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so these atcii retros should have come with the jumbo tags not the thin
but nike started messin it up on other retro models years ago[/quote]
not true


my original pair of nike air tech challenge ii's that i purchased in 1990 came with the 'jumbo' or thicker nike air hang tag


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the tag you see in the pic is the actual original tag that came with the shoes...
...now...i have noticed (on the atscii for instance) that nike gave a different tag to the high & the low (thin for one, jumbo for the other)
(some models like the aj4 i've seen with both tags depending on production date i believe)

but i believe with the original atcii - both the high & the low came with the jumbo tag...


Finally tho - the thin tag came first, not the jumbo - the thin tags came with 1987 models like the air max & air trainer as well as 1988 models like the air jordan 3


so these atcii retros should have come with the jumbo tags not the thin
but nike started messin it up on other retro models years ago

Thanks for proving my point. There were no slim hang tags on mine either! :D
 
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so these atcii retros should have come with the jumbo tags not the thin
but nike started messin it up on other retro models years ago
Thanks for proving my point. There were no slim hang tags on mine either! :D[/quote]

Yup, there were no slim tags I dunno who came up with that conclusion. I owned the original men's clay 3/4 tech challenge II and it didn't come with the slim tag it came with the bubble tag, I remember putting it on a chain and wearing it lol
 
I'm saying that back then they were referred to as the "tarts" by sneakerheads and tennis players. I'm sure Nike didn't label them as such.


I owned the OG of this shoe and never once heard anyone refer to them as "tarts". I can't say no one in the world, but I've never heard that nickname thrown around back in the day. When they originally released people just referred to them as the Agassi's.
 
@green rhino123
  That's awesome that you still have your original pair. Definitely makes me wish I had kept some of mine from that era. Thanks for the knowledge about the tags; I just remember being fascinated by the Nike Air hang tags as a kid, especially the jumbo ones. I remember thinking that I needed to get some sneakers with the thick hang tag since that must have meant they were the top of the line. Most of the time it was a pipe dream because of the prices until I got a bit older.


i recently threw away my og lows....but kept da jumbo hang tag & arch supports!

yes - threw them in da trash - yall see the condition
 
I owned the OG of this shoe and never once heard anyone refer to them as "tarts". I can't say no one in the world, but I've never heard that nickname thrown around back in the day. When they originally released people just referred to them as the Agassi's.


nah son, i was rockin deez tarts along wit da raptor 7's waaay before toronto stole my shine
was rockin raptors in 89 son!
 
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Ditto, we simply called these Agassi's and just differentiated by color....never a nickname.
 
I owned the OG of this shoe and never once heard anyone refer to them as "tarts". I can't say no one in the world, but I've never heard that nickname thrown around back in the day. When they originally released people just referred to them as the Agassi's.
100% correct.  It wasn't until the "Rebel Pack" came out in 2008 that nike referred to the orange color featured on the sneakers as tart.  The pack featured the ATC II and Air Max 97s done in the tart/clay blue color scheme.  The tart/clay blue air max 97s from that pack are actually one of my favorite pairs of 97s that I own.  They have a few subtle nods to the tech challange line featured in the design, most noticeably the insole.  There was also a pair of air force 1 lows that mimicked the orange/clay blue colorway, but that orange was referred to as "total orange".  

But like you and @green rhino123  have stated, tart was never a nickname or color reference during the ATC original run.
 
I owned the OG of this shoe and never once heard anyone refer to them as "tarts". I can't say no one in the world, but I've never heard that nickname thrown around back in the day. When they originally released people just referred to them as the Agassi's.

I couldn't find a tennis player that didn't call em the "tarts" back then. It was not a name given to them by Nike, just by tennis players that wore them. If you were only a sneakerhead and not a tennis player, I'm sure you didn't hear it. Even in 08 that was the word people used but whatever. No big deal.
 
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I couldn't find a tennis player that didn't call em the "tarts" back then. It was not a name given to them by Nike, just by tennis players that wore them. If you were only a sneakerhead and not a tennis player, I'm sure you didn't hear it. Even in 08 that was the word people used but whatever. No big deal.

They were referred to as the tarts in 08 because that color was on the box for the retro either way like you said no biggie I'm sure certain areas had different nicknames for them and since I wasn't a world traveler back in the day I can only call it like it was where I lived
 
100% correct.  It wasn't until the "Rebel Pack" came out in 2008 that nike referred to the orange color featured on the sneakers as tart.  The pack featured the ATC II and Air Max 97s done in the tart/clay blue color scheme.  The tart/clay blue air max 97s from that pack are actually one of my favorite pairs of 97s that I own.  They have a few subtle nods to the tech challange line featured in the design, most noticeably the insole.  There was also a pair of air force 1 lows that mimicked the orange/clay blue colorway, but that orange was referred to as "total orange".  

But like you and @green rhino123
 have stated, tart was never a nickname or color reference during the ATC original run.

Completely not true. Tell that to the people that were playing at Bollettieri and all of the tennis camps around the country back when they released.
 
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They were referred to as the tarts in 08 because that color was on the box for the retro either way like you said no biggie I'm sure certain areas had different nicknames for them and since I wasn't a world traveler back in the day I can only call it like it was where I lived

Exactly. Not EVERYONE will have heard that nickname. But being a tennis player, that was the most widely used name that I had heard. That doesn't make it official.
 
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I think it was a regional thing (though I didn't live in the US at the time).  For me back in the day, we used to call them the "the pink Agassi's".  Of course, we later started to refer them by their proper name.  I guess sneaker-monikers were much simpler back then for us... the pink Agassi's... the orange Agassi's... the yellow Agassi's... 
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As for "tart", I never really called them that... Didn't really use the name till the '08 Rebel Pack... 

The AM97-side of that tart-pack.

air-max-97-tart-blue.jpg
 
 
I think it was a regional thing (though I didn't live in the US at the time).  For me back in the day, we used to call them the "the pink Agassi's".  Of course, we later started to refer them by their proper name.  I guess sneaker-monikers were much simpler back then for us... the pink Agassi's... the orange Agassi's... the yellow Agassi's... 
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As for "tart", I never really called them that... Didn't really use the name till the '08 Rebel Pack... 

The AM97-side of that tart-pack.

air-max-97-tart-blue.jpg
Yup, the air max 97s from that pack were such an underrated colorway.  I'll take some pics of the insole this weekend.  It features a pattern similar to that of the one on the ATC shirts and head bands.  Pretty cool that Nike went the extra mile to do that for these.

@KB24strikesagain  I see where you're coming from.  There's so many different regional nicknames for sneakers, particularly amongst subgroups like team sports.  
 
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