Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

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calibeebee said:
It kinda upsets me that mo Williams is using Roy's number. I really wish the franchise would retire his jersey
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First the un-needed signing, and the #7 SMH at the management too for that one. Im thinking his jersey will be retired once hes actually retired from the league officially this time. Its been long overdue.
 
Yeah I agree with the 7 thing, I brought it up somewhere and people were like "Are you serious, Brandon Roy is a nobody...." How quickly people forget man.
 
NomadicSole21 said:
Real talk, I'll take 15ppg from a rookie all day. Dont understand why theres not much love for Thompson either. Son avgs a double-double basically with room still left to grow. I honestly dont think he can produce those numbers now since Bynums in town.
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Great post. :D
 
41 percent from the field and 31 percent from 3 don't sound horrible for a rookie. That can improve. A better stat to look at would've been how many shots he needed to get 15 ppg.
 
Anti... you guys gotta be kiddin.
No one's forgotten how dope Roy was in Portland.

But you guys want them to RETIRE HIS NUMBER?!
FOR WHAT?
Two 20+ PPG seasons!? and a couple great 4th quarters/game winning moments?

Cmon guys... :smh:
what ever happened to standards? Roy was one of my favorites in the league, but theres no way in hell he did enough to earn his number being retired... at least not now...

If his number should be retired then theres 50-100 other people who should be retired too.
**** we might as well retired Jason Richardson's 23 from all the teams hes played on...he had 3 20+ ppg seasons, plus Dunk Contest wins and a 3 point contest win...

Cmon :smh:
 
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hes out of Portland, was only there a few seasons, didnt win or do anything. was he a good player? hell yea but his number means nothing. anyone can wear it, period.
 
Antidope said:
No one's saying retire it, but rather not letting Mo Williams wear it
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I could of sworn someone (calibeebee) just said the words "I wish the franchise would retire his number."

Before you came in with the co-sign. :lol:

But its all good. No biggie. I just personally disagree about the value of his jersey number.
 
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amel223 said:
41 percent from the field and 31 percent from 3 don't sound horrible for a rookie. That can improve. A better stat to look at would've been how many shots he needed to get 15 ppg.
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So 13.4 shots to score 14.7 points. That doesn't make it any better. His TS% was 49.2%.
 
Bottom line is Waiters was not a better pick than Barnes and especially Drummond for the Cavs. You can slice it anyway you want but an undersized ineffecient 2 guard is not better than a prototypical 3 or an elite defender at the 5. There was a reason nobody had Waiters going top 5, I'm not saying he can't be a good player but there were better options.

Thompson wasn't as bad a pick because that was a weak *** draft and they already picked Kyrie who will be their franchise player but as BigJ pointed out they coulda got Jonas.
 
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i honestly see nothing in Waiters, i thought it was a horrible pick and its looking like that as of now. i see nothing in his game or anything. thats just me tho
 
awwsome said:
Bottom line is Waiters was not a better pick than Barnes and especially Drummond for the Cavs. You can slice it anyway you want but an undersized ineffecient 2 guard is not better than a prototypical 3 or an elite defender at the 5. There was a reason nobody had Waiters going top 5, I'm not saying he can't be a good player but there were better options.

Thompson wasn't as bad a pick because that was a weak *** draft and they already picked Kyrie who will be their franchise player but as BigJ pointed out they coulda got Jonas.
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Yea that pick will never seem good unless he becomes a top 5 player and it has all the signs of a pick that will haunt them for years

- Chose a player with the 4th pick that coulda been chosen anywhere from 10 to 20

- Passed on better talent

I remember the saying a bad draft choice sets you back years, perfect example the Hawks drafting marvin williams over cp3 and dwill, and this is lookin like that type of move
 
Personally i would never draft a combo guard or an undersized 2 in the lottery. I dont care if he's projected to be a #1 pick.
 
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Anybody lining up at SPU right now for Jamal Crawford's Pro Am game right now? Checked the Twitter and folks are already lining up since 10 am... How are the lines looking right now? Hope I can get in...
 
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LiCeNseD To BaLL said:
Anti... you guys gotta be kiddin.
No one's forgotten how dope Roy was in Portland.

But you guys want them to RETIRE HIS NUMBER?!
FOR WHAT?
Two 20+ PPG seasons!? and a couple great 4th quarters/game winning moments?

Cmon guys... :smh:
what ever happened to standards? Roy was one of my favorites in the league, but theres no way in hell he did enough to earn his number being retired... at least not now...

If his number should be retired then theres 50-100 other people who should be retired too.
**** we might as well retired Jason Richardson's 23 from all the teams hes played on...he had 3 20+ ppg seasons, plus Dunk Contest wins and a 3 point contest win...

Cmon :smh:
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I agree with all of this.
 
Ballinsam23 said:
Personally i would never draft a combo guard or an undersized 2 in the lottery. I dont care if he's projected to be a #1 pick.
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So you wouldn't draft dwade, westbrook, curry, holiday, lillard, etc lmao. All those guys were combo guards coming out.
 
hypebeast5 said:
Yea that pick will never seem good unless he becomes a top 5 player and it has all the signs of a pick that will haunt them for years

- Chose a player with the 4th pick that coulda been chosen anywhere from 10 to 20

- Passed on better talent

I remember the saying a bad draft choice sets you back years, perfect example the Hawks drafting marvin williams over cp3 and dwill, and this is lookin like that type of move
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That Atlanta pick prevented them from being a top-level contender for years. Still, the draft is a crapshoot. There's always one or two busts in the top 5.
 
WavyCrocket said:
Ballinsam23 said:
Personally i would never draft a combo guard or an undersized 2 in the lottery. I dont care if he's projected to be a #1 pick.
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So you wouldn't draft dwade, westbrook, curry, holiday, lillard, etc lmao. All those guys were combo guards coming out.
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They were "combo guards" in college but they were drafted to play PG in the league.

Waiters doesn't have PG skills. He's a 6'4 ball dominant volume scorer (and they already had a ball-dominant volume scorer on the team). He's smallish and doesn't really defend. It just wasn't a good pick at #4.

In the long run I think Waiters is going to end up being a sixth man-type guy. Like a spark scorer off the bench who will score some points and probably give up some points on the other end. But again, you don't take that kind of player with the 4th pick in a solid draft.
 
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