NFL Quarterbacks Discussion thread: 2013 Edition

Drew gets the nod for looking the coolest. How he throws the ball with his head up, his follow through, and the trajectory he puts on his throws. Brees is awesome.
 
And we can thank Brady for defensive players not being allowed to breathe on QB's now.

you mean at not being allowed to dive at the knees of QBs...don't exaggerate it too much there, my man

the headshot and contact to the head on QB calls have nothing to do with TB12


The problem is the NFL didn't stop at protecting knees or head injuries. I know that's your boy but lets be real, him getting hurt plus him and other OB's crying for flags is part of the reason why the game is a lot softer when it comes to hitting QB's.
 
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Exactly. Brady is notorious for crying/complaining to officials during the game. Even if a defender is looking in Brady's direction.
 
Only certain QBs get the calls which is worse. Ben rarely gets the flag thrown, same as 'running QBs'. But then Tom or Drew get those same hits flags come flung. NFL at its finest
 
And we can thank Brady for defensive players not being allowed to breathe on QB's now.
For a minute I forgot they had Turner. That team under Marty really was stacked.

That 06 chargers team was real strong. I think they would've won the Super Bowl that year had they not imploded in the 4th quarter against New England.

They woulda had Indy in the afc title game. A team they beat the next 2 seasons in the playoffs, beat in 05 when the colts were 13-0. Indy just didn't play well against the chargers during that time. 05-10. Had they not made a few dumb plays in that 4th quarter. Hell any of the top 4 teams in the afc would've beaten the bears in the Super Bowl that year.

Hell I woulda been on the fence about picking San Diego to have won had they not choked to the jets in 09 as well
 
Thinkin his point was yet another one and done, home playoff loss for Peyton, to an 8-8 squad.

That Wild Card Giants team went on to win another Super Bowl a couple years later.

8-8 Chargers never really did anything significant the next few years.

Don't worry tho, Super Bowl losses for Tom count the same as record breaking amount of one and dones......at home. In the interest of absolving anything and everything Peyton. :lol:
 
The great Tom Brady lost to a wild card the year he went 16-0 what's your point?

Colts losing to the 8-8 chargers as the number one seed isn't the same thing as the Pats losing to the NFC winners in the Super Bowl :rolleyes

They were the 5 seed that year... Titans had homefield.

Regardless, Colts were on a 9 game winning streak, they shouldve beat SD that year.
 
I put some blame on Dungy for resting the starters year after year when it showed it clearly didn't help Peyton and co. Ruined perfect season chances along with momentum
 
I put some blame on Dungy for resting the starters year after year when it showed it clearly didn't help Peyton and co. Ruined perfect season chances along with momentum

The years they had a bye it did damage almost every time. 99 jim mora was the coach and rested everyone week 17 and they got smacked by buffalo and proceeded to lose to the titans in the divisional round. Ill give em a pass for that game. Tennessee was a 13-3 wild card, went to the Super Bowl and that colts team overachieved all year long.

05 the divisional round loss to Pittsburgh after resting their starters weeks 16 and 17 was flat out unacceptable. Indy was the better team that year. They choked.

07. Rested their starters week 17 against the titans. Proceed to lose to the chargers who were missing Phillip rivers and Tomlinson for quite a bit of the 2nd half. Again they choked and denied us possibly one of the best afc title games of all time. Defending champ colts vs the undefeated patriots.

09 rested their starters the 2nd half of week 16 against the jets (blowing a potential 16-0 season in the process) and against buffalo week 17. They went to the Super Bowl although resting the starters nearly came back to bite them when they were losing 17-6 to the jets in the afc title game before shonn Greene got hurt and the running game got shut down and Sanchez had to throw more.

I don't recall if Denver rested its starters week 17 last season but that approach has been counterproductive. Aside from 09 Peyton led teams with a first round bye lose every time and perhaps resting their players and getting rusty played a role. Some of those years before their divisional game, the starters didn't play meaningful time in 3-4 weeks because Indy had things wrapped up so early.

On another note, I think 08 was a huge missed opportunity for Indy. Had they beat San Diego I woulda liked their chances against anyone else in the afc. They started slow that season but were playing the best football out of anyone in the league going into the playoffs. San Diego was just their kryptonite those years.
 
And we can thank Brady for defensive players not being allowed to breathe on QB's now.

you mean at not being allowed to dive at the knees of QBs...don't exaggerate it too much there, my man

the headshot and contact to the head on QB calls have nothing to do with TB12


The problem is the NFL didn't stop at protecting knees or head injuries. I know that's your boy but lets be real, him getting hurt plus him and other OB's crying for flags is part of the reason why the game is a lot softer when it comes to hitting QB's.

i can agree...because you mentioned "other QB's crying for flags". at least you're not blinded by some ridiculous personal bias unlike others on here. they all do it and all look for flags. watch a manning brother whenever any pass hits the ground. hands up in the air. but the larger point is that the league is headed (and i guess is already there) toward making the game pass happy, so they're protecting QBs and making life easier on them, all of them. just like DBs have been locked down in terms how they can defend. has nothing to do with just TB12.
 
Thinkin his point was yet another one and done, home playoff loss for Peyton, to an 8-8 squad.

That Wild Card Giants team went on to win another Super Bowl a couple years later.

8-8 Chargers never really did anything significant the next few years.

Don't worry tho, Super Bowl losses for Tom count the same as record breaking amount of one and dones......at home. In the interest of absolving anything and everything Peyton. :lol:

Two superbowl losses to a 9-7 team. yeah....
 
:lol: @ "9-7 team"

once again, no context whatsoever. acting like those giant teams didn't knock off just about every top dog in the NFC to get to the SB :lol:
 
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i joked about it earlier, but dungy resting starters with a perfect record on the line is a head scratcher. i get it, it's the right thing for the team's season long goal. but still...tough to eat that as a fan. has to be.

any colt fans here care to share how they felt about it? unless i missed it earlier :nerd:
 
:lol: @ "9-7 team"

once again, no context whatsoever. acting like those giant teams didn't knock off just about every top dog in the NFC to get to the SB :lol:
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So what? 9-7 .... you think those giant teams were great? hell those defenses weren't even that great. got hot in the playoffs and now they were some juggernaut the the super hero tom brady couldn't beat. C'mon son. 9-7 is 9-7 no matter how u cut it...
 
It killed them in 05. LeBeau had a masterful game but Peyton and that team were VERY rusty early and allowed Pitt to grab the lead and then just hold on. Never understood why Tony kept doing that when it was clear those teams were better when they kept playing. I think that had a big part in Peyton's '1 and dones'
 
It killed them in 05. LeBeau had a masterful game but Peyton and that team were VERY rusty early and allowed Pitt to grab the lead and then just hold on. Never understood why Tony kept doing that when it was clear those teams were better when they kept playing. I think that had a big part in Peyton's '1 and dones'

yeah agree 100% on rust. momentum heading into january is huge. i dunno if it's a BIG part of why they lost, but it can easily be considered a factor.
 
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I obviously don't remember all of the Colts playoff games but I'm confident in saying that was a MAJOR reason they lost in 05. That Colts team was better and it showed when they played earlier in the year. Colts fan....'.leeeeeet me hear from you'
 
i mean there is a pretty common pattern with those colt teams in the playoffs...and mixed in there is a couple years of extra rest. the result was almost always similar or the same. so i dunno. i think there's more to it than just resting guys. you'd have to think if it was that huge a factor, peyton would have spoken up as well the next time around.
 
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:lol: @ "9-7 team"

once again, no context whatsoever. acting like those giant teams didn't knock off just about every top dog in the NFC to get to the SB :lol:
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So what? 9-7 .... you think those giant teams were great? hell those defenses weren't even that great. got hot in the playoffs and now they were some juggernaut the the super hero tom brady couldn't beat. C'mon son. 9-7 is 9-7 no matter how u cut it...

So, the team that beat 3 other NFC playoff teams, twice, then NE, twice, was a plain and simple 9-7? :lol:
But those lovable one and done 12-13 win Colts are somehow more acceptable than how Brady and the Pats lost? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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