Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

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Kyrie is an awesome quarterback of a team, controls the pace of the game at a very rare level, has EXCELLENT change of speed, is one of the smartest point guards in the league, very good shooter and is a great leader and communicator. He also went to one of the winning'est prep schools ever that's always put out smart players and coached by one of the best coaches in high school basketball history, went to one of the winning'est basketball programs in the history of college basketball that's always put out smart players and that's coached by the current Olympic head coach (they only lost 1 game all season with him in lineup) and will start to win this year in the NBA if he and his teammates can stay healthy. Just because both of them shoot more than they pass and have some of the best handles in the league doesn't mean that they're in any way similar players.
You didn't say anything about what I just said tho. 

In the NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION...they both have been on **** teams.

So how is one a winner and not the other?
 
Kyrie is an awesome quarterback of a team, controls the pace of the game at a very rare level, has EXCELLENT change of speed, is one of the smartest point guards in the league, very good shooter and is a great leader and communicator. He also went to one of the winning'est prep schools ever that's always put out smart players and coached by one of the best coaches in high school basketball history, went to one of the winning'est basketball programs in the history of college basketball that's always put out smart players and that's coached by the current Olympic head coach (they only lost 1 game all season with him in lineup) and will start to win this year in the NBA if he and his teammates can stay healthy. Just because both of them shoot more than they pass and have some of the best handles in the league doesn't mean that they're in any way similar players.

But the wizards win more especially with wall in the lineup so how is kyrie a winner but walls style of play isn't? I'll wait
 
Yep. CP3 and Westbrook are better.
No, Rose always dominates CP3 and OKC doesn't even have Westbrook guard Rose. Rose is offense and defense, where Westbrook is just offense.

Rose is more complete and he's already a proven MVP where neither have gotten that. CP3 hasn't even made it past the second round. 



i think parker is the best pg. rose should not be ranked top anything until he gets back on the court. he missed a year and no one knows if he will be back to his mvp form. he needs to reclaim that spot it can't just be given to him.

Parker is good and one of my favorite PG's, but Rose is better. Everyone that has seen Rose play in the Bulls organization have said he's doing fine and playing normally so there's no reason not to think he won't be really good still.

 
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You didn't say anything about what I just said tho. 

In the NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION...they both have been on **** teams.

So how is one a winner and not the other?
But the wizards win more especially with wall in the lineup so how is kyrie a winner but walls style of play isn't? I'll wait
Neither of them are winners yet but Kyrie's skill set and IQ lead me to believe he's got a better chance to lead a team to wins in the future..
 
Yep. CP3 and Westbrook are better.
No, Rose always dominates CP3 and OKC doesn't even have Westbrook guard Rose. Rose is offense and defense, where Westbrook is just offense.

Rose is more complete and he's already a proven MVP where neither have gotten that. CP3 hasn't even made it past the second round. 




 

i think parker is the best pg. rose should not be ranked top anything until he gets back on the court. he missed a year and no one knows if he will be back to his mvp form. he needs to reclaim that spot it can't just be given to him.
 

Parker is good and one of my favorite PG's, but Rose is better. Everyone that has seen Rose play in the Bulls organization have said he's doing fine and playing normally so there's no reason not to think he won't be really good still.

until the world sees him on the court the skepticism will be there. rose can be just as good, less than, or better than his old self. until he plays one doesn't know and that is why he should not be at the top of the list. he has to reclaim that spot. It can not be given to him based on prior play.
 
if you guys had to rank your top 3 favorite players in league who would it be? For me i got...

1. Gallo
2. Rubio
3. Shumpert


1. LeBron
2. Steph Curry
3. Eric Gordon

Pass-first Kobe may have been my favorite player of all time. I remember a quote when he said if he chose to play PG when he entered the league he would lead the league in Assists and I just laughed. I really think he could have avg 10+ easily. Wonder how his career would have turned out had he taken that approach.

I can't wait for next season. Football and Baseball will definitely hold me over until then doe :pimp:


Rose never deserved that MVP to begin with :lol:

Rose is a great PG but I prefer PGs that set their teammates up at a high-rate.

Rondo, CP3, etc..
 
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couple things...

per 36 is the most useless stat ever

when he chooses to, kobe is a great passer

been on the rose and wall bandwagon

wall is/will be a winner...he was calling out guys like mcgee and blatche for not taking the game seriously and is part of the culture change in washington the same way cp3 is with the clippers

rose was a better/more willing passer before he was asked to carry the scoring load. there's a reason he was getting jason kidd comparisons before getting drafted

brandon jennings just isn't that good
 
couple things...

per 36 is the most useless stat ever

when he chooses to, kobe is a great passer

been on the rose and wall bandwagon

wall is/will be a winner...he was calling out guys like mcgee and blatche for not taking the game seriously and is part of the culture change in washington the same way cp3 is with the clippers

rose was a better/more willing passer before he was asked to carry the scoring load. there's a reason he was getting jason kidd comparisons before getting drafted

brandon jennings just isn't that good

LOL, from who? Stevie Wonder?
 
Rose never deserved that MVP to begin with :lol:

Rose is a great PG but I prefer PGs that set their teammates up at a high-rate.

Rondo, CP3, etc..

1. The whole notion of "deserved" is absurd, in regards to anything in sports. The reason he won is because there was no clear-cut favorite that season, and he carried his team to 62 wins, 21 games better than the previous season. Maybe if LeBron doesn't create the Big 3, he wins that year being The Man in some other city. But he made his bed that year.

2. Setting up teammates? Who has Rose ever had around him to "set up"? His supporting cast, from an offensive perspective, has been putrid. If we praise LeBron for dragging garbage Cavs supporting casts deep into the playoffs, you can't criticize Rose for not "setting up" his teammates, yet still carrying the Bulls to the ECF in his third year. He doesn't have teammates to set up, other than Korver (when he was there, and he was second unit) and Deng. Rose has had to do everything. It's why LeBron left Cleveland. Don't you remember?

3. Rondo? You mean the point guard of a team that had Pierce, KG and Ray Allen as teammates almost his entire career? When has Rose ever had help on that level, offensively? CP3 is part of an offense that may very well be the most high-powered in the league this upcoming season. They are more than happy to facilitate. Rose has gone on record saying he'd rather facilitate, but he can't. He has to score for the Bulls, because of what the front office has given him. Don't downgrade him for doing what he has to do in order to win.
 
1. KG
2. KG
3. KG

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Westbrook better than Rose!? Oh, I've heard it all now. :stoneface:

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Chill out with the John Wall hoopla. Dude was the no.1 pick for a reason. He's a nightmare on the break and is a top notch defender at the pro level. His 3 ball is broke though. Dude had no range :lol:
 
1. The whole notion of "deserved" is absurd, in regards to anything in sports. The reason he won is because there was no clear-cut favorite that season, and he carried his team to 62 wins, 21 games better than the previous season. Maybe if LeBron doesn't create the Big 3, he wins that year being The Man in some other city. But he made his bed that year.

2. Setting up teammates? Who has Rose ever had around him to "set up"? His supporting cast, from an offensive perspective, has been putrid. If we praise LeBron for dragging garbage Cavs supporting casts deep into the playoffs, you can't criticize Rose for not "setting up" his teammates, yet still carrying the Bulls to the ECF in his third year. He doesn't have teammates to set up, other than Korver (when he was there, and he was second unit) and Deng. Rose has had to do everything. It's why LeBron left Cleveland. Don't you remember?

3. Rondo? You mean the point guard of a team that had Pierce, KG and Ray Allen as teammates almost his entire career? When has Rose ever had help on that level, offensively? CP3 is part of an offense that may very well be the most high-powered in the league this upcoming season. They are more than happy to facilitate. Rose has gone on record saying he'd rather facilitate, but he can't. He has to score for the Bulls, because of what the front office has given him. Don't downgrade him for doing what he has to do in order to win.


Why are you so defensive? Chris Paul and Rondo distribute the ball better than Rose. I prefer those types of PGs. End of story.

Although I would take Rose over Rondo. Not CP3 tho.
 
Those announcers are the ultimate hype machine. Dude pump fakes in the lane and turns around with a floater and they go crazy screaming stop it stop it!! Like he dunked on somebody
 
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