Police shoot unarmed man in back of head 5 times

I guess if the cops story seems plausible to you all then I'm just a crazy fool. If you and your 2 of your friends are in a room with a person and you all have submachines guns and the person has nothing, does it seem at all likely that the person will be able to do what the police say Terrance did? Keep in mind you have been trained and the other person hasn't.

The kid wasn't facing 20 years or life in prison, he had nothing illegal on him but he decides to commit suicide by grabbing a cops gun? I mean who grabs an MP5 thats pointed at them? Theres no reason this kid would want to die or think grabbing the gun would result in anything less than him being killed.

I know it may be difficult for some people to fathom that there are police officers who want to kill people, police officers that can't wait for the smallest excuse to shoot someone. The majority of police aren't that psychotic, but there are those out there

How do you know it was being pointed at him? How do you know there were other officers there when he took the gun?

There are a lot of details missing and there is no way you can come to a full conclusion until you know these details. So far, we can only go off of what we have been told. So by going off of what we've been told, dude got what he had coming.

If a guy is looking to end me, I will not just fire once and hope he's dead. I am going to empty the clip on that ***.

Again, you don't know the basement layout and how many officers entered the house/how they searched the house.
 
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I guess if the cops story seems plausible to you all then I'm just a crazy fool. If you and your 2 of your friends are in a room with a person and you all have submachines guns and the person has nothing, does it seem at all likely that the person will be able to do what the police say Terrance did? Keep in mind you have been trained and the other person hasn't.

The kid wasn't facing 20 years or life in prison, he had nothing illegal on him but he decides to commit suicide by grabbing a cops gun? I mean who grabs an MP5 thats pointed at them? Theres no reason this kid would want to die or think grabbing the gun would result in anything less than him being killed.

I know it may be difficult for some people to fathom that there are police officers who want to kill people, police officers that can't wait for the smallest excuse to shoot someone. The majority of police aren't that psychotic, but there are those out there



As someone who has been in combat, I can tell you auditory exclusion and tunnel vision play a huge factor in real life. Especially in CQB. Police are taught just the basics of that. So it's not hard to contemplate that things didn't happen just like you see in the movies or video games. Nothing ever goes according to plan. He was more than likely hiding behind something and grabbed the gun as they entered. As soon as he even went for the gun, he's completed the criteria for deadly force to be used. I've seen SEALs doing room clearing where the point man entered the room and the barrel of this gun was grabbed by the person and nearly jerked out of his hands. Things happen so fast in real life situations. The only thing suspicious to me is why he was shot in the head and not center mass.

He was a 22 year old man, not a kid. All that noise about "he would never do anything like this, he had no reason to do it" has been heard time and again.

And I know it may be difficult for you to fathom that there are people out there that want to kill police officers if they have the opportunity.

Also, you have an obligation to change your misleading thread title. Just like the media does with reporting stories the good things police do, and not always stories like these..
 
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Happened right by my girls crib. Here's the official story.


After fleeing on foot from police, 22 year old Terrence T. Franklin broke into a house to hide. Police entered the home after a burglary call and found Terrence in the basement. Terrence was able to wrestle an MP5 with shoulder strap away from an officer, shot 2 officers once in the leg each and was subsequently shot 5 times in the back of the head. The officers were allowed 2 weeks before they gave any statement due to the trauma and stress of being shot. Neighbors recorded officers on scene using racial slurs toward the victim. Police are denying any wrong doing whatsoever. And to top it off a motorcyclist was killed after a police car slammed into him at a stoplight on route to the scene 30 minutes after it happened.

http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/209608301.html


so...

dude wrestles a police officer down and acquires that officer's weapon.

then, decides to shoot 2 other officers...

sorry that's a reasonable kill in my opinion.

This.

Animals huh? :lol: Everytime a black man gets killed/beaten by the Cops, they are automatically animals, pigs, killers... ect.

But when a thread like this is made... http://niketalk.com/t/536267/man-be...-officers-during-arrest-witness-videos-seized

Nobody cares! HMMMMMMMmmmMMMMmmm.......................
 
I guess if the cops story seems plausible to you all then I'm just a crazy fool. If you and your 2 of your friends are in a room with a person and you all have submachines guns and the person has nothing, does it seem at all likely that the person will be able to do what the police say Terrance did? Keep in mind you have been trained and the other person hasn't.

The kid wasn't facing 20 years or life in prison, he had nothing illegal on him but he decides to commit suicide by grabbing a cops gun? I mean who grabs an MP5 thats pointed at them? Theres no reason this kid would want to die or think grabbing the gun would result in anything less than him being killed.

I know it may be difficult for some people to fathom that there are police officers who want to kill people, police officers that can't wait for the smallest excuse to shoot someone. The majority of police aren't that psychotic, but there are those out there

It seems like you're upset that they didnt kill him sooner. Is that basically what you're saying? Why didnt "the animals" just kill him when he went for the gun?

Youre picking apart the alleged story to fit your prejudice of cops.

You're trying to rationalize dude going for the gun saying it doesnt make sense. Yet you skip the previous events of him running and breaking into somebody elses house...How does that make sense to you?
 
Don't know what it's like in the US but here in Canada officers are suppose to have at least a shotgun in the front along with MP5 in the trunk.
 
Okay, since we're all assuming our own interpretations of what happened are true, what if the following happened:

The (Armed, because I don't think he would have ran the risk of breaking into someone's home unarmed to get his wig split on the off chance the owner had a gun.) suspect breaks into the house during his escape from the police. Residents of the home see him, call appropriate authorities and he subsequently retreats into the basement.

Authorities arrive, enter the basement ONE BY ONE on the steps, because, well, it is a basement after all. Suspect jumps the first officer and struggles with him/her ( Easily could have been a woman, which would explain how he wrestled the weapon from her). In the midst of their struggle, the weapon goes off, shooting two other officers in the leg (They never said he aimed and chose to shoot them in the leg.). Eventually the officer wrestles him away and once a reasonable shot is available, they shoot him as he is trying to flee again ( because, why would you stick around?). Considering they have MP5s, a case can be made that they have a "burst" mode, which we all know what that means from COD and the sort. This burst shot could account for the five shots to the head.

And as far as why police officers have mp5s, that is probably a standard procedure for a beach and clear type situation, you're not going to go into a basement with pistols when you have no idea what type of weapon the suspect is wielding.

But still, this is just a possibility I achieved through common sense abd critical thinking, not too far fetched now.......but you don't hear me, though..
 
Yeah, very misleading thread title to say the least. I'll wait to hear more credible citation before speculating on what happened based on reports from an "unknown source".

*On a side note:
I dare anyone of you COD punks to wrestle my MP5 away from me...
 
This.

Animals huh?
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Everytime a black man gets killed/beaten by the Cops, they are automatically animals, pigs, killers... ect.

But when a thread like this is made... http://niketalk.com/t/536267/man-be...-officers-during-arrest-witness-videos-seized

Nobody cares! HMMMMMMMmmmMMMMmmm.......................
OP was the 1st reply in that link tho...

Calling em animals

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hush little boy.or tell me the flaws in my post and please point out where i said i was in combat.
shooting someone 5 times in the back of the head isnt protocol..your taught to aim center mass(torso) and let off a double tap (two shots).

now, of course someone shooting at an officer deserves them to be pumped full of bullets...duh. but with 5 bullets in the back of the head, that raises a red flag. assuming he was surrounded, the second he touched an officers weapon that woulda been deemed enough to use deadly force.  in which case if all the officers opened up on him at once, unless it was an execution line, dude should have bullets holes in other places.

add to the fact that the officers STILL havent put out a statement, were allowed to take 2 weeks off, etc...thats shady as hell..

the cops will interview somebodies crying grandmother 1 hr after some thugs came in and killed her whole family...they wont give her two weeks to let the traumatic events boil down. 

not only that, EVERY COP that fires their weapon has to issue a report....and EVERY COP that uses deadly force is always investigated by internal affairs...

this wreaks of a cover up...when things dont add up, they usually arent all kosher..
 
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Yes cops have mp5s :lol: why is everyone so geeked off that. Should see them before they do a raid. Straight COD status. Most roll with ARs in the front here too.

Anyway not choosing sides but the cops here are known for being crooked as hell so it wouldn't surprise me if foul play gets found out later.
 
Soooooo... Cops got mp5s now?

Yes. When high issue warrants are executed and for raids the latter of which is a squirt gun compared to the weapons used in that situation. With the firepower available on the street a 9mm is useless in those scenarios.
 
Yes. When high issue warrants are executed and for raids the latter of which is a squirt gun compared to the weapons used in that situation. With the firepower available on the street a 9mm is useless in those scenarios.
news to Me. I thought they carried regular 9s.

Story sounds kinda farfetched though...

I'm not saying who's right
But come on g... Y'all know the stories change...

Especially since they had 2 weeks to get things in line
 
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dude deserved to die if he did in fact grab the gun. Whether or not he was armed prior.
 
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shooting someone 5 times in the back of the head isnt protocol..your taught to aim center mass(torso) and let off a double tap (two shots).


now, of course someone shooting at an officer deserves them to be pumped full of bullets...duh. but with 5 bullets in the back of the head, that raises a red flag. assuming he was surrounded, the second he touched an officers weapon that woulda been deemed enough to use deadly force.  in which case if all the officers opened up on him at once, unless it was an execution line, dude should have bullets holes in other places.




add to the fact that the officers STILL havent put out a statement, were allowed to take 2 weeks off, etc...thats shady as hell..

the cops will interview somebodies crying grandmother 1 hr after some thugs came in and killed her whole family...they wont give her two weeks to let the traumatic events boil down. 


not only that, EVERY COP that fires their weapon has to issue a report....and EVERY COP that uses deadly force is always investigated by internal affairs...


this wreaks of a cover up...when things dont add up, they usually arent all kosher..

I'm glad someone is being objective in here.

Default for most people, sheltered people I might add, is to believe what authority tells you. I'll admit I don't know what happened in that basement anymore than anyone else, but somehow I am way out of line and you all are right simply because you are running with the official story. Even though, when one is objective, neither story has any more credibility than the other. Experiences in my life have shown me that cops, teachers, religious leaders, can and do lie when it suits their interests. Authority figures aren't above criminal behavior simply because of their title. People place so much trust in others just cause they were able to work to gain a little power. The whole story seems beyond belief, yet it comes from a cops mouth and anyone who questions it is a fool. This unchecked power is what allows police to continue committing criminal acts, everyday.

This is not Chicago, LA or NY. This is Minnesota. There aren't hardened murders just walking around out here, **** is quiet for the most part. Dude was not a bad *** gangbanger or something, not to the point of trying to wrestle a machine gun away from someone, a cop no less. In peoples mind they think of a criminal and they think of a heartless thug with no regard for human life, so an act like this seems plausible. But in reality, just cause you have committed a crime or run from the police does not make you some monster who wants to kill people and do absolutely insane things like try to take a machine gun from a cop while cornered in a basement.
 
Lol at son using the term sheltered because most of this board has enough common sense to rationalize the actions of a piece of trash criminal who brought what he got upon himself.

That's Niketalk for you though.
 
All I'm saying is this... The cops were angry/scared and I'm fine with them dropping the whole clip into dude's body, but when all 5 shots ALL land in the back of dudes head, there's no way that he was wrestling. Dude was standing there and they took him out execution style. 2 weeks off though? More than enough time to meet with the lawyer and make their story.
 
I'm glad someone is being objective in here.

Default for most people, sheltered people I might add, is to believe what authority tells you. I'll admit I don't know what happened in that basement anymore than anyone else, but somehow I am way out of line and you all are right simply because you are running with the official story. Even though, when one is objective, neither story has any more credibility than the other. Experiences in my life have shown me that cops, teachers, religious leaders, can and do lie when it suits their interests. Authority figures aren't above criminal behavior simply because of their title. People place so much trust in others just cause they were able to work to gain a little power. The whole story seems beyond belief, yet it comes from a cops mouth and anyone who questions it is a fool. This unchecked power is what allows police to continue committing criminal acts, everyday.

This is not Chicago, LA or NY. This is Minnesota. There aren't hardened murders just walking around out here, **** is quiet for the most part. Dude was not a bad *** gangbanger or something, not to the point of trying to wrestle a machine gun away from someone, a cop no less. In peoples mind they think of a criminal and they think of a heartless thug with no regard for human life, so an act like this seems plausible. But in reality, just cause you have committed a crime or run from the police does not make you some monster who wants to kill people and do absolutely insane things like try to take a machine gun from a cop while cornered in a basement.

Son, where does it say he wasn't a hardened criminal? You have no idea what he did and why he was running away in the first place, just like we don't. But what makes your posts so ignorant is that you are just blindly ignoring the fact that you are trying to pass your own opinions off as fact. And anyone who doesn't is "sheltered".

You literally just said that you're using anecdotes to back your argument which, by definition, is not a sufficient basis for argument. And just because it's Minnesota, doesn't mean there aren't hardened murderers there. There are crazy ****** everywhere. It is just as possible that he was an upstanding member of society as it is that he was a crazy, deranged murderer. None of us knew him personally, but you feel the need to preach to us all how he was "innocent" even though he broke into someone's home and fled from the police. And I'm not saying he was Charles Manson or something, but he was obviously guilty of something bad enough to commit a subsequent crime.

Until an official report is released, we don't know what happened abd even then we may not know the truth. But to blindly accept that the police executed this random dude is rather foolish, in my opinion.

I will admit though, it is sketchy that they're waiting so long to release statements.
 
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So the cops shot themselves on the leg?

I might take a shot to the leg if that guaranteed some cool money.

but what if I can't walk after....
 
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