+++OFFICIAL JAY Z THREAD+++

Let us REALLY examine Oceans (Most of this Was done myself with a lil help from Rapgenius because they do go OD on a few lines)

[Intro]
(You see this ************)
(White, White, White)

Frank Ocean Hook
"I see elephant tusk on the bow of a sailing lady(Boat)
Docked on the Ivory Coast"

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Keep in mind the commercial where he speaks on the duality of The song (slavery/success). the obvious comparison is frank speaking on the view a slave would see among being put on a ship but also nowadays the ivory coast can also be seen as a place of luxury where people go yachting.
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you also have the reference to Ivory which triggers the black/white dichotomy of the song & the actual color of Ivory, which is a tannish off white color which could refer to cocaine (which makes sense because it's referenced througout the song)
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"Mercedes in a row winding down the road"
another view at the luxury side, expensive cars... also when drugs are unloaded from a boat there are usually cars lined up to recieve the shipment.
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"I hope my black skin don't dirt this white tuxedo
Before the Basquiat show and if so
Well **** it, **** it"


He's still keeping up the luxury by mentioning the Tuxedo, The fear of him tarnishing his white tuxedo considering white has always been received as purity.
Tuxedo is also the title of a Basquiat’s canvas, the work is completely black and white.
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"Because this water drown my family
This water mixed my blood
This water tells my story
This water knows it all"


On one end the obvious reference of the water is to slavery. We were brought across the oceans on boats, throughout these rides many were killed, drowned, raped etc etc. the Ocean was the site of all these atrocities hence why the water knows it all.
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The water can also be used as a reference to drug use. water(drugs) have drowned several black family's since it hit causing people to share needles and blood, transmitting diseases in the process, drugs as any fan of Jay can tell has always been a huge part of his story.
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"Go ahead and spill some champagne in the water
Go ahead and watch the sun blaze
On the waves of the ocean"


Referring again to success it's not rare for the rich to spill champagne while on a yacht but its also a nod to pouring out liquor to those that have passed. In This case the millions of blacks that lost their life crossing these oceans.
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"Dope boy still smelling like cocaina
White boat, white robe"


Referencing his Come up as a drug dealer to now cruising across the seas in his robe (Keep in mind the Cleanliness and purity that the color white represents)

"Can he be more cleaner"
still making reference to white but no longer is he still selling coke, he's now Jay z all his money is clean and pure.

"The oil spill that BP ain't clean up"
A triple entendre making reference to BP itself, corporations trying to change him and strip him of his blackness, and another reference to the amount of black lives lost in that ocean that will never be forgotten.
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"I'm anti-Santa Maria
Only Christopher we acknowledge is Wallace"


More History that was manipulated Jay has no respect for Christopher Columbus he was a mass murderer who is celebrated like a hero. He rather celebrate the life of His Friend Christopher Wallace (Notorious BIG)
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"I don't even like Washingtons in my pocket
Black card go hard when I'm shopping"


no Love for George Washington either he was a known racist and slave owner, also a reference to how he rather use his blackcard instead of cash at all.
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"Boat dock in front of Hermes picking cotton
Silk and fleeces, lay on my Jesus"


Jay-Z continues along with the ocean theme by using the “boat” metaphor to refer to his Maybach being parked outside of the the Luxury Designer Hermes store while he’s shopping for clothes(Picking cotton). Also a literal reference back to slave days when they use to pick cotton from fields.
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"Silk and fleeces, lay on my Jesus
Oh my God, I hope y'all don't get seasick"


Keeping up with the cotton from the last line he then names two other fabrics slaves were forced to pick and explains how they lay upon his dimaond jesus chain (another show of luxury/wealth). Still holding on to the ocean imagery he uses seasick as a reference to the actual slaves crossing across the water & The people who hate on him for having all these luxurious things.
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"See me in **** you never saw
If it wasn't for these pictures they wouldn't see me at all"


Still keeping the theme of Ocean (See/Sea), Jay Has made a living of being the one to start new trends and come out with things most don't know about... also a clever play on the word seesaw. Jay feels as if people ain't seeing him in rap 7 also in a literal sense he ain't where all them other rappers at.

"Aww, whole world's in awe
I crash through glass ceilings, I break through closed doors"


Pretty Obvious this man has become a figure for being in a space your not SUPPOSED to be in. He's constantly making history and whether you like it or hate it everyone is paying attention.
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"On the ocean, I'm in heaven
Yachting, Ocean 11"


when's he's in the ocean he's estatic because he knows he's made it. he thens mentions Oceans 11 which is a movie about career criminals who finally made the big heist and can just relax. Jay is no stranger to that he was a hustler who made it out and now enjoys his lucrative life.

It can also be seen in a literal sense of when he's on the ocean he feels at home like you would in heaven. His roots, ancestors were killed and remain part of that same water he's now around them.

ALL FIRST VERSE.... but ya'll ****** still skimmin go right ahead pleboi.:smh:

Yo does anyone have the link to the Jay-z for dummies thread because that **** def has to be updated. Verse two is even a lil more ill than verse 1

Facts only...
 
Because the album doesn't really have staying power.  Most songs only have 1 or 2 rap verses (I think there's one song on the entire album with 3 verses) and a lot of it is Jay letting the beat or featured singer take the reigns on the song.

Overall it's kind of boring and doesn't have that much replay value.  It's almost like a "sixteen" song mixtape with how uncohesive it is...

So critics who didn't rush to review it right away and weren't prisoner to their initial opinions had time to digest what they listened to and play it for 10 days.  And a lot of them are deciding it's not that great...

Jay mailed it in.
It's funny how you give your opinion as fact, yet you devote so much time in this topic and the Kanye one repeating the same things over and over. If it has no staying power, why are you still here to say it has no staying power? Which one is more active? People wouldn't still be talking about it.

You seem upset that a lot of people like this album and are steady trying to convince people otherwise.
It is my opinion.  Stated so many times bruh.  Never pretended anything was fact.  But dude asked why the reviews are getting progressively worse and I explained why.  Go read the reviews, before you chime in.  So what I said wasn't wrong.THAT'S the reason they're giving.  You're so quick to pick up your sword and shield and defend Jay.  So what I said wasn't wrong.

I didn't even say it was a bad album.  Just that Jay mailed it in and that it's not cohesive.  Jay is my favorite rapper.  I'd even call myself a Jay stan.  Only musician on Earth I've dropped money for front row floor tickets on and prob only one I ever will do that for.  I do like Ye though, I don't pretend otherwise.  I just want them both to be great.

I'm here because I have a rough work month and I'm in front of my laptop 12 + hours a day.

Why you clockin' me doe?  This Jay threads active cuz the album just dropped two two weeks ago.  And I'm here because I want to talk about it.  I never told you to stop grumping around the Kanye thread.  Post away all you want. It's a discussion board.  I want people to keep talking about it.  Why would I want the thread to die and not be active?

Know ya audience bruh.  Your response might be appropriate for ninjahood, not me.
 
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I love that jay is working with interviewers who have some kind of connection to him and our asking thought provoking questions
 
lol dude went on rapgenius and posted everything. but still got something wrong

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"Silk and fleeces, lay on my Jesus
Oh my God, I hope y'all don't get seasick"


Keeping up with the cotton from the last line he then names two other fabrics slaves were forced to pick and explains how they lay upon his dimaond jesus chain (another show of luxury/wealth). Still holding on to the ocean imagery he uses seasick as a reference to the actual slaves crossing across the water & The people who hate on him for having all these luxurious things."

its actually SEE-sick. has nothing to do with slaves lol. bad reach.
 
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Actually as its stated in the the initial post i revised the post from Rap genius because they had a lot of reaches...

He CLEARLY describes the line in the video posted... and the see sick thing is referenced in the same post you just quoted... now go play
 


#Newrules indeed gave away a milly for free and still did the best rap numbers of the year... all while not having any single, no video, and doing 3 interviews. :smh:

Not to mention it floated around the web for a week before it hit the shelves which matters in this case because this was the easiest bootleged album in recent memory. The fact that people got it preloaded on their phones allowed them to easily share it and people had no fear of viruses. I saw more links for peoples dropboxes than I saw hulkshare, zipshare and the like.

The streak continues :pimp:

Elvis got his record took
Its like we got our seventh gear
 
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