Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

[datznasty]

Ok, I just looked up those dunks and the KG one is the one I wouldn't really count. He half jumped but still got caught out there. Idk, the fact that I have to youtube his dunks (since doing that, I do rememebr watching those games) is a problem. Maybe I just don't like his style of dunks, I tend to like aggressive dunkers that seek out victims ala Mike on Patrick Ewing, Kobe on Yao, or Shaq on David Robinson in the all star game etc

so whatt do you want LeBron to do differently, beg ****** to stop getting out the way when he comes down the lane? I seen Chandler, Gortat, Griffin, Gibson, Love, Ibaka, Prince, Young, and plenty of other biggish dudes in the vicinity when he dunks and make the executive decision not to contest, whereas if it were someone different, more human, like say a Chuck Hayes, they're making an attempt at it.

 

[sea manup]

Ok, I just looked up those dunks and the KG one is the one I wouldn't really count. He half jumped but still got caught out there. Idk, the fact that I have to youtube his dunks (since doing that, I do rememebr watching those games) is a problem. Maybe I just don't like his style of dunks, I tend to like aggressive dunkers that seek out victims ala Mike on Patrick Ewing, Kobe on Yao, or Shaq on David Robinson in the all star game etc

its all about the hit the brick wall mid air and power through dunks word to

perfect example of lebron not going up strong then wade showing him how its done

 

[beh235]

thank you sea manup for providing great examples, that's what I meant. 

DatZNasty, a lot of the times guys realize it's too late and either they halfway jump or get out of the way with Lebron, and that's normal but he doesn't SEEK to embarrass anyone. Mike and Nique did it quite frequently, and add Kemp to that list too. Guess that type of showmanship isn't in Lebron's personality

 

[datznasty]

I guess. You can count on 1 hand the amount of times he has been blocked above the rim. It happens to everyone

 

[sea manup]

I guess. You can count on 1 hand the amount of times he has been blocked above the rim. It happens to everyone

 at the lack of hype from the announcers on this play

if someone like wade or kobe did this they would need to take a tv time out for them to change their pants

 

[dmbrhs]

In talking about LeBron in the dunk contest, I'm not talking about right now. The moment has passed. I agree, he has nothing to gain, and everything to lose.

I'm talking about earlier in his career, when he should have done it, like the two most recent greats before him (Jordan, Kobe) that he is compared to. LeBron has ALWAYS felt he's above All-Star Saturday, from Day 1. That was a disservice to league. And I love LeBron. But the fact he never participated in an individual event is really disappointing.

 

[datznasty]

He was in that corny *** skills contest, twice I think

 

[beh235]

In talking about LeBron in the dunk contest, I'm not talking about right now. The moment has passed. I agree, he has nothing to gain, and everything to lose.

I'm talking about earlier in his career, when he should have done it, like the two most recent greats before him (Jordan, Kobe) that he is compared to. LeBron has ALWAYS felt he's above All-Star Saturday, from Day 1. That was a disservice to league. And I love LeBron. But the fact he never participated in an individual event is really disappointing.

I completely agree. Now is def too late. 10 years in the L, and the name of it is called the rising stars challenge or whatever, he's def passed that. I felt it was a disservice by him not doing it. Hell, Mike did it 3 times and Nique did 4! Mike would have been in 4 had he not been hurt one year. It is disappointing and no knock on his overall career, his attitude reminds me of the Lebron character with the shades from the Lebron's family commercial 

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[victor page]

It's not too late. He could do the simplest dunk in the world and everyone would say it was the greatest of all time.

 

[awwsome]

Don't care about Bron doing anything other than being the best player in the world and winning championships.

 

[jamergrady]

"Dion Waiters claim he'll be best shooting gaurd in NBA".


We shall see young syracuse product.

 

[awwsome]

He the only one claiming that

 

[dipsetgeneral]

$180 for October 30th - June? That's a fair price, in my honest opinion. Ill purchase that.

Shannon Brown.. Jus'... Jus'... Work on your jumpshot buddy..

DeAndre Liggins seemed like he had the trust of Scottie Brooks and actually got mad playing time. He dun' goofed and will have to earn a roster spot on another team. Look what happens to these young minority athletes. This is a constant-regular thing too. So sad. So freakin' sad.

Also, this past season, they started a new thing where every playoff game is uploaded for on demand replay. It's the national broadcasts, of course. But if there's a classic game, or if you miss a game, you can watch later.

I enjoy LP. I just like tuning into random games and seeing what's out there. Gives me a better sense of the league, outside of what ESPN feeds you.

But, I feel that it's a potential waste of money. I had league pass over multiple seasons and the way games are paced now, it goes like this... 1st quarter close, 2nd-4th quarter, one team has a big lead, then depending on the game usually it gets close in the 4th then another team pulls away. I got tired of that formula so I stopped ordering it. That and in conjunction with what NBATV offers with fan night and their live look-ins, you don't necessarily have to get LP. Who wants to watch a Bucks/Raptors game in it's entirety? Highlight of said game are fine.

Also, to add in twitter provides streams of virtually every nba game for every team. If you truly want league pass for free, that route is much much cheaper.

more info please

Whenever a certain game is about to start, just twitter search bar "Raptors vs Knicks stream" (Or whatever teams you want to watch) and links/streams should pop up. One of those links will amount to a stream to said game. Has worked verrryyy well for me for like the past 3/4 years

I get what you're saying, and I used to go that route (and even championed doing that). But I just don't sit in front of the TV (for anything, not just NBA). I like having games at my fingertips. And the league is at a point now where there are enough "League Pass teams" to make it worth it. That's just me though.

Edit: I mean, I sit in front of my computer, and would rather watch games on there.

True. That's the essence of LP though to more closely follow the teams you want to see.

@Shoeking, I had no idea twitter does that, I think I have to look into that this upcoming season

Might just rock what ShoeKing suggested.

 

[xbiker47]

Don't care about Bron doing anything other than being the best player in the world and winning championships.

 

[dmbrhs]

Don't care about Bron doing anything other than being the best player in the world and winning championships.

I get that. But he made it a point to refuse competing in anything other than the All-Star game. It's sad. Jordan competed multiple times. Kobe did it once and won. LeBron has always thought he was above it. Hell, Dwight Howard did multiple contests. LeBron has been afraid since Day 1.

 

[finallyfamous]

"Dion Waiters claim he'll be best shooting gaurd in NBA".


We shall see young syracuse product.

......no comment.......

 

[everysingletime]

He's in his 10th season in the league and there's still LeBron in the dunk contest talk. Give it a ******g rest, he's never going to do it.

 

[LIL PRETTY TONE]

Lebron has nothing to lose, he has 2 rings now. I think he didn't do it in Cleveland because there was way more pressure. I do agree the time has passed tho. The dunk contest is watered down and it's not even special to win a title with people like Jeremy Evans winning it smh

 

[JD617]

"Dion Waiters claim he'll be best shooting gaurd in NBA".


We shall see young syracuse product.

Only people who believe that are Dion Waiters, his mother, and Animal Thug.

 

[victor page]

Lebron has nothing to lose, he has 2 rings now. I think he didn't do it in Cleveland because there was way more pressure. I do agree the time has passed tho. The dunk contest is watered down and it's not even special to win a title with people like Jeremy Evans winning it smh

Because when Brent Barry and Fred Jones won it...it still was special huh?

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

Wade murdering Anderson vajaja still makes me chuckle

Why his legs do that?

 

[Animal Thug]

"Dion Waiters claim he'll be best shooting gaurd in NBA".



We shall see young syracuse product.

Only people who believe that are Dion Waiters, his mother, and Animal Thug.

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

[COLOR=#red]Offseason Grades: Los Angeles Clippers[/COLOR]


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Additions: J.J. Redick, Jared Dudley, Darren Collison, Antawn Jamison, Byron Mullens, Reggie Bullock (No. 25 in 2013 draft)

Losses: Eric Bledsoe, Caron Butler, Chauncey Billups, Ronny Turiaf, Grant Hill

Other Moves: Re-signed Chris Paul, Matt Barnes and Ryan Hollins; hired Doc Rivers to replace Vinny Del Negro as coach

What Went Right: It’s rare that a team fails to address arguably its biggest bugaboo and still manages to put together a superb summer, but that’s the Clippers’ story.


Center DeAndre Jordan is the leaky roof, the deal-breaker that shows up upon close inspection of the Clippers, the fault that makes it difficult to buy their status as true title contenders. This summer, the Clippers not only didn’t get their roof replaced, but they halfheartedly tried to patch things up (again) with the likes of Hollins and Mullens. That approach didn’t work last year, and it’s not likely to work this year. Presumably the Clippers understand that and simply couldn’t locate any better, cheap options to use next to All-Star power forward Blake Griffin.

The twist: L.A. remodeled its kitchen, installed a pool in the backyard, put in an entertainment center in the basement, added a new coat of exterior paint, redid all the bathrooms and, well, you get the point. The roster and organizational upgrades abound, and the totality of those moves ensures that the takeaway reaction to this summer is, “Wow! Look at this place!” rather than, “Why is there water dripping on my head?”

I’m going to cut this HGTV analogy right here — I will refrain from matching up each player with a specific home improvement — but the list of quality moves is long. It starts with the relatively smooth re-signing of Paul, one of the league’s top-five players and a man who has turned this franchise on its head in only two years. The terms of his deal were never a question, and Paul’s apparent happiness in Los Angeles coupled with the lack of obvious, championship-ready suitors made this a drama-free courting process. But nothing should ever be assumed when it comes to keeping superstars, especially with a team with no real history of success, so the Clippers deserve top marks for Paul’s retention, even if it seemed like a formality.

Upgrading from Del Negro to Rivers on the bench amounts to a coup, even if that was about as interminable, heated and annoying as coaching changes get. Del Negro hinted that Paul was behind the Clippers’ decision to part ways with the coach; Paul denied he had anything to do with it; Boston fans were upset that Rivers wanted out and that he waffled; the Clippers and Celtics couldn’t seem to agree on fair compensation; the NBA stepped in to block a potential side deal involving Jordan and Kevin Garnett.

Amid all these competing interests and subplots, it was clear, even to Clippers owner Donald Sterling, that Rivers was the guy for this team. Championship experience? Check. Functional relationship with star point guard? Check. Capable of handling big-market glare? Check. Beloved and respected by players, media and coaching colleagues alike? Check. That Sterling actually delivered Rivers, despite the cost involved (the new coach received a three-year, $21 million deal after the Clippers sent a first-round pick to Boston to free him from his contract), should make the team’s fans giddy.

The Clippers also did well in acquiring guard J.J. Redick (from Milwaukee) and forward Jared Dudley (from Phoenix) in a three-team trade that sent guard Eric Bledsoe and forward Caron Butler to the Suns. The L.A./Phoenix portion was a win-win exchange for two parties in different places going in different directions: The rebuilding Suns secured a potential star in the making in the 23-year-old Bledsoe, while the win-now Clippers obtained a savvy, team-first wing on a reasonable contract in Dudley who can shoot but doesn’t need the ball to be effective. Peeling Redick off the Bucks for next to nothing (Milwaukee got a second-round pick from the Clippers and another from Phoenix in the sign-and-trade) and getting him on a reasonable deal (four years, $27.8 million) gave L.A. another experienced, quality shooter in his prime.

On top of those additions, the signing of Collison (who can help fill Bledsoe’s minutes), the re-signing of Barnes (a valuable rotation player last season) and the drafting of Bullock (yet another shooter who showed more than a few flashes while averaging 18 points during the Las Vegas Summer League) leaves L.A. with an embarrassment of perimeter riches. How rich? I didn’t even mention Jamal Crawford, the 2012-13 Sixth Man Award runner-up, or the competent Willie Green, for goodness’ sake.

What Went Wrong: One could argue that the Clippers didn’t make a single misstep this summer. Paul didn’t bail. They didn’t strike out in their coaching search. No rotation players they wanted to keep left. They offloaded the $8 million owed to Butler this season. They didn’t sell themselves short when it came time for the seemingly inevitable parting with Bledsoe. And none of their signings or re-signings can really be labeled as “overpays.”

They also didn’t break the bank: With some minor finagling, the Clippers should be able to sneak under the luxury-tax line. Composing a team capable of winning 60 games (if everything breaks right) for $72 million is no easy task, and it’s a sign of good management.

What went wrong, then, was really a matter of the step that wasn’t taken as opposed to the ones that were.

If the name of the NBA game were simply doing bodily harm to Brandon Knight, few players anywhere could stack up to Jordan. Unfortunately for the 2012-13 Dunker of the Year, his job description calls for a lot more than that, namely everything that he didn’t provide in the Clippers’ postseason loss to the Grizzlies. He averaged 3.7 points and 6.3 rebounds in 24 minutes in the playoffs, and Jordan undoubtedly sits at or near the top of the “players to blame if their contending teams fall flat” list.

The rumored Jordan-for-Garnett swap would have been perfect for the Clippers: a tested, tough, reliable, defense-first, ultra-competitive champion who has averaged a double-double for 10 of the last 11 postseasons and is on a fair contract that doesn’t run too long ($24.4 million remaining over two years). What’s not to like? Yes, Garnett is 37, but this moment, right now, is Paul’s prime and Garnett isn’t out of steam yet.

Instead, when it comes to the middle, L.A. is looking at another year of making do with crossed fingers (and closed eyes whenever Jordan steps to the free-throw line), although there’s always the possibility of a trade-deadline move to balance the roster or a a late-season pickup to bolster the front line.

Grade: A. The Paul/Griffin tandem is back, Rivers in in town, the incoming perimeter pieces (Redick, Dudley, Collison, Bullock) surpass the outgoing perimeter pieces (Bledsoe, Butler, Chauncey Billups) and the new round of shaky reserve bigs looks like it will essentially be a wash. The acquisition of Garnett would have made this an A++, but the Clippers more than kept pace with their competition at the top of the Western Conference.


http://nba.si.com/2013/08/30/nba-los-angeles-clippers-offseason-grade/

 

[dt43]

"Dion Waiters claim he'll be best shooting gaurd in NBA".



We shall see young syracuse product.

Only people who believe that are Dion Waiters, his mother, and Animal Thug.

And Meek Mill

 

[Bert.]

"Dion Waiters claim he'll be best shooting gaurd in NBA".



We shall see young syracuse product.

Only people who believe that are Dion Waiters, his mother, and Animal Thug.

i doubt his own mother agrees


srs