn't really have Mike Wallace in the fold the whole time and suffered injuries that led to him starting only 13 games. Even still, he had 3,265 passing yards, 26 touchdowns and only eight interceptions. Should be primed for another Big Ben season in 2013.

8. Tony Romo, Cowboys: Maybe the most maligned quarterback on this list, Romo has no postseason success. But he did just throw for 4,903 yards while completing 65.6 percent of his passes. His 19 picks tied a career high but his team put him in consistently bad spots. He's not nearly as bad as people want to believe. Romo has run roughshod into bad luck consistently in his career and neither his defense nor his general manager have ever done him any real favors -- other than handing him monster contracts.

9. Joe Flacco, Ravens: Using only postseason stats, Flacco would be in the top five. But we've got to take more than that into account, and Flacco's 3,817 yards, 59.7 completion percentage and 22 touchdowns (albeit with 10 picks) just don't move the needle enough. It'll be interesting to see how people would view those stats -- or similar ones -- in 2013 after Flacco signed his monster deal.

Ready for a leap?

10. Cam Newton, Panthers: Newton's 2012 doesn't get its due because expectations were high and people wanted him to fail. But Newton caught fire during the second half of the season and I think we'll see him make a jump into the next group this coming season. The biggest concern has to be his lack of weapons -- Steve Smith is aging, Brandon LaFell needs to improve, Greg Olsen is underrated but not entirely dynamic ... and there are too many running backs on the roster. Plus, Rob Chudzinski left Carolina for Cleveland. The latter terrifies me, but Cam has all the tools to put together a complete season in 2013. Just don't expect the critics to stop complaining until the Panthers produce a winning season, which might be tough with their defense.

11. Matthew Stafford, Lions: Stafford nearly put up 5,000 yards again, but 20 touchdowns and 17 interceptions is no good (even though, yes, I know Calvin Johnson was always tackled at the 1-yard line). Stafford regressed a little bit, but is still a stud quarterback. So it's weird asking for a "leap" out of Stafford since he's put up big numbers over the course of a year. Perhaps "rebound" is a better word.

Young guns

12. Russell Wilson, Seahawks: Wilson should've been the 2013 Rookie of the Year and I'm aware it's blasphemy to take him over the other two big-time rookies in this class. But three things separate Wilson for me. His decision-making is phenomenal (as is his poise in the pocket) and it only got better as the season wore on. That was incredibly impressive. I also think Wilson's ability to run multiple offenses -- he's done so for years now -- gives him a leg up on the other two rookies. And his combination of running ability plus durability puts him over the top. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to buy a hose for the flame war that's about to pop up in the comments.

13. Andrew Luck, QB, Colts: Luck's a stud and he's going to be a stud for years to come. He's going to "regress" in 2013 with a change in offensive coordinators, as Pep Hamilton comes over from Stanford. That's actually not a bad thing, because it'll mean fewer interceptions and a higher completion percentage. An improved defense and offensive line should involve less passing attempts and less shootouts/high-volume comebacks. That'll add up to a better season that people will question because of his stats. But the real reason Luck's not first among this young group? Too many mistakes in 2012. He had a ton on his shoulders with that Colts franchise, but he also wasn't entirely steady throughout the year and had some back-breaking mistakes down the stretch. He'll be fine, of course, and this spot simply reflects personal preference.

14. Colin Kaepernick, 49ers: Kaep nearly won a Super Bowl last year, so it's no stretch to think he could lead a team to one in 2013. What I want to see is whether or not his stats from reasonably limited action in 2012 carry over and extrapolate to 2013. Kaepernick can wing it like few others and can throw on the run. He mostly makes smart decisions and he turned Michael Crabtree into a legit No. 1 weapon when he took over in the middle of 2012. He's one of the most intriguing story lines in the NFL heading into 2013.

15. Robert Griffin III, ********: Can I get a big, fat asterisk for this selection? I can't possibly leave RG3 out of this group, but he's also dealing with an ACL injury suffered in the playoffs last season that very much makes 2013 a gigantic question mark. When healthy, Griffin's one of the most dynamic playmakers we've seen in a long time. He took the lowly ******** back to the playoffs and he did it with a combination of deadly accurate passing and awe-inspiring running. Healthy weapons and an improved defense and, most importantly, Griffin being healthy, should equate to another big season.

In limbo

16. Philip Rivers, Chargers: So sue me, I still believe. There's not much of a reason to trust Rivers, who has approximately 5 million turnovers in the past two years. But I don't like to put the blame on Rivers as much as I do coaching and personnel decisions: playmakers like Darren Sproles and Vincent Jackson departed and were replaced by guys like Ryan Mathews and Robert Meachem. Antonio Gates is older. Prior to drafting D.J. Fluker, Rivers' offensive line was just flat-out offensive. With Mike McCoy running the ship, I think Rivers can bounce back. The Chargers might not be a great -- or even good -- team in 2013, but I think Rivers reminds us that he's a capable franchise quarterback.

17. Josh Freeman, Buccaneers: What can I say? I'm a bigger believer than Greg Schiano. Freeman is still really young and no one seems to realize this -- he's played four full seasons and only turned 25 in January. There is still time for him to blossom and recreate the magic he flashed in a very impressive 2010.

18. Sam Bradford, Rams: For the first time since he entered the NFL, Bradford will be surrounded by actual talent (other than Steven Jackson). Jake Long immediately improves a porous offensive line and the additions of Jared Cook, Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey to a group that includes Brian Quick and Chris Givens should allow Bradford to blossom.

19. Jay Cutler, Bears: Some will probably argue that Cutler should be higher, and maybe he will be after Marc Trestman actually allows him to sling the ball. For a long time, Cutler's been hampered by playing under a defense-first organization that liked to focus on the run. He's also got an offensive line that won't do its best running-of-the-bulls imitation in 2013.

20. Ryan Tannehill, Dolphins: Maybe I'm too low on Tannehill here? We'll find out when he gets some actual weapons in 2013 thanks to the Dolphins addition of Mike Wallace, Brandon Gibson, plus their decision to bring back Brian Hartline. The running game could suffer in 2013 without Reggie Bush, although many folks believe Lamar Miller can break out in a big way. If Tannehill is indeed the most-improved quarterback in the game in his sophomore campaign, he'll rocket up this list.

21. Michael Vick, Eagles: Twice upon a time Vick's been a quarterback destined for greatness. But his inability to protect the football and stay healthy has him on thin ice in Philadelphia; he could very much end up thriving in Chip Kelly's up-tempo offense and surge up this list, but as it stands right now, there are too many issues with Vick's ball security, accuracy, ability to read defenses and age to completely trust him.

22. Alex Smith, Chiefs: Another one of the big-time story lines heading into 2013, Smith will be fascinating to watch in Andy Reid's system. Reid maintains he's always had his eye on Smith and we'll see if he's right about his belief that Smith will work in his system. It's a logical pairing since Smith protects the ball, the Chiefs should be able to run and he can be accurate on short and medium throws. But is he the guy for the long haul the way Reid seems to think? Dunno about that, and I'd like to see him out from under the magic wand of Jim Harbaugh before I'm convinced.

23. Matt Schaub, Texans: This may seem unfair given how close Schaub and Houston have come to making it to the Super Bowl. But their success isn't about the quarterback -- it's about the system and running the ball and playing defense. The Texans gave Schaub a four-year extension in 2012 and it may be a decision they'll regret soon. Schaub's a very nice quarterback, but is he someone who's going to win a Super Bowl without a stout running game and a big-time defense? I really don't think so.

Put up or shut up

23. Andy Dalton, Bengals: This is a harsh spot for a quarterback who's been to the playoffs twice in two seasons since being drafted in the second round. But despite Dalton's success, I have questions about whether he could simply step into any situation and produce at a high level. He's got A.J. Green in Cincinnati and a great defense and with the addition of Tyler Eifert and Giovanni Bernard, has a pretty loaded stable of weapons to improve. He's got plenty of people who back him, but more who criticize him, and he'll need to take a step forward to justify more faith.

24. Christian Ponder, Vikings: Ponder's got a playoff trip under his belt but there have to be concerns about his viability as a franchise passer: even without big-time weapons staying healthy the whole season (see: Percy Harvin), he still had the benefit of passing in an offense that revolved around Adrian Peterson. That makes life pretty, pretty easy and Ponder still didn't produce monster numbers. With Cordarrelle Patterson and Greg Jennings on board now -- everyone, including teammate Jared Allen -- knows that Ponder has to be the man.

25. Jake Locker, Titans: Locker's athleticism has a wow factor to it, but at the same time his accuracy leaves a LOT to be desired. He's been injured some but now has to step up and be a franchise passer, the one the Titans took in the first round. With Andy Levitre coming over in free agency, Chance Warmack added via the draft and Chris Johnson theoretically prepared for a big year, there's really no reason why Locker, who has ample weapons around him, can't step up and have a strong season.

Grizzled

26. Carson Palmer, Cardinals: Feels like Palmer's been around forever and it feels like he's not considered the same talent he once was. Oh, right. He's not. That's why he was traded for peanuts from Arizona to Oakland. Palmer produced a big season with the Raiders last year, but I don't know that I trust his arm strength or decision making to produce the way he did when he would've once been considered on top of this list.

27. Brandon Weeden, Browns: It's unfair to have a put-up-or-shut-up season at Weeden's age, but ... yeah, he's actually older than the No. 1 guy on this list. And he's dealing with a new regime. I liked Weeden's rookie year but didn't see him progress the way I would like. That gives me reason for concern.

28. Blaine Gabbert, Jaguars: BIG season coming for him now that he's got help on the line and the receivers; failing under a new regime means he's probably done in Jacksonville.

30. Geno Smith or Mark Sanchez, Jets: This is where things start to get ugly. My money is on Geno to win the job and for Sanchez to eventually get discarded by a new regime in New York.

31. Matt Flynn or Tyler Wilson, Raiders: The last time Flynn tried to beat out a rookie named Wilson, how did things work out?

32. EJ Manuel or Kevin Kolb, Bills: Maybe this will work out down the road, but I don't see it happening right now.

And from NFL.com:

Last week, my Around The League colleague Dan Hanzus unveiled his list of the NFL's top running backs.

That Herculean effort was met with a swirl of wonder, agitation and pressing questions, so, naturally, we're back for more.

This week, I humbly offer you my compilation of the NFL's top quarterbacks.

The ground rules are simple: Taking rookies out of the mix, I ranked signal-callers from top to bottom based on how I believe they'll perform in 2013.

I am prepared to be pistol-whipped by readers, coworkers, friends and family.

Off we travel:

THREE KINGS

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Peyton Manning
3. Tom Brady

Age to age, these men deliver. What Rodgers has accomplished since his Super Bowl-winning season of 2010 is even more impressive when you factor in the lack of a potent ground game and often subpar protection. I was among those who thought a neck-surgery-addled Manning wouldn't be the same guy. Instead, he was better, and he'll do it again in 2013. As for Brady, I won't be surprised when documents unearthed in 2077 reveal that Tom was, in fact, a robot patched together by a team of frustrated Foxborough-area scientists. His mission: To wreak havoc forever on the AFC East and merge with a dangerously attractive female humanoid.


FRANCHISE GOLD

4. Drew Brees
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Matt Ryan
7. Eli Manning

Roethlisberger, in my eyes, is the toughest quarterback in all of football. Eli comes off a down year, but I'm done doubting him. Brees is a flat-out executioner. With five Lombardis between them, these three have proven they can go the distance. Ryan hasn't, but he's coming off a monster season and sits out there as legitimate MVP material. It's no coincidence that the coaches teamed with these passers -- Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin, Mike Smith and Tom Coughlin -- are in zero danger of losing their jobs.


THE FUTURE, PART I

8. Andrew Luck
9. Robert Griffin III

Luck took a beating last season behind Indy's patchwork line, but he kept getting back up. In that sense, he reminds me of Roethlisberger. He might ultimately be the finest of the 2012 class. In Washington, I'm assuming RG3's knee regains full strength and allows him to spin his magic all over again. It's easy to get lost in Griffin's abilities on the ground, but his pocket presence, decision-making and crisp mechanics make him a top-10 passer.


THE FUTURE, PART II

10. Colin Kaepernick
11. Russell Wilson
12. Cam Newton

Gregg Rosenthal informs me that I've given too much love to the newbies. I disagree. Last year's rookies -- and the schemes they operated -- altered the game. Wilson is a thing of beauty: technically clean, a fiery leader, never cowed by the moment. Kaepernick won me over during that chaotic first half of the NFC title game. He never panicked. Nothing about either player tells me they'll regress. Newton -- entering a huge year three -- sits at No. 12 because his physical tools are insane. So much pure ability. Cam can chart his fate, for better or worse.


SOLID DUDES

13. Joe Flacco
14. Tony Romo
15. Matthew Stafford
16. Jay Cutler

Citizens of Baltimore: Hear me out. Admittedly, Flacco's place on this list haunts me. His work in the playoffs was otherworldly. I might eat raven on this one, but I can't wait to see where Flacco goes in 2013. I also struggled placing Romo this low, but how much higher should he be? I don't blame Romo for the mess in Dallas, but he isn't saving the day, either. Stafford is still too inconsistent. And quick: List five truly memorable performances by Cutler. A tough group to grade.


CRITICAL SEASONS AHEAD

17. Philip Rivers
18. Alex Smith
19. Ryan Tannehill

Rivers is an aging but tough-as-nails quarterback. Still, I'm not certain he's even on the Chargers in 2014 if he doesn't rebound from back-to-back down seasons. Smith's work in San Francisco was underrated. His handling of the situation was even more impressive. Tannehill, in his second season, will shoot up this list if he clicks with Miami's new toys.


TRICK OR TREAT

20. Matt Schaub
21. Sam Bradford
22. Andy Dalton

There's hope for this group, because this tier is where Flacco lived a year ago. Still, Schaub and Dalton -- playoff quarterbacks both -- leave me wanting. Dameshek has a growing man-crush on the Glowing Ginger Man, but I don't see it. Schaub concerns me, too. In summary: two big bowls of vanilla ice cream. Down in St. Louis, the Rams have paid Bradford $50 million guaranteed, and it's still unclear if he's the right guy. All three quarterbacks are surrounded by talent. Time to make it happen.


STOPGAPS

23. Michael Vick
24. Carson Palmer

In theory, Vick gives coach Chip Kelly a quarterback who can run his up-tempo offense. In reality, does anyone trust Vick to stay on two feet past September? People talk about Palmer's big numbers in Oakland, but the Raiders eternally played from 20 points down during his run. Carson's not the future for the Cardinals -- or any team.


HOW CAN I TRUST YOU?

25. Josh Freeman
26. Christian Ponder
27. Jake Locker
28. Nick Foles
29. Kevin Kolb
30. Matt Hasselbeck

Ponder has been wonderful as an 'Adrian Peterson Handoff Machine 1.0,' but we need to see him take over games. Kolb can't go a fortnight without breaking a body part, and we're still waiting for Locker to exit the starting gate. Foles showed promise last season, but he's mired in a jam-packed quarterback room. In Indy, that song you hear? It's the closing credits on Hasselbeck's proud career. Of the group, it's Freeman who intrigues me most. He caught fire last season, before falling to pieces. As it stands, he's a candidate to lose his job in 2013.


JAG

31. Matt Cassel
32. Ryan Fitzpatrick
33. Brandon Weeden
34. Blaine Gabbert
35. Mark Sanchez

We're back with this Hanzus-inspired category: JAG, as in, just another guy. These are gentlemen on the fringe of a promising career at CVS. Apologies, Jets fans, but I don't have a problem ranking Sanchez this low. He's been a statistical train wreck ever since Gang Green abandoned the ground and pound. ESPN's Chris Mortensen this week spoke with league sources who insist Sanchez "is not throwing the ball as well as he was as a rookie." I'd argue that if Sanchez and Blaine Gabbert were both available, just as many clubs would take a chance on Gabbert, thinking they could fix him. Sanchez needs a full reboot. Weeden might fight his way out of this group if he takes off under Rob Chudzinski. If he doesn't, he'll be looking for work.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000200131/article/ranking-the-nfl-quarterbacks
I'll share my thoughts later. Let the debates begin!!! Woo!!!
 
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Matt :smh: :smh:

Dude **** the bed end of last year :smh: :smh:

I'm gonna be real interested to see which one of the young QBs from last year continues on or slumps

( Luck, RG3, Trillson, Colin)
 
will read in detail later, but 651, you always do a good job with these write-ups :pimp:
 
I'm gonna be real interested to see which one of the young QBs from last year continues on or slumps

( Luck, RG3, Trillson, Colin)


I think Luck and Wilson take the biggest and most noticeable jumps in progress. Much of the same from RGIII and Colin. Tannehill will struggle.


Matt Ryan should not be in the next group category.


Oh, but he should. He's one of the premiere Q's in the game, my friend.



will read in detail later, but 651, you always do a good job with these write-ups :pimp:


Thanks. My write-ups will come later.
 
I think the Dolphins have a really good year and Tannehill will be a big part of it.

Josh Freeman is in a contract year...he's basically in charge of his destiny right now and has been given everything needed for him to succeed this year. So let's see what he does with it.

Atleast one of those young guns are gonna struggle this year. I like all of them though so it's hard for me to say right now which one it'll be.
 
I'm gonna say now That Luck And Bob(if healthy) will out shine the rest if the young guns.

And I really wanna see what Wilson does in his second year. I'm not fully a believer yet.
 
You don't think any of those young guns are gonna struggle 651?

I do. I think Tannehill struggles and I think RGIII and Kaep go through the normal ups and downs that QB's see after bursting onto the scene as a rookie or their first full year of action.

RGIII mainly because he's spending so much time rehabilitating his knee and that takes more of his focus this offseason as opposed to guys like Russ and Luck who are preparing themselves much more mentally. A lot of that rookie season success from quarterbacks come from their athletic ability and innate football IQ. When you start adding the knowledge about the nuances of the game that can only be learned through experience and then by film study, you become a lot more skilled and a better all-around quarterback. Luck and Wilson are mastering that as we speak. I don't think Tannehill is quite on that level.

With Kaep, there has been limited blueprints about how to go about stopping him, so once a few teams figure out ways to slow him down or make him change the way he plays, then you'll see Kaepernick struggle a bit. Once he has enough film on the defenses and defensive schemes that were successful at stopping or slowing him, then he can start growing as a quarterback, because as an athlete, he's one of the best around.
 
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Very good write up!


As far as Luck goes, I think he takes the leap forward. With Pep here now, the INTs will go down and the completion percentage will go up. Need Fleener to improve though. The two tight end set is crucial and the OL and Fleener has got to progress.
 
Dude writing that article contradicting himself.

the defining criteria for this list is that I've picked, in order with one or two quarterbacks from each team, the signal caller who I think gives me the best chance to win a Super Bowl in 2013 if all things -- wideouts, offensive line, defense -- were created equal.
I give Brady the ever-so-slight edge on Peyton Manning here, mainly because I think that if you swapped their situations, Brady could put up some eye-popping numbers.
 
luck's rookie year was incredible. outside of wayne, that offense was street free agents. pass rush was constantly on him, eye level never dropped. if he progresses even incrementally, top 5

but yeah, we're living in a golden age of quarterbacking, feels good
 
luck's rookie year was incredible. outside of wayne, that offense was street free agents. pass rush was constantly on him, eye level never dropped. if he progresses even incrementally, top 5

but yeah, we're living in a golden age of quarterbacking, feels good
im all for giving praise but luck def wasnt surrounded by "street free agents"
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Avery was the only "street" FA and he still had Wayne.

Luck's INT should drop down and once they retool that defense they should be scary team.

i want to see how Colin, Russell and RG3 progress, once that blue print comes out and they cant out athlete everyone else when they have to stay in the pocket and make those tough throws.

I feel like the phins are gonna be worse down in Miami. Not all Tannys fault, but idk.
 
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That caught my attention too. :lol: Avery was the only FA from the bunch.

T.Y. will be a real good one and I still like Brazill a lot, even though his rookie year didn't produce very good numbers.
 
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Great write up, you could really start a blog about this stuff.

I really hope Josh Freeman gets it going this year, I want him to be the Bucs QB for a long time to come.

He has two very good deep threats, but we need a third wr to step up and be the intermediate guy, however a good QB will make it work.
 
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