Help with Bait & Switch on eBay

brettnussb

brettnussb

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Apologize if this the wrong forum, but could not figure out a better forum to post. I have sold numerous deadstock Nike pairs of shoes on eBay without any issues besides the winner of auction not paying and then have to relist.

I acquired a very expensive, high-demand Nike pair today that is on the market for $1,500+. What can I do to prevent myself from the winner of the auction to fraud me and claim that I replaced the shoes out with another pair (their own) before I sent them? Is there any security measures to take to 110% prevent this? I am willing to pay as much insurance, etc as needed. 
 
have a friend film you shipping it off. from you packing the box up to you handing it over to the post office/ups/fed ex employee.
get signature confirmation & insurance worth worth the finale selling price.
i'd use UPS personally. **** the post office.
 
1)Sell them on flight club.
2)sell to a reputable person on NT
3)or...sell then on eBay like you planned but make sure the winner has great buyer feedback and a lot if it. No zero or low feedback bidders. Get signature confirmation on your shipment. Cross your fingers.
 
MissMyMoney said:
1)Sell them on flight club.
2)sell to a reputable person on NT
3)or...sell then on eBay like you planned but make sure the winner has great buyer feedback and a lot if it. No zero or low feedback bidders. Get signature confirmation on your shipment. Cross your fingers.
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all of dis
 
brettnussb said:
Apologize if this the wrong forum, but could not figure out a better forum to post. I have sold numerous deadstock Nike pairs of shoes on eBay without any issues besides the winner of auction not paying and then have to relist.

I acquired a very expensive, high-demand Nike pair today that is on the market for $1,500+. What can I do to prevent myself from the winner of the auction to fraud me and claim that I replaced the shoes out with another pair (their own) before I sent them? Is there any security measures to take to 110% prevent this? I am willing to pay as much insurance, etc as needed. 
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Quick answer, no. No matter what you take pics of, no matter what you videotape, it all comes down to the buyer. The buyer can always claim what they want.
 
theres really no way to protect yourself

you need to just stop being paranoid, no ones gonna bait and switch. can it happen? sure but relax

just get signature confirmation and insurance
 
Set the reserve bid really high, wait for the questions and trade offers to come in and find you someone with great feedback and tell them to jus go through pay pal and send them an invoice have them pay then you ship. Just use eBay as a tool to catch the perfect buyer. They may trust you if you have good feedback. Maybe?
 
I've been including in all my auctions over the past year or so this.

"Anyone who tries to pull any of that fraudulent credit card chargeback stuff or files a fraudulent claim will have legal action pursued against them and my father is a detective for the LAPD"

Granted if someone is going to try a chargeback their going to try it but I think something like that in a listing scares away potential bad buyers and has them look elsewhere because they know your not playing around and that it might be more of a hassle then its worth it for them.

I had about 3 fraud chargebacks done against me in 2011-12. I got my money back each time after extreme measures were taken but i haven't had any problems since I started including that in my listings
 
my father is a detective :rofl:

id automatically assume thats a lie, you could just put up a warning about fraud and what not at least make it serious
 
I mean some people may think its a lie but hardly any auctions even include anything about fraud in their listings. The the times I did have chargebacks filed against me when I called the scammers after doing my hw to get their info. I told them I have family in law enforcement and that this matter would be attended to. Each time they dropped the chargeback.
 
Just went through this exact scenario last month.  Sold a $400 pair of Jordans, and seller contacts me through ebay and says, "How dare you think you're getting away with this!"  So I knew immediately he was going to pull the bait-n-switch scam.  He claimed I sent him adidas, I've never owned a pair of adidas in my life.  I had his number so I called several times, but he wouldnt answer.  I'm occasionally in his area, so I told him if his scam goes through, I'll swing by his house so we can chat in person.  Didnt matter, he left the claim open.  I called Paypal the same day the claim was opened and they said it shows a good sign when the seller calls them immediately and is willing to provide any details or info to assist in the case.  They did say, the buyer has to PROVE they received the wrong shoes.  (That was strange to hear, because ebay/paypal always side with the buyer).  But they said the responsibility would be on the buyer to prove the shoes I sent were wrong, and that could include him going to the police department and filing a police report.  That was great news to hear, since that now would involve him filing a false police report to for the law to get involved.  Anyways, long story, but after about one month, the case closed and Paypal voted in my favor.  It just sucked having $400 tied up, and the stress of dealing with a deadbeat.
 
This is the reason why I won't use Ebay as a seller.   Your better off having Flight Club sell them for you or posting an ad on craigslist.   If you use craigslist just remember to meet in a public place where there's a lot of people. 
 
djsaluki said:
Just went through this exact scenario last month.  Sold a $400 pair of Jordans, and seller contacts me through ebay and says, "How dare you think you're getting away with this!"  So I knew immediately he was going to pull the bait-n-switch scam.  He claimed I sent him adidas, I've never owned a pair of adidas in my life.  I had his number so I called several times, but he wouldnt answer.  I'm occasionally in his area, so I told him if his scam goes through, I'll swing by his house so we can chat in person.  Didnt matter, he left the claim open.  I called Paypal the same day the claim was opened and they said it shows a good sign when the seller calls them immediately and is willing to provide any details or info to assist in the case.  They did say, the buyer has to PROVE they received the wrong shoes.  (That was strange to hear, because ebay/paypal always side with the buyer).  But they said the responsibility would be on the buyer to prove the shoes I sent were wrong, and that could include him going to the police department and filing a police report.  That was great news to hear, since that now would involve him filing a false police report to for the law to get involved.  Anyways, long story, but after about one month, the case closed and Paypal voted in my favor.  It just sucked having $400 tied up, and the stress of dealing with a deadbeat.
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Oh boy am I looking forward to unloading these 10-12 pairs I need to get rid of. Bout to take the most expensive ones to flight club and call it a day
 
Will call them when I wake up, but does Flight Club do out of state? I'm located in Illinois. 
 
just sell to reputable people; I have never had an issue

OP is planning to get ripped off on his "high demand" Nike's before he even sells them :lol:
 
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the hater boxden said:
have a friend film you shipping it off. from you packing the box up to you handing it over to the post office/ups/fed ex employee.
get signature confirmation & insurance worth worth the finale selling price.
i'd use UPS personally. **** the post office.
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will this actually hold any value if somehow a court case occurred? never heard of anyone doing this before
 
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