Help me finish this guide to hip hop grid (image) experts needed

00david00 said:

I'd put all eyez on me in historical essentials, drop CD to more essentials, and take out black album

id also take out sideline story, don't know what I'd put in though

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so far gone

ERACISM said:

Bone Thugs... Not Enough Love?

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Swap E.1999 with Big L Lifestyles... and it makes more sense categorically.

section 80?

illphillip said:

Not sure why the grid is set up the way it is or what it's purpose is.

It seems to be quite limiting honestly.

I personally see a lot of things off in here. No shots.

I'm curious as to what you're trying to accomplish with this.

Just the idea that you can do a "Guide To Rap" in one PDF as opposed to a novel is off IMO.

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I should explain the intent.

I frequent 4chan.org/mu quite a bit more than NT Music, mainly because it's more well-rounded. I like NT, but I am a trained drummer with lots of other genres that I like.

So people go on /mu/ and frequently ask how to "get into hip-hop," as in they've barely listened to it at all. These are metal/noise/punk/shoegaze/house/vaporhop fans. The point of these guides is to introduce someone to the genre by providing them with the essentials first, then letting them branch out however they like.

Fundamentally, yes, this grid has my favorites. It is heavily based on my tastes. But I have also tailored it so it is consumable; a EPMD deep cut may not do someone as much good as a 2003 50 Cent single.

You are missing too many key players for this guide to have any credence. To name a few: DJ Premier/Gang Starr, Pete Rock, Large Professor, Ultramagnetic MC's/Kool Keith, DITC, Kool G. Rap, Masta Ace, Organized Konfusion, Boogie Down Productions, Scarface/Geto Boys, Boot Camp Clik, Big Daddy Kane, Beatnuts, Alkaholiks, Redman

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You named 15+ artists, most of which would be considered quite old school. See how many spots I designated? The point of it is to be concise and a quick digest. Is it pleb? Sell-out? Basic? Maybe. But it's in no way disrespectful; I've paid my dues to the godfathers. This is a quick guide.

ERACISM, I do appreciate your feedback, though. I expected reactions all across the spectrum.

Admittedly, I should rename it a "beginner's guide." But I'd like to see you try your hand at maybe an advanced version; could be pretty nice.

... and to whoever suggested above, no Cudi is making this list

Chopper said:

I like that you have East 1999 on there.

An 'underground' category would also be cool. Here's five that come to mind.

Madvillain - Madvillainy
Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Murs - 3:16 The 9th Edition
Brother Ali - Shadows On The Sun
Aesop Rock - Labor Days

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I'd swap Dr. Octagynecologist with one of the bottom 2.

Here are examples of other types of grids from /mu/

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you must work for complex with this rancid list.