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Um what? Bosh isn't a hall of fame talent, he'll probably get in because of the rings.

What hall of fame talent is the number 3 option on OKC? Derek Fisher?

So Bosh isn't a hall of fame talent, but you think he will get in...Man what laugh.gif ? Bosh is a hall of fame talent. A Great talent who gets into the hall of fame is a hall of fame talent to me.

And when I said hall of fame talent as a 3rd option I was referring to Bosh. Lebron has two hall of fame talents as his 2nd and 3rd option, and Durant has Westbrook as his 2nd option.
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Report: Chris Paul Told Clippers He'd Sign With Rockets After Rivers Talks Broke Down


Chris Paul informed the Los Angeles Clippers that he was planning on signing with the Houston Rockets to join James Harden and Dwight Howard when the deal for Doc Rivers fell apart, according to a report from ESPN's Bill Simmons.

The Clippers ended negotiations with the Boston Celtics over the compensation they would send in exchange for Rivers.

The Clippers eventually reinitiated talks and send a future first round pick to the Celtics.

Paul subsequently agreed to a $107 million new contract with the Clippers.
Via Bill Simmons/ESPN

CP3/Harden/Parsons/???/Dwight would have been nice to see
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post #11973 of 21964
Is an elite scoring SF (melo, KD) better paired with a great PG (CP3, Westbrook, Rondo, Rose, etc) or a great C (dwight, gasol, healthy bynum, etc) ?
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Report: Chris Paul Told Clippers He'd Sign With Rockets After Rivers Talks Broke Down


Chris Paul informed the Los Angeles Clippers that he was planning on signing with the Houston Rockets to join James Harden and Dwight Howard when the deal for Doc Rivers fell apart, according to a report from ESPN's Bill Simmons.

The Clippers ended negotiations with the Boston Celtics over the compensation they would send in exchange for Rivers.

The Clippers eventually reinitiated talks and send a future first round pick to the Celtics.

Paul subsequently agreed to a $107 million new contract with the Clippers.
Via Bill Simmons/ESPN

CP3/Harden/Parsons/???/Dwight would have been nice to see

he was playing hard ball...they dont even have the $$$ to sign him do they? ovb lin wouldve been gone in a ny minute if it happened quicker than mia got rid of beasley when they "got" bron
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The same Kobe who was won 2 championships and countless playoff series as a #1 option. This past season for the Lakers was notably derailed by injuries. He was able to will them into the playoffs while putting up equal/better all-around numbers than Melo. So yes, I think Kobe is a superior #1 option to Melo. Obviously.

Harden is a more efficient scorer and a significantly better playmaker than Melo. Both qualities I would want in a #1 option.

Dirk carried his team to a championship in 2011. He is a better player than Melo and always has been.

Dwight Howard was the #1 scoring option on a Finals team and an ECF team. I'd say that qualifies as having more success than Anthony.

I think you're forgetting the fact that there's more to basketball than scoring. Having your #1 option take significantly more shots than everyone else isn't necessarily a good thing, especially if they do little else on the floor.

Bruh, right now though...

Kobe hasn't gotten touched the WCF in 3 years. That plus his age and the success of LA last year suggest him being a number one option right now won't get you anywhere.

Harden as a number one option just lost in the first round to a depleted Thunder squad. Granted, this was his first year as a number one option and that Rockets team wasn't a legit playoff team anyway, but if you're going to say he's a better number one option than Melo then we have to call it as it is. As of right now, him as a number one option hasn't done anything noteworthy. Certaintly not anything that Melo hasn't done. You could say that in the future Harden will be an awesome number one option (which I said earlier that he would) but he could also be a non successful one. Who knows. What we do know, is that him as a number one so far hasn't amounted to much.

Dirk since 2011 has gotten bounced out of the playoffs and this past year didn't even make it. Again, right now. Dirk is a better number one option than Melo? Please, spare me.

Dwight Howard hasn't done much success wise since that championship run. Again, as of right now, what has he done recently as a number one? Get bounced in the first round consecutive years. That's the facts of it.


Now if we were saying who would be a better number one option for their careers? Then sure all of these guys (sans harden) would be a better number one option. But not right now. No Way. Like I said, if success is what you measure how good your number one option is, then Melo is behind Lebron and Durant. That's it. And Melo does not only score by the way. He's a very good rebounder, and although his statistics may say otherwise, he is a solid playmaker.

 

 

Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

 

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

 

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out

 

 

Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo

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The thing about #2 scoring options are they are usually #1 scoring options that are just trumped by all time players.

Look at guys lately like Wade and Pau...in these two they were #1s on solid-good teams, but they themselves didn't have the necessary help.
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His career playoff shooting percentage is 41%... So you're not that far off
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Melo is like Barkley, he'll never win a ring because there's a Jordan / Lebron..

LOL.

He's never even been to a conference final. Ain't nobody stopping him but himself...

 

 

Melo aint half of Barkley, chill

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Originally Posted by JumpmanPro97 View Post

Historical speaking PG/PF combos can make it to the finals KJ/Barkely Payton/Kemp Stockton/Malone Kidd/Martin too bad they always end up playing against a Phil Jackson lead team with hall of famers on the roster. I am a big Chris Paul fan but I don't think he can win a title with out a legit big man that can get easy buckets in the playoffs. The Lob City act is fun for regular season but just like 7 seconds or less it won't make any noise in the playoffs. The whole pace slows down. Blake and DeAndre have no post moves to get themselves easy buckets.

maybe CP3 needs to bring it out more in the postseason...he has been exposed quite a few times already and is always hyped up as the best PG, when he always gets out-duel by other elite guards. Deron Williams use to get the best of CP3 when he was Jazz, and D-Rose was eating him up, when they played. Now TP is the one doing it. And there only excuse is that he is doing it alone, and has no good options...**** outta here. Deron Williams had Boozer and made him look like a God...now look at him.

 

CP3 had that great series against the Lakers only because he was being guarded by Derek Fisher.

 

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Originally Posted by Black Migo View Post

04 and 07 was the last time a team won a title with the pg being the #1, before that it was isaiah and magic, so you can say its rare to win a title with your pg as a #1

 

you just need a good elite team,

 

I hate when people say "PG as your best player can't win titles" and then when someone brings up "Isiah, Magic, Tony Parker, Billiups"...they say "those teams were elite" like duh...best teams win titles. You think Lebron won it by himself? You think Kobe was the only star? You think Dirk was playing with scrubs? You probably believe Jordan won those titles all on his own and didn't need Pippen, Grant, Rodman, Toni Kukoc.....smh.

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Originally Posted by Ballinsam23 View Post

Both Melo and CP3 are #1 options. They just need a better #2 option.

Granted the Clippers are deeper, have a better coach, and a better #2. So there should be no excuses for CP3 at this point.

so are you saying Blake Griffin isn't a good 2nd option? roll.gif

 

CP3 is just as bad as BG in the postseason.

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Originally Posted by shoeking2101 View Post

Rose? Nope.

Rose is winning I don't know what you're talking about.....
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Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

 

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

 

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out

 

 

Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo

 

Right now? Melo is definitley better than Dirk. Dirk cant stay healthy and his play has really dropped off the past 2 years. thats not a knock on him, father time never loses. In no possible way is paul george close to melo as a basketball player.

 

Dwight is a better player than melo when healthy, im not denying that...he's not a better number one option though. he also had the perfect team built around him with shooters and P&R players who found him for easy buckets.

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Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo


N_'s always have go to extremes to try and prove their points.

Can't wait to see Rose come back and put all these 2nd tier Eastern conference teams back in their place.
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Originally Posted by MarkAngelo View Post

Melo is like Barkley, he'll never win a ring because there's a Jordan / Lebron.. but i've always admired his smooth jumpshot

 

talent wise or the situation? Melo ain't on Barkley's level...so disrespectful. If anyone is Barkley it's Steve Nash.

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Not good playoff performances, buit he also had some good ones. Overall, hes been average in the playoffs IMO. I think we saw KD go through something similar when his #2 option was taken away ie. the grizzlies series.

Melo has too many doe, and hasn't really improved his game since he came into the L.

 

LOL at you pointing out KD series against the Grizzles...if that is his worse, Melo best is comparable to that.

 

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29PPG 10RPG 6APG 42FG% vs the Grizzles KD..not bad at all

 

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Dudes hate LaLa now?


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she is annoying. Plus her body is fake, and she got a makeover when Melo gave her a few laundry change

 

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Soooo many excuses for this guy Carmelo. And next year will be more of the same. And the next.

Until he goes to LA for Lala's career, then the Knicks fans on here will wake up.

realest words ever...Lala is hot, but she is messing wit the dudes head...smh at honey nutt cherry O's

 

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**** these Socialite broads

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Lebron not being a #1 option...

Melo being mentioned in the same class/sentence as Barkley....

Yay, NBA offseason on NT!
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Originally Posted by VICTOR PAGE View Post

same **** every day in here

Pretty much, just the names of the players change...sometimes.
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
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Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

 

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

 

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out

 

 

Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo

 

Right now? Melo is definitley better than Dirk. Dirk cant stay healthy and his play has really dropped off the past 2 years. thats not a knock on him, father time never loses. In no possible way is paul george close to melo as a basketball player.

 

Dwight is a better player than melo when healthy, im not denying that...he's not a better number one option though. he also had the perfect team built around him with shooters and P&R players who found him for easy buckets.

 

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Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo


N_'s always have go to extremes to try and prove their points.

Can't wait to see Rose come back and put all these 2nd tier Eastern conference teams back in their place.

 

 

Aside from scoring, what does Melo do better than Paul George

 

Melo: Scoring

 

George: Rebounding, defense, passing

 

give me Paul George, and not just some homer **** either, take off the ESPN superstar blinders

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Why do people love Melo so much seriously??
Just because he's your favorite player doesn't mean he's top five or on the level of Barkley.
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Originally Posted by Ballinsam23 View Post

Is an elite scoring SF (melo, KD) better paired with a great PG (CP3, Westbrook, Rondo, Rose, etc) or a great C (dwight, gasol, healthy bynum, etc) ?

 

well it depends. KD is great to pair with anyone because he doesn't dominate and hold the ball for too long like Melo (who isn't even a playmaker,)

 

so in Melo case, a prime Pau Gasol would be a great pair for him because he is very passive and can do it all on the offensive side.

 

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CP3/Harden/Parsons/???/Dwight would have been nice to see

lol CP3 should be labeled a *** and should get tha amount of hate Dwight/Lebron if that happened.

 

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Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

 

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

 

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out

 

 

Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo

 

i would take PG over Melo, no question asked. Honestly Melo is just a Rudy Gay with more plays drawn for him.

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LOL.

He's never even been to a conference final. Ain't nobody stopping him but himself...

He was in it in 2008-2009

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Why do people love Melo so much seriously??
Just because he's your favorite player doesn't mean he's top five or on the level of Barkley.
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Nobody is saying he's on barkley's level, thats crazy. But dudes out here legitimatley downplay his talent and abilities and only focus on his weakneses. I'm not even a fan of Melo (Nuggets fan) but I'll give credit where its due and recognize that he's an elite scoring talent, above average rebounder, average passer, average defender which makes him a top 5-10 player in the leage right now off the strength of that. Dominique Wilkins is a very similar player to Melo career wise. PAUL PIERCE too before he got the big 3.

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Rudy Gay with more plays drawn up for him. I've seen it all.roll.gif
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Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out


Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo

Right now? Melo is definitley better than Dirk. Dirk cant stay healthy and his play has really dropped off the past 2 years. thats not a knock on him, father time never loses. In no possible way is paul george close to melo as a basketball player.

Dwight is a better player than melo when healthy, im not denying that...he's not a better number one option though. he also had the perfect team built around him with shooters and P
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Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo



N_'s always have go to extremes to try and prove their points.


Can't wait to see Rose come back and put all these 2nd tier Eastern conference teams back in their place.


Aside from scoring, what does Melo do better than Paul George

Melo: Scoring

George: Rebounding, defense, passing

give me Paul George, and not just some homer **** either, take off the ESPN superstar blinders

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id also take pg over melo... but im a chi homer so my opinion is biased
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Nobody is saying he's on barkley's level, thats crazy. But dudes out here legitimatley downplay his talent and abilities and only focus on his weakneses. I'm not even a fan of Melo (Nuggets fan) but I'll give credit where its due and recognize that he's an elite scoring talent, above average rebounder, average passer, average defender which makes him a top 5-10 player in the leage right now off the strength of that. Dominique Wilkins is a very similar player to Melo career wise. PAUL PIERCE too before he got the big 3.

Paul Pierce before the big 3 is a good comparison. He reached another level in his last 5 years in Boston though. Can Melo grow in the same way?
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Rudy Gay with more plays drawn up for him. I've seen it all.roll.gif

 

and neither is better than Paul George

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Rudy Gay with more plays drawn up for him. I've seen it all.roll.gif

and neither is better than Paul George
If you say so, buddy. I'm biased.
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Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out


Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo

Right now? Melo is definitley better than Dirk. Dirk cant stay healthy and his play has really dropped off the past 2 years. thats not a knock on him, father time never loses. In no possible way is paul george close to melo as a basketball player.

Dwight is a better player than melo when healthy, im not denying that...he's not a better number one option though. he also had the perfect team built around him with shooters and P
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Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo



N_'s always have go to extremes to try and prove their points.


Can't wait to see Rose come back and put all these 2nd tier Eastern conference teams back in their place.


Aside from scoring, what does Melo do better than Paul George

Melo: Scoring

George: Rebounding, defense, passing

give me Paul George, and not just some homer **** either, take off the ESPN superstar blinders

heyyy i kno who this is tongue.gif what gud fam who's Mal

id also take pg over melo... but im a chi homer so my opinion is biased

 

 

bro, Mali is GREAT!   I updated the thread, theres some new pics and stuff in there! Check it out, and thanks for everything bro!

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Paul Pierce before the big 3 is a good comparison. He reached another level in his last 5 years in Boston though. Can Melo grow in the same way?

i doubt it, plus I don't see Melo winning a title like Pierce. His EGO seems way to big, and I don't think he is going to change his game. Lakers would be a joke to sign him in 2014...lol if I'm the Knicks I would let him walk, he has been nothing but a failure since he came to NYC.

 

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Rudy Gay with more plays drawn up for him. I've seen it all.roll.gif

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Y'all do this Melo sucks circle jerk every few months.laugh.gif
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