R.I.P Trayvon

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This is what he said tho:

Even police officers are told not to grab people up just because they think they are sus and you telling me you thought it would be ok for a NHW to
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There is a difference between snacthing someone up and identifying yourself and frisking someone.
 
Very true, but this what you said:

Even police officers are told not to grab people up just because they think they are sus and you telling me you thought it would be ok for a NHW to
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Magic1978 said:
Exactly how often does a grown man scream for them to know it's him?
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shoefreakbaby said:
The last screams are heard right when the shot is made.

So GZ was screaming removing the safety and shooting all at the same time, why scream for help when you have help right in your hand.

It doesn't make sense.
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The screams stopped after the gun shot. Trayvon is the only one who was shot. You can't scream for help anymore after you've been killed. If it was GZ, why wouldn't he keep screaming for help and tell people his life was just in danger? He was seen pacing with his hands on his head and waist afterwards.

What also gets me is that GZ said he never identified himself to Trayvon. Trayvon had Skittles and a can of Arizona. He was just playing video games and was heading back to keep playing video games, then watch the All-Star game. How does a kid with snacks in that scenario end up getting violent? None of us know what happened in the altercation, but to me, it sounds like the way Zimmerman may of approached Trayvon might not of been the nicest or most considerate. Trayvon would of never known Zimmerman existed if GZ stayed in his truck.

Also, is it really THAT farfetched to even have the slightest inkling that race had something to do with it? Zimmerman has a history of calling the police on black kids. Does it matter that he didn't start the call with Trayvon's race from the get go? Dispatchers are required to ask for race and descriptions. It's really easy to identify someone who is black from someone who is white. Zimmerman told them he may be black, then got closer after following Trayvon (while telling dispatch he was following Trayvon, which resulted in them requesting him to stop) and told them he was definitely black.

All Zimmerman saw Trayvon do was walk somewhere. Words like "****** punks" and "these ******** always get away" definitely don't refer to people who walk. Because everyone does that. There was obviously something about Trayvon that is somehow relatable to a group of people that Zimmerman felt are "******g punks" that are also "********" that "always get away."
 
Jay6jay said:
Point blank Zimmerman isn't a neighborhood watch and you know it.

So why even ask that question


Even police officers are told not to grab people up just because they think they are sus and you telling me you thought it would be ok for a NHW to
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Was he following him or grabbing him up? There is a difference.
 
^^ Bro considering Zimcoward was a loser with a gun, anythings possible.
Either way it goes Zimcoward will be a prisoner.
He will go to jail or be forced to live in hiding.

As far as the trial goes, it's the prosecutions turn to put the heat on Zimcoward's witnesses.
I'm sure he told everyone a different version of what happened that night.
The prosecution should pick them apart.
 
Zimcoward? Such a corny name... :lol:

but in all seriousness, Zimmerman is getting off. Its not right nor fair in my opinion but whats new?
 
Whether Zimmerman walks or gets locked up his life will never be the same. Dude will be shi tin bricks and looking over his shoulder everywhere he goes for the rest of his life.



he will get his trust.
 
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shoefreakbaby said:
“Had he not chambered a round prior to meeting Trayvon, and had he not taken the safety off — even if Trayvon, during the altercation even if Trayvon had tried to grab the gun away from Zimmerman — had that gun not been chambered with a round and safety off, Trayvon Martin would have had to use two hands. You can’t do it with one hand,” Savage asserted.
“Because Zimmerman carried a loaded weapon with the safety off, Trayvon Martin is dead,” he continued. “Therefore, the responsibility is in the hands of Zimmerman.”

Michael Savage


Ever since I remembered about the safety latch on a gun I realized three things.

Either Zimmerman walks around with a gun with with out the safety on

Or he removed the safety before he confronted trayvon.

Or he had enough time to remove the safety right before the shooting.



None of his stories are consistent with the physical evidence smh
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There is not a safety switch on a Glock Sherlock, its built into the trigger u pull the trigger, switch goes off, it will fire depending on how hard/far u pull the trigger

Also glocks stay loaded with 1 in the chamber
 
Superb said:
shoefreakbaby said:
“Had he not chambered a round prior to meeting Trayvon, and had he not taken the safety off — even if Trayvon, during the altercation even if Trayvon had tried to grab the gun away from Zimmerman — had that gun not been chambered with a round and safety off, Trayvon Martin would have had to use two hands. You can’t do it with one hand,” Savage asserted.

“Because Zimmerman carried a loaded weapon with the safety off, Trayvon Martin is dead,” he continued. “Therefore, the responsibility is in the hands of Zimmerman.”


Michael Savage



Ever since I remembered about the safety latch on a gun I realized three things.


Either Zimmerman walks around with a gun with with out the safety on


Or he removed the safety before he confronted trayvon.


Or he had enough time to remove the safety right before the shooting.




None of his stories are consistent with the physical evidence smh
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There is not a safety switch on a Glock Sherlock, its built into the trigger u pull the trigger, switch goes off, it will fire depending on how hard/far u pull the trigger

Also glocks stay loaded with 1 in the chamber
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yes we've established that already sherlock
 
CelticsFan9783 said:
Was he following him or grabbing him up? There is a difference.
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I'm talking to omgosger who seems to be very emotional about this case


He asked does a NHW have the right to touch someone if they feel they are suspicious.It was a hypothetical question because GZ is not. NHW



Once again it's so easy to believe that trayvon attacked GZ but once you say maybe GZ confronted and attack GZ you are called bias. We can't prove what happened but it has been proven that GZ has lie about many aspects of this entire case
 
I think its funny how you guys keep popping up and saying


" Sorry, He is getting off"






Sorry when the verdict is read then we will find out, so just chill :lol:



HE IS GOING TO PRISON
 
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damn I wish I would've followed this trial. just seems like if someone is following you, you have to decide to fight or run, that's it. seems like Zimmerman is responsible for the outcome of deciding to continue following martin after being told to fall back. don't know if that = 2nd degree murder, but should be something
 
Zimcoward ain't getting off.
Lying on national TV about his knowledge of the "Stand your ground" law is going to fry him.
On top of that he was lying with his hot shot attorney sitting right next to him.
His inability to control his lust for attention is going to sink Zimcoward's ship.
He can sit there and try to look as cool as he wants.
But you can't tell multiple versions of one story and get away with it.
It's an all women jury, and women hate a man that lies.
 
shoefreakbaby said:
“Had he not chambered a round prior to meeting Trayvon, and had he not taken the safety off — even if Trayvon, during the altercation even if Trayvon had tried to grab the gun away from Zimmerman — had that gun not been chambered with a round and safety off, Trayvon Martin would have had to use two hands. You can’t do it with one hand,” Savage asserted.
“Because Zimmerman carried a loaded weapon with the safety off, Trayvon Martin is dead,” he continued. “Therefore, the responsibility is in the hands of Zimmerman.”

Michael Savage


Ever since I remembered about the safety latch on a gun I realized three things.

Either Zimmerman walks around with a gun with with out the safety on

Or he removed the safety before he confronted trayvon.

Or he had enough time to remove the safety right before the shooting.



None of his stories are consistent with the physical evidence smh
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Superb said:
There is not a safety switch on a Glock Sherlock, its built into the trigger u pull the trigger, switch goes off, it will fire depending on how hard/far u pull the trigger

Also glocks stay loaded with 1 in the chamber
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problem here is zimmerman didnt have a glock. so what youre saying doesnt matter. prooooobably should do a little research before giving sarcastic answers. he had a 9mm kel-tec. And no, glocks do not stay loaded with 1 in the chamber. no gun does. you have to load 1 into the chamber always. Dont argue, I own a glock 19. Besides that, alot of people carry their guns "cocked and locked" which is 1 in the chamber and ready to fire but the safety is on to prevent a negligent discharge (accidental firing) many carry the gun hot without the safety on and depend on the holster to make sure the trigger doesnt go off, which is most likely what zimmerman does.

the question isnt why zimmerman was carrying his weapon hot. he has a license to do so. the question should be... how did the bullet go straight through the front to back of trayvon...if zimmerman HAD to be shooting at an angle if he was on his back. The medical examiner testified that the bullet went in a straight line from front to back as if trayvon was shot while both were standing up. the angle is nearly impossible from lying on your back. if zimm was telling the truth, the bullet shouldve went in an upwards angle from his chest towards his neck.
 
^ Or Zimmerman was the one on top and shot directly downward. There are multiple witnesses who described seeing someone in a red jacket on top. Zimmerman was wearing a red jacket and Trayvon was wearing a grey hoodie.
 
Cosign with ^ i own a G23 and they dont stay loaded with one in the chamber..btw didnt know he owned a keltec smh thought he would have a springfield or some being that he was portraying a law inforcer..sorry for steriotyping... Spellcheck..
 
Fresh Like Will said:
^ Or Zimmerman was the one on top and shot directly downward. There are multiple witnesses who described seeing someone in a red jacket on top. Zimmerman was wearing a red jacket and Trayvon was wearing a grey hoodie.
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possible. the "witnesses" all have different stories. it was just too dark, too fast, and terrible weather. nobody wants to say "honestly...i barely saw s***"
lbrigs said:
Cosign with ^ i own a G23 and they dont stay loaded with one in the chamber..btw didnt know he owned a keltec smh thought he would have a springfield or some being that he was portraying a law inforcer..sorry for steriotyping... Spellcheck..
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yea, p.o.s. kel-tec lol. said his buddy who wrote the book recommended it to him. i was THIS close ->  <- to getting the 23 instead of the 19. but im more comfortable shooting 9mm. honestly, zimm was an overzealous wannabe hero. that hero-complex in combination with his obvious disdain (wont call it racism)  towards black youth ended up with an innocent 17 year old dead. prosecution went after this case wrong. theyre going for murder 2, which IS the right charge, but they lack the evidence to PROVE murder 2. and as they say... "its not about what you know, its about what you can prove in court." id be ATTACKING the defense if i was the prosecutor. I'd attack the defense's biases and assumptions, how they pardon zimmermans inaccuracies but denounced Rachel's. Etc etc
 
Ill just leave it up to the jury.. How long does this case have? The .40cal 23 is not that bad. Mines probably feels like your 9mm and still sounds like a .40 and its accurate. I think as long as you leave them stock they are accurate in defense.. Plus im 5-10 or 5-11 153lbs
 
macky said:
damn I wish I would've followed this trial. just seems like if someone is following you, you have to decide to fight or run, that's it. seems like Zimmerman is responsible for the outcome of deciding to continue following martin after being told to fall back. don't know if that = 2nd degree murder, but should be something
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We don't need you to do that.
 
After watching the trial the past couple of weeks, based on the evidence and testimony, I'm surprised that this actually went to trial.


The Prosecution has proved nothing. All they have done was rebut GZ's story, and havent put together a story that would lead you to believe that GZ did it maliciously. If he had intentions on murdering TM, why would he call the police before he did it?

There was only one eye-witness who saw the actual fight. He stated he saw the person wearing the hoody on top. The other witnesses didnt actually see the fight, all they saw was GZ after the fact and probably assumed he was on top. Therefore, their testimony wont sway jurors.

Yeah GZ has inconsistencies in his story, but 2 police officers confirm his story and one of which said he believed him. If the Prosecution had any chance, they completely blew it on Friday. I wouldnt be surprised if the Medical Examiner gets fired. What ever credibility he had was completely lost.


the question isnt why zimmerman was carrying his weapon hot.
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What's the point of having Concealed Weapons permit for personal protection if it isnt loaded? :lol:
 
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