Originally Posted by VICTOR PAGE
Originally Posted by DT43
And another inept franchise, the Wizards, gave Minny that #5 pick in 2009 for Mike Miller and Randy Foye. That could have been Curry.
Or even after that, in the first round of 2011 they took two D-league level players who will be out of the league within 1-2 yrs (Jan Vesely and Chris Singleton). Washington's #6 and #18 picks could have been Klay Thompson/Kawhi Leonard/Vucevic + Faried/Tobias Harris.
So all things being equal, Washington could be looking at Wall/Beal/Leonard/Faried/Noel, all under 23. Or maybe Wall/Beal/Porter/Faried/Vucevic. Instead they're overpaying for journeyman SFs. Stupid teams gonna stupid..
That's hindsight If I ever saw it. The Minnesota trade was awful no doubt. That WOULD not have been Curry. The team was not looking at a point guard at the time.
As for 2011...its very easy to go back and see who the best players ended up being 2 years later and say the team should have taken them.
Also, I never liked the idea of rolling out imaginary lineups of missed draft picks because who says the team still would be in the same position in the following draft?
Example...if they Leonard and Faried...who says the team is still bad enough to be able to draft Noel?
Well that's why I said "all things equal".. obviously it's a bit of hindsight/wishful thinking to actually go through and name specific players, etc. That isn't the point though, I used the rosters as an illustration to show how bad moves can affect the potential of a team. Washington could have made better moves and had enough information to do so at the time, so you can't really say this is a case of hindsight.
The Minnesota trade was unanimously bashed as a bad trade when it happened.
The Vesely pick was unanimously bashed when it happened, there was no excuse for that whatsoever. Even if you say we may not have had enough information to know we should draft Leonard, pretty much anyone else taken in the first round would have been a better pick than Vesely there. The guy had no NBA skills whatsoever, not even FT shooting. The Singleton pick was bad too, he displayed no type of offensive skills at the college level. Saying that was a terrible draft isn't hindsight, people were saying that when it happened. At least I was if you check my posts. The Wizards would be in a better position right now if they drafted better, no other way around it.