Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

[victor page]

You

I think they would have because lilard was from the Wallace trade with the nets

If Roy/Aldridge/Oden panned out...how do you figure they trade for Gerald Wallace still?

Not likely at all.

 

[victor page]

Geral

QFT. Blazer fan here and I can't help but bring up the hypothetical question of what if Durant was drafted instead. :\ Bayless, Miller, Matthews, Batum, Roy, Durant, Gerald Wallace, LMA, Camby, Pryzbilla. :x A collection of all those players might not pan out but I'm sure people would take a paycut to play with Durant, Roy(healthy) and LMA.

Gerald Wallace probably never would make it to Portland. Batum and Matthews either. The core would have been KD/Roy/LMA.

 

[hood17]

gloria gon let greg hit it tho. He remind her of brons pops

We saw how this played out with Bramdon Roy and his knees. If Roy can't get through the first week of the season y'all think Oden will? I think they could have gotten a big that is a little proven within the past two years.

But it's such a high risk/high reward for Miami. All Miami really has to do is avoid BK and Indy's front line. Other than that they should be right back.

 

[rrlegend]

I just don't get what dalembert did . It made too much sense for him to go too Miami but it is what it is

 

[imlive365]

Lol speaking of brons pops has anybody ever seen a pic if him?

 

[rrlegend]

Lol speaking of brons pops has anybody ever seen a pic if him?

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Him and doc brown are in cahoots

 

[imlive365]

Lol I'm being serious tho has dude ever came out and sai anything

 

[statis22]

Geral
Gerald Wallace probably never would make it to Portland. Batum and Matthews either. The core would have been KD/Roy/LMA.

Batum was on the team when thy made the playoffs in 2009 tho. With Roy, LMA & Oden.

Had the health gods been on Portland's side would there even be a need for Wallace? Probably not. That would probably be the best team in the western conference today.

 

[rrlegend]

Lol I'm being serious tho has dude ever came out and sai anything

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But on the real but was some dude that was claiming to be his pops awhile back

 

[imlive365]

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But on the real but was some dude that was claiming to be his pops awhile back

You would think dude would come out and say something all that money being made you would think he'd want some

 

[rrlegend]

You would think dude would come out and say something all that money being made you would think he'd want some

That's why he came out . Y'all don't remember this ?

 

[youngtriz]

gloria gon let greg hit it tho. He remind her of brons pops

We saw how this played out with Bramdon Roy and his knees. If Roy can't get through the first week of the season y'all think Oden will? I think they could have gotten a big that is a little proven within the past two years.

But it's such a high risk/high reward for Miami. All Miami really has to do is avoid BK and Indy's front line. Other than that they should be right back.

roy and oden play different positions and are asked to different things.. roy probably put a lot more pressure on his knees with the running and shooting more jumpers then what the heat would ask from oden... go ahead and stroll to the paint on offense and wait..

 

[buc em]

So wait...Oden worked out for like 5-6 teams this summer. And we don't have a single video clip of any of it? I wanna see what this dude looks like nowadays before I start making any conclusions to what he could mean to the Heat.

 

[EZMONEY SERVANT]

if u r in need of a car for the sole purposes of going to work and back and the grocery store, THATS ALL ........... do u go and buy a benz ? no. do u go and buy a bmw ? no. U go and get a car that is just good enuff to get u to work and back and to the store and backsimple as that. that car should also be gotten at just the right price too, or maybe even less than that



IN PAT RILEY I TRUST

 

[Ja's 2¢]

if u r in need of a car for the sole purposes of going to work and back and the grocery store, THATS ALL ........... do u go and buy a benz ? no. do u go and buy a bmw ? no. U go and get a car that is just good enuff to get u to work and back and to the store and backsimple as that. that car should also be gotten at just the right price too, or maybe even less than that



IN PAT RILEY I TRUST

Oden = 2007 BMW 7 Series with 100k+ miles

 

[romedadude]

if u r in need of a car for the sole purposes of going to work and back and the grocery store, THATS ALL ........... do u go and buy a benz ? no. do u go and buy a bmw ? no. U go and get a car that is just good enuff to get u to work and back and to the store and backsimple as that. that car should also be gotten at just the right price too, or maybe even less than that



IN PAT RILEY I TRUST

Oden = 2007 BMW 7 Series with 100k+ miles

But if that BMW with high mileage can last a year or two with only routine maintenance then that's a good look. Oden will require "routine maintenance," sitting out every other game, limited minitues, etc. Gotta maximize his usage. Plus it's not like they overpaid for the guy, could potentially be a solid pickup because all Miami needs is a consistent paint presence who can give them 8 ppg, 8rpg, and a block or 2 a night.

 

[EZMONEY SERVANT]

vcshox and romedadude i agree with both of ya



low risk is the name of the game


should be interesting to see how it all plays out . even if i didnt like the heat i wish the guy well




heres a good read by a cat whose kinda close to him

About a year ago, Greg Oden told me that his plan was to rejoin his high school and college teammate Mike Conley Jr. in Memphis at the start of the 2013-14 season. Three months ago, he told me he wanted to play for Cleveland because he likes living in Ohio. Last month, he said his trip to Miami during the NBA Finals won him over and the Heat were the front-runners to land him.

In 2006, back when I was one of his AAU teammates, Oden was the most sought-after high school big man since Lew Alcindor. But for some reason, as he prepared to return to the NBA next season and teams courted him, he kept changing his mind like someone who'd never been recruited before. I decided that instead of trying to figure out Oden's thought process, I’d just wait until he was ready to make an official decision.

That time is now. Greg Oden, the no. 1 pick in the 2007 NBA draft, will sign with the Miami Heat.

"Obviously the chance to play with the best player in the world and compete for a championship was a big selling point," Oden told me. "But more than that, what I really liked was how they thought I could really add something to their team. They’ve won back-to-back championships without me, so for them to pursue me as hard as they did meant a lot, especially given all that I’ve gone through."

Those who watched Oden during his one year at Ohio State need no reminder of what he’s capable of when healthy. But considering there are high school seniors who were 10 years old during Oden’s freshman year of college, a refresher might be useful. This highlight video from a 2007 summer league game is a good start.


Through the first 21 games of the 2009-10 season — Oden's most recent in the NBA — he posted a Player Efficiency Rating of 23.14, which would have been good for eighth-best in the league and better than superstars like Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo Anthony, and Kobe Bryant. He averaged 16.7 points, 12.8 rebounds, and 3.4 blocks per 36 minutes that season, including a 13-point, 20-rebound, four-block performance against — coincidentally — Miami in his last full NBA game. He got into foul trouble a little more than he should have that year, but he showed enough flashes of brilliance to convince most NBA observers that Oden, one of the most anticipated players in basketball history, was well on his way to living up to the hype.

Of course, even the most optimistic Oden fans (like me) will admit that the Heat aren’t getting that Greg Oden. In truth, they’ll be lucky if Greg is half the player he was. Not only is his injury history unprecedented for an NBA player, but as he told me last year, his past few years away from the game have been a psychological and emotional struggle. Oden is now in a much better place mentally, but the odds of him salvaging his career still aren’t great, which is something he both knows and doesn't allow himself to think about.

"The past six years have been tough for me," Oden said, "but there’s nothing I can do about it now. The past is the past. All I’m focused on is right now. And right now I feel great and I’m looking forward to playing again.”

My 13-year friendship with Greg may have me grasping at straws here, but I really believe he can make a successful comeback. Not only is he just 25 years old, I also haven’t seen him in this good of shape since high school. Oden almost certainly won't have the explosiveness he once had, but he’s still moving well and he has enough athleticism and lateral movement to succeed in the NBA, especially since he plays center and there aren’t too many great big men in the league these days. If you didn’t know his past and you saw him work out for the first time today, you’d never guess that Oden is one of the most injury-plagued NBA players of all time. I know that’s not exactly much, but given what he’s been through it’s more than I thought I’d be able to say about him.

Most importantly, though, I’m optimistic about Oden's comeback because he’ll play for the Miami Heat — a team that’s a perfect fit. Because he’ll share a court with the most star-studded team in basketball, he’ll likely never be more than the fourth offensive option, meaning his role will basically be to do the three things he has excelled at his entire career: block shots, rebound, and finish at the rim. The Heat have proven that they can win a championship without Oden, so he won't be under much pressure to lead Miami to a new level. This means that he will be able to play as many minutes as he’s comfortable playing and even sit out a few games if his body reminds him that he had three microfracture surgeries in five years.

To recap: With the Heat, Oden can afford to ease his way back into the NBA. He will have zero pressure on him, his role will basically be to block shots and dunk on people, he'll be guaranteed to compete for a championship, he’ll play alongside two of the best players of all time, he’ll pay no state income tax, and he’ll get to live in Miami. There’s also this: “The cool thing about playing for the Heat is when you’re LeBron’s teammate and you screw up, nobody gets mad at you for missing a shot or turning the ball over — they get mad at LeBron for passing to you in the first place,” Oden joked.

I saw just about every step of Greg’s historically dominant high school career. I sat right next to him and saw the disappointment on his face when he couldn’t play in the first few games of his college career because of a wrist injury. I had a courtside seat to see him destroy the Big Ten night after night and put up 25 and 12 on Joakim Noah and Al Horford (now two NBA All-Stars) in the 2007 national championship game. I was in the crowd for that year’s NBA draft and saw Greg’s lifelong dream realized when the Portland Trail Blazers used the first overall pick on him. And I saw the depths of his depression when his career in Portland didn’t work out.

After witnessing this roller coaster, the thought of possibly one day seeing Greg hug LeBron after winning an NBA title or chest-bumping Chris Bosh after Bosh lets out a velociraptor scream is enough to give me goose bumps. Whether this thought becomes a reality remains to be seen. There’s no telling how the next chapter of Greg Oden’s NBA career will unfold. He could — knock on wood to not jinx him — suffer another serious injury in the preseason and never play a meaningful game again. But if karma is even partially real, then one of the nicest, most genuine, and most down-to-earth guys I’ve ever known will get a chance to salvage the rest of what once had the potential to be a Hall of Fame career.

According to Oden, "There’s a lot to be excited about in joining the NBA champions, getting to play with some great players, and living in Miami. But honestly, the thing I’m most excited about is just being able to play basketball again. It’s been a long and challenging road back, so just having the chance to play the game I love again has me more excited than anything else.”

I speak for basketball fans everywhere when I say that we’re excited too.

 

[Ja's 2¢]

I'm not saying it wont work out just its a risk and maimi needed to take it.

I would have loved if oden chose the suns even for just a year to showcase what he got left in him. He would have been healthy all year round.

 

[you big dummy]

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[dt43]

The thing is he never really had THAT many to begin with. He can block shots and rebound with anyone, no question. Offensively he was lookin a lil shaky other than a putback and gettin spoon fed at the rim. 

Let's say somehow the Heat ended up with say... Bismack Biyombo through a trade or something. Would people be THIS excited? Cause that's all Oden is about to provide...as long he can stay on the floor. He's out there to be big and tall...and disrupt some ****.

Alot of ya'll are gassed off the name and the former hype that used to surround him and overplaying this more than it needs to be

It's not a stretch to say Miami was probably the favorite to win it all next year anyway. It's arguable indeed...but in no way shape or form does Greg Oden tip the scale either way with my opinion on that 

I'm seeing ****** on Instagram posting pics of Greg Oden and saying "3Peat" and they are NOT trolling.

All the Heat need him for, really, is size, rebounds, and blocks lol. I mean all they've ever needed was a legit 7 footer and now they have one. Bismack Biyombo

 

[$tacy]

Trynna guard the hibberts, noahs, n kgs are gonna b the death of his knees

 

[mjsaver]

Trynna guard the hibberts, noahs, n kgs are gonna b the death of his knees

People think he's just gonna be able to camp the lane and be able wait for everyone to come his way.

Wait till opposing teams put his shaky &$$ in a pick and roll , guarantee he's food for any decent players coming off a screen.

When they got Birdman I was like damn , when they got Oden I was like

He's just way to removed from basketball to expect anything at this point, lets wait and see.

 

[soleasian]

“The cool thing about playing for the Heat is when you’re LeBron’s teammate and you screw up, nobody gets mad at you for missing a shot or turning the ball over — they get mad at LeBron for passing to you in the first place,”

Bosh lets out a velociraptor scream

 

[Ja's 2¢]

ESPN: Greg Oden said he's not sure when he'll be able to play in an actual game.

. According to Oden, it was "big deciding factor" that the Heat said he wouldn't be needed much early in the season.

Well damn. Thought this dude was 100%. Could turn into another bynum type year.

 

[japanair21]

Well damn. Thought this dude was 100%. Could turn into another bynum type year.

Except the Heat lost no players and is giving him as little money as is legally possible to get it done.