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Why is nique in the HOF? He made it out the first round like 3 times and shot 42% from the field. see what i did therethose numbers mean something?
i dont see why Melo even gets into the HOF
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Well Paul George has 1 less scoring title, and more playoff success than Melo has (in Georges 3 years)
George is pretty inefficient, but are we really going to use Melo as a measuring rod for inefficiency?
Melo is an elite level scorer
George is an elite defender, an elite rebounder for his position, and a good passer. I never said he was the better #1 option, but he is definitely the better player
Paul George was extremely inefficient offensively
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Exactly, if you want to knock Melo for his defense and passing than that's fair. But to say they guy isn't a good number 1 offensive option is false. He is an elite offensive option who has lead his team to the playoffs every season in his career. Out of current players, only Melo and Duncan can lay claim to that.
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There are bad comparisons and good comparisons. My point is that he is comparable to 4-6 players on that list.
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No he hasn't changed at all.
Yes, it's championship or die, especially wit the antics he pulled to get himself to play for the Knicks...smh. Amare is good and can play, but it's the fact Melo is pretty hard to play with when he clogs up the lane every time he has the ball. And like I said before, he isn't a playmaker. Lebron James can do that because he can see plays and make plays for his teammates, 9 times out of 10 Melo is going to shoot or pass it out, so the player can kick it back to him...smh.
Tell me how this cast of teammates can't get you to the NBA Finals?
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If Pual George is elite at his position for rebounding and passing, then so is melo, seeing as how he posts about 6.5rpg a game and 3.4 apg. Unless you wanna classify PG as a 2 guard, then that would only make him a elite rebounder and a below average passer.
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I think you can make an argument for comparing Melo and KD, but KD's so much more efficient.
Comparing Melo to LeBron doesn't even warrant a response.
Comparing Melo to LeBron doesn't even warrant a response.
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Somehow, when talking NBA players, this point always manages to get lost in the shuffle. It never fails.
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College national championship, Two time Olympian it's the basketball Hof not the Nbathose numbers mean something?
i dont see why Melo even gets into the HOF
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well and not winning..
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his game has been the same since he got in the league. it's not a knock on him, he does what he does very well (scoring). he isn't as great and as terrible as some on here make it seem. one of the better players in today's gm, but in my opinion, he isn't an all-time great in the history of basketball. is he a top 50? prob not, but he has been a solid pro.
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That's some BS elo fan rating thing they have go look at who Kobe's compared to.
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Well Paul George put up 8 rebounds and 4 assists last season to go with 1.8 steals, compared to Melos 7,3 and 0.8 steals. So no.
Also, George averaged 2 t/o per game for his career, Melo averages 3.
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Seriously? Lol. What about that roster screams NBA finals to you? As a matter of fact, let's back up. Melo clogs the lane? Really? You have no clue what you're talking about.
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Cmon lets not act like hedo and rashard wasnt playing the best ball of their careers, even skip was ballin out of control, acting like dwight led that team lmao
Paul george isnt even the #1 option on his team and on some nights not even #2, right now in his career hes a younger iggy with a better jumper, he will be better than melo but not right now
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have ya been in knicks thread or other sites? a majority believe they were really gonna knock off the heat. reg season success
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this is without a question...Melo ego would have gotten Westbrook or him traded, so I doubt the OKC with Melo instead of KD would have even been in the playoffs tbh.
false...Nique shot 46% from the field, was the best dunker the NBA seen at that point (Yes better than Julius and Jordan), and was playing at a pretty high level until he was 35. I ain't saying Melo ain't making the HOF, but please don't try to discredit a legend.
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Melo also averages more rebounds and assists and points for his career. dont play that game. stick to last season buddy. And even if you did, 27 7 & 3 on 45% and 38%>>>>>>>> 17 8 & 4 on 41% and 36% lol
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and then theres the other side of the ball.
Defense is still important. Melo sucks at it, and Paul George is elite
Average offense + elite defense >>>> Below average defense + Elite offense
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I'm talking about the playoffs...look it up he shot about 42% for his career, same as Melo. Melo also shoots 45% from the field for his career. In fact, their numbers are practically identical.this is without a question...Melo ego would have gotten Westbrook or him traded, so I doubt the OKC with Melo instead of KD would have even been in the playoffs tbh.
false...Nique shot 46% from the field, was the best dunker the NBA seen at that point (Yes better than Julius and Jordan), and was playing at a pretty high level until he was 35. I ain't saying Melo ain't making the HOF, but please don't try to discredit a legend.
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Can't fault fans for believing in their team. But let the record reflect I had the Heat repeating from the outset of the seasonhave ya been in knicks thread or other sites? a majority believe they were really gonna knock off the heat. reg season success
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Paul George didn't even shoot 42 from the field last season, let that sink in. Melo as a 19 year old rookie shot higher than George last year and put up better numbers while leading his team to the playoffs. And no George hasn't had more playoff success than Melo has. Leading your team to the playoffs every year despite different and injured casts is hard to do. You are forgetting Melo went to the WCF in 2009 in a stacked West. Besides for Miami, the East has been a joke since D Rose got hurt. I would love to see the Pacers in the 2009 Western playoffs, they would get chewed up and spit out. The Thunder was the 8th seed in the West that year with a 50-32 record, seriously think about that.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2010.html
19 year old Rookie Melo vs 23 year old Paul George Last year
Melo
21.0 ppg
6.1 rpg
2.8 apg
1.2 spg
0.5 bpg
3.0 tpg
42.6 FG %
32.2 3P %
77.7 FT%
17.6 PER
Paul George
17.4 ppg
7.6 rpg
4.1 apg
1.8 spg
0.6 bpg
2.9 tpg
41.9 FG %
36.2 3P %
80.7 FT %
16.8 PER
The fact that a 19 year old Melo was just as a good if not better than a 22/23 year old Paul George puts the nail in the coffin of your argument.
Yes we are going to use Melo as a measuring rod for efficiency because he is way better than George. Melo for his career has been over average in true shooting percentage despite scoring so many points. There is only 4 or 5 ballers on earth than can score as much as Melo while shooting above league average. Dude has a 25 ppg career average while shooting 45.6 from the field (George's career best was 45.3 fg % while scoring 7.8 ppg)
George is a borderline elite defender, if he is an elite rebounder than Melo is too because they have almost the exact rebound rate percentage. Melo (15.8 assist percentage) has has a higher career assist rate percentage so if George (15.4 assist percentage) is a good passer he is also. I have stats to back up everything I am saying, your claims are based in Melo hate and Paul George homerism. The only thing Paul George does better than Melo is play defense. Melo is an elite offensive talent with a great post game and handles. You don't find many 6-8 250 guys that can do what he can do.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/georgpa01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01.html
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Numbers don't mean everything, Paul George can impact a game in more ways than Melo. End of Discussion.
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when you are being compared to Lebron you best get yourself to the Finals with anyone.
Tyson Chandler, Kidd, JR Smith...team looks like a 2011 Mavs...but I forgot, Melo isn't better than Dirk.
Yes he clogs the lane, he get the ball low post, always looks to score.
very well, but not great. He has skills and I think Melo has the best scoring mechanics, but that doesn't mean he is the best scorer in the NBA. Dispute the fact Lebron isn't a better jumpshooter than Melo, he is a better scorer than Melo.
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