Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

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The thing about #2 scoring options are they are usually #1 scoring options that are just trumped by all time players.

Look at guys lately like Wade and Pau...in these two they were #1s on solid-good teams, but they themselves didn't have the necessary help.
 
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Historical speaking PG/PF combos can make it to the finals KJ/Barkely Payton/Kemp Stockton/Malone Kidd/Martin too bad they always end up playing against a Phil Jackson lead team with hall of famers on the roster. I am a big Chris Paul fan but I don't think he can win a title with out a legit big man that can get easy buckets in the playoffs. The Lob City act is fun for regular season but just like 7 seconds or less it won't make any noise in the playoffs. The whole pace slows down. Blake and DeAndre have no post moves to get themselves easy buckets.
maybe CP3 needs to bring it out more in the postseason...he has been exposed quite a few times already and is always hyped up as the best PG, when he always gets out-duel by other elite guards. Deron Williams use to get the best of CP3 when he was Jazz, and D-Rose was eating him up, when they played. Now TP is the one doing it. And there only excuse is that he is doing it alone, and has no good options...**** outta here. Deron Williams had Boozer and made him look like a God...now look at him.

CP3 had that great series against the Lakers only because he was being guarded by Derek Fisher.
04 and 07 was the last time a team won a title with the pg being the #1, before that it was isaiah and magic, so you can say its rare to win a title with your pg as a #1
you just need a good elite team,

I hate when people say "PG as your best player can't win titles" and then when someone brings up "Isiah, Magic, Tony Parker, Billiups"...they say "those teams were elite" like duh...best teams win titles. You think Lebron won it by himself? You think Kobe was the only star? You think Dirk was playing with scrubs? You probably believe Jordan won those titles all on his own and didn't need Pippen, Grant, Rodman, Toni Kukoc.....smh.
Both Melo and CP3 are #1 options. They just need a better #2 option.

Granted the Clippers are deeper, have a better coach, and a better #2. So there should be no excuses for CP3 at this point.
so are you saying Blake Griffin isn't a good 2nd option? 
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CP3 is just as bad as BG in the postseason.
 
Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out

Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo
Right now? Melo is definitley better than Dirk. Dirk cant stay healthy and his play has really dropped off the past 2 years. thats not a knock on him, father time never loses. In no possible way is paul george close to melo as a basketball player.

Dwight is a better player than melo when healthy, im not denying that...he's not a better number one option though. he also had the perfect team built around him with shooters and P&R players who found him for easy buckets.
 
Melo is like Barkley, he'll never win a ring because there's a Jordan / Lebron.. but i've always admired his smooth jumpshot
talent wise or the situation? Melo ain't on Barkley's level...so disrespectful. If anyone is Barkley it's Steve Nash.
Not good playoff performances, buit he also had some good ones. Overall, hes been average in the playoffs IMO. I think we saw KD go through something similar when his #2 option was taken away ie. the grizzlies series.
Melo has too many doe, and hasn't really improved his game since he came into the L.

LOL at you pointing out KD series against the Grizzles...if that is his worse, Melo best is comparable to that.
29PPG 10RPG 6APG 42FG% vs the Grizzles KD..not bad at all
Dudes hate LaLa now?


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she is annoying. Plus her body is fake, and she got a makeover when Melo gave her a few laundry change
Soooo many excuses for this guy Carmelo. And next year will be more of the same. And the next.

Until he goes to LA for Lala's career, then the Knicks fans on here will wake up.
realest words ever...Lala is hot, but she is messing wit the dudes head...smh at honey nutt cherry O's
**** these Socialite broads
 
Lebron not being a #1 option...

Melo being mentioned in the same class/sentence as Barkley....

Yay, NBA offseason on NT!
 
Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out

Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo
Right now? Melo is definitley better than Dirk. Dirk cant stay healthy and his play has really dropped off the past 2 years. thats not a knock on him, father time never loses. In no possible way is paul george close to melo as a basketball player.

Dwight is a better player than melo when healthy, im not denying that...he's not a better number one option though. he also had the perfect team built around him with shooters and P&R players who found him for easy buckets.
Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo

N_'s always have go to extremes to try and prove their points.

Can't wait to see Rose come back and put all these 2nd tier Eastern conference teams back in their place.
Aside from scoring, what does Melo do better than Paul George

Melo: Scoring

George: Rebounding, defense, passing

give me Paul George, and not just some homer **** either, take off the ESPN superstar blinders
 
Why do people love Melo so much seriously??
Just because he's your favorite player doesn't mean he's top five or on the level of Barkley.
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Is an elite scoring SF (melo, KD) better paired with a great PG (CP3, Westbrook, Rondo, Rose, etc) or a great C (dwight, gasol, healthy bynum, etc) ?
well it depends. KD is great to pair with anyone because he doesn't dominate and hold the ball for too long like Melo (who isn't even a playmaker,)

so in Melo case, a prime Pau Gasol would be a great pair for him because he is very passive and can do it all on the offensive side.
CP3/Harden/Parsons/???/Dwight would have been nice to see
lol CP3 should be labeled a *** and should get tha amount of hate Dwight/Lebron if that happened.
Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out

Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo
i would take PG over Melo, no question asked. Honestly Melo is just a Rudy Gay with more plays drawn for him.
LOL.

He's never even been to a conference final. Ain't nobody stopping him but himself...
He was in it in 2008-2009
 
Why do people love Melo so much seriously??
Just because he's your favorite player doesn't mean he's top five or on the level of Barkley.
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Nobody is saying he's on barkley's level, thats crazy. But dudes out here legitimatley downplay his talent and abilities and only focus on his weakneses. I'm not even a fan of Melo (Nuggets fan) but I'll give credit where its due and recognize that he's an elite scoring talent, above average rebounder, average passer, average defender which makes him a top 5-10 player in the leage right now off the strength of that. Dominique Wilkins is a very similar player to Melo career wise. PAUL PIERCE too before he got the big 3.
 
Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out


Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo

Right now? Melo is definitley better than Dirk. Dirk cant stay healthy and his play has really dropped off the past 2 years. thats not a knock on him, father time never loses. In no possible way is paul george close to melo as a basketball player.

Dwight is a better player than melo when healthy, im not denying that...he's not a better number one option though. he also had the perfect team built around him with shooters and P

Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo



N_'s always have go to extremes to try and prove their points.


Can't wait to see Rose come back and put all these 2nd tier Eastern conference teams back in their place.


Aside from scoring, what does Melo do better than Paul George

Melo: Scoring

George: Rebounding, defense, passing

give me Paul George, and not just some homer **** either, take off the ESPN superstar blinders

heyyy i kno who this is :tongue: what gud fam who's Mal

id also take pg over melo... but im a chi homer so my opinion is biased
 
Nobody is saying he's on barkley's level, thats crazy. But dudes out here legitimatley downplay his talent and abilities and only focus on his weakneses. I'm not even a fan of Melo (Nuggets fan) but I'll give credit where its due and recognize that he's an elite scoring talent, above average rebounder, average passer, average defender which makes him a top 5-10 player in the leage right now off the strength of that. Dominique Wilkins is a very similar player to Melo career wise. PAUL PIERCE too before he got the big 3.

Paul Pierce before the big 3 is a good comparison. He reached another level in his last 5 years in Boston though. Can Melo grow in the same way?
 
Bro, Melo is better than Dirk?  HELL NO.

Dirk lead his team to a championship just 2 years ago, with Jason Terry as his #2, *****.  Even if he never wins another game, he's achieved more than Melo.

Dwight Howard took Orlando to the promise land with Hedo and Rashard Lewis as his #2 and #3.....Much more success than Melo getting knocked out


Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo
Right now? Melo is definitley better than Dirk. Dirk cant stay healthy and his play has really dropped off the past 2 years. thats not a knock on him, father time never loses. In no possible way is paul george close to melo as a basketball player.

Dwight is a better player than melo when healthy, im not denying that...he's not a better number one option though. he also had the perfect team built around him with shooters and P
Honestly, Paul George is better than Melo


N_'s always have go to extremes to try and prove their points.


Can't wait to see Rose come back and put all these 2nd tier Eastern conference teams back in their place.

Aside from scoring, what does Melo do better than Paul George

Melo: Scoring

George: Rebounding, defense, passing

give me Paul George, and not just some homer **** either, take off the ESPN superstar blinders
heyyy i kno who this is
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what gud fam who's Mal

id also take pg over melo... but im a chi homer so my opinion is biased
bro, Mali is GREAT!   I updated the thread, theres some new pics and stuff in there! Check it out, and thanks for everything bro!
 
Paul Pierce before the big 3 is a good comparison. He reached another level in his last 5 years in Boston though. Can Melo grow in the same way?
i doubt it, plus I don't see Melo winning a title like Pierce. His EGO seems way to big, and I don't think he is going to change his game. Lakers would be a joke to sign him in 2014...lol if I'm the Knicks I would let him walk, he has been nothing but a failure since he came to NYC.
Rudy Gay with more plays drawn up for him. I've seen it all.
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