Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

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Shox23 said:
I didn't think your a warriors fan because you think Monta is better than Steph
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Did i say that? I said this:

is up there with Monta. I DAMN SURE don't think Steph is better though.
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which is saying Steph has gotten up there to as good as Monta, not better, not worse. I don't think he's surpassed him but I know how NT feels about their Steph Curry so it is what it is. Anyway, we'll see this up coming season since I feel Monta is in a better system than he was with the Bucks. If i'm wrong, so be it, but as of today, I don't think Steph is miles ahead of Monta like y'all making it seem.
 
OneTrust said:
Did i say that? I said this:
which is saying Steph has gotten up there to as good as Monta, not better, not worse. I don't think he's surpassed him but I know how NT feels about their Steph Curry so it is what it is. Anyway, we'll see this up coming season since I feel Monta is in a better system than he was with the Bucks. If i'm wrong, so be it, but as of today, I don't think Steph is miles ahead of Monta like y'all making it seem.
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Monta is probably already on the decline though, entering his 10th year. It isn't a fair fight between he and Steph, who is not even scratching the surface yet. Steph is going to be on National teams, All-star teams and All-NBA teams. Monta's never had any of those distinctions and his best days are already behind him. Monta had a nice little run but Steph already a much more valuable player than he is.

Steph is already a more well-rounded guard offensively. They're both not much defensively. The IQ is probably what stands out the most though between the two.

No way are they equals.
 
Vincent Van Ho said:
Monta is probably already on the decline though, entering his 10th year. It isn't a fair fight between he and Steph, who is not even scratching the surface yet. Steph is going to be on National teams, All-star teams and All-NBA teams. Monta's never had any of those distinctions and his best days are already behind him. Monta had a nice little run but Steph already a much more valuable player than he is.

Steph is already a more well-rounded guard offensively. They're both not much defensively. The IQ is probably what stands out the most though between the two.

No way are they equals.
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I hear you. Hell, if you go back to Niketalk archives, I even said Steph is the MAN even BACK then because I knew this. I knew he had more potential. His ceiling was higher due to his PG ability. Which is why even back then, people were willing to trade Monta instead of Steph. HOWEVER, what I think everyone is basing right now off us IS potential and of course the fact that Steph had an AMAZING year compared to Monta who was stuck in the hell hole known as the Bucks this year.

I do disagree about the IQ thing though. Steph still does some CRAZY stupid passes still, especially that one handed LEFT hand across the court pass that IRKS the hell outta me.

I also disagree though that Monta is on the decline. I think it's too early to count him out. Dude is still young and i feel in Dallas will have a better system behind him. Obviously, this year will be THE year that determines it for me so like I said earlier, if I'm wrong, then I was wrong.

EDIT: You brought up GREAT points though. Props to you.
 
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DatZNasty said:
Dwyane Wade.

I am surprised I can't find a video but he does this and teams complained and sent tapes into the office, even as recent as these playoffs.

This is the closest I can find but it's AK baseline cuts, just imagine the same thing but going all the way out of bounds then making eye contact with the ball handler right before jump stopping in (to establish in bounds) right under the basket, especially after in bound plays as the inbounder.

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ah hmm...i can kinda see the point, but the player can't do anything while camping out of bounds, why sag so hard out of position to cover him? keep an eye out for his movement and when he comes back in, you regain defensive position (like covering your zone). im probably still missing something here :\

(repped, btw)
 
DatZNasty said:
Oh wow, never noticed the Nuggets did it. This is far more egregious than what Wade does


Karl told Lowe, with a chuckle, that "sometimes, the other team guards you out of bounds."
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ah alright i think im getting it now, in the flow of the game/by instinct defenders get pulled too far back and it leaves the paint open
 
steph needs to be a little more efficient. get to the line a lot more.
17 shots to avg 22 pts is not efficient at all
 
NobleKane said:
i dont think hes trolling hes just mixed up from all the nba teams he cheers for
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Says the guy that is a "fan" of two teams in the SAME division. This must be snoop rooting for the Lakers and only supporting the Warriors when they are in the playoffs. Next thing you know he'll tell me he's a Tmac fan because he bought his shoes, yet disses him in every thread he gets :nerd: Yea I remember that homie. :lol:
 
Just watched CJ Mucoll for the 1st time. He's definitely balling but his shot selection needs to improve and his pg skills need work too. He stayed making cross-court passes. I want him to succeed though
 
you big dummy said:
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just now seeing this
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this is why i hate cari champion. you're a moderator, shut your damn mouth and let them talk. no one cares about your love for the lakers.

but to the actual arguments, i do partly agree with nelly. i feel like dwight just left because he didn't want to be around kobe, and i don't think there is anything wrong with that. playing with kobe= playing at your local gym and hustling/playing defense and on offense one guy is clearly trying to get his and only his. you're expected to put in all the hard work so he can get his shots.
 
DMan14 said:
steph needs to be a little more efficient. get to the line a lot more.
17 shots to avg 22 pts is not efficient at all
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Lack of elite athleticism stops him from getting into the paint and getting to the free throw line that often. More free throws = less shots = higher efficiency. He'll always be a guy that needs a lot of shots if he's to routinely be a 20 to 25 ppg kind of guy. Plus when he looks to create for himself he doesn't really lose anybody, he's just a great shotmaker who makes contested shots and when that fails he just moves further and further away from the 3 point line.

He was virtually the exact same at Davidson. Steph's my guy though.
 
do work son said:
this is why i hate cari champion. you're a moderator, shut your damn mouth and let them talk. no one cares about your love for the lakers.
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Exactly I hate her, they should seriously mute her mic. All she does is co-sign skip and SAS by trying to finish their sentences and failing. I hate her. She has no business on there, I much rather have Jemele Hill on there. I doubt she knows anything about sports, yea she's a Laker fan but what the hell does she actually know about the Lakers? Where did she come from?
 
OneTrust said:
Says the guy that is a "fan" of two teams in the SAME division. This must be snoop rooting for the Lakers and only supporting the Warriors when they are in the playoffs. Next thing you know he'll tell me he's a Tmac fan because he bought his shoes, yet disses him in every thread he gets :nerd: Yea I remember that homie. :lol:
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aint nothing wrong with being from southern california supporting the lakers then having to move as a kid to the bay and supporting the local team.

run tmc was the ****. you wouldnt know about them because you probably werent born yet

im not like you with ten different teams fr0m 10 different states and you live in one state your whole life.

bro if you are supporting teams just because they play against the lakers you need that shrink

and damn right tmac wack

he was dope like penny but turned into a joke. same with vince carter.

they shoes were doper than the player.

time to take that tmac pic out of that locket around your neck buddy. his career is over champ
 
NobleKane said:
aint nothing wrong with being from southern california supporting the lakers then having to move as a kid to the bay and supporting the local team.

run tmc was the ****. you wouldnt know about them because you probably werent born yet

im not like you with ten different teams fr0m 10 different states and you live in one state your whole life.

bro if you are supporting teams just because they play against the lakers you need that shrink

and damn right tmac wack

he was dope like penny but turned into a joke. same with vince carter.

they shoes were doper than the player.

time to take that tmac pic out of that locket around your neck buddy. his career is over champ
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See, this is why you're a funny style dude. Have the nerve to try and call someone out about something YOU DO!

I'm not a fan of the lakers so umm OBVIOUSLY whoever they play, I prefer the other team to win. Your sitting here like all butt hurt because I'm not a fan of your Laker squad and trying to make things up as if I'm a FAN of multiple teams when YOU really ARE a fan of multiple teams. HILARIOUS!

And THIS is why you're a fake dude. So NOW all of a sudden tmac is wack but back then when I was "debating" with you, you tried and played that stupid "i'm not bias" role and front like you were a Mac fan. You a fraud for real. LOL at the "shoes were doper than the player" but your lil fake self wasn't saying that in the past.

And LOL at me not knowing about RUN TMC. I have a damn T SHIRT of them. I'm frisco 415 BORN and RAISED while you're some lil so cal boy trying to claim TWO teams.

Talking bout lockets yet it's funny i don't know WHO'S pic you have in yours since you're a "fan" of MULTIPLE teams.
 
yea you mad lol ive wasted enough time on you. like talking to a wall with 10 different team posters on it. buh bye
 
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