Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

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^You'd really put Houston's roster over Golden State's? I dunno.
 
What superstar in their right minds is deferring to someone they can't run the offense thru ?

Sure he's a defensive/rebounding machine but offensively he's a cleanup/putback dude point blank , dumping the ball to Dwight in the post 10-20 times wont lead to chips IMO.. Until he becomes a consistent post scorer and passer out of double teams it makes little sense for him to be a 1st option.

the problem is, dwight doesnt see it that way.
 
What superstar in their right minds is deferring to someone they can't run the offense thru ?

Sure he's a defensive/rebounding machine but offensively he's a cleanup/putback dude point blank , dumping the ball to Dwight in the post 10-20 times wont lead to chips IMO.. Until he becomes a consistent post scorer and passer out of double teams it makes little sense for him to be a 1st option.

Well of the options presented ahead of him, there are two points of interest.

Having Dirk help guide his post game. Having someone to teach you actually in the game may do the trick.

Having McHale, a great PF in his day, as his HC may be the golden ticket to Dwight's success. But, the jury is still out whether he's a good coach or not.

Of the teams still in the race, is it fair to rank them this way?

Best roster: Houston > Golden State> Los Angeles> Dallas > Atlanta

Best Coach: Dallas > Houston = Golden State = Atlanta > Los Angeles

Best management: Dallas > Houston > Los Angeles > Golden State > Atlanta

Legacy: Los Angeles> Houston> Dallas = Golden State > Atlanta

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I hate to use cliches but that old dog ain't learning no new tricks, he's a vet and I doubt he could make more than slight improvements at this point regardless of coaching or instruction.

I agree with most of those roster ranking except for 2

Yes GS had a great year but I need to see em with another successful season before I say Mark is a better coach than MDA. His track record is much better than Marks and although I don't like Dantoni , he can't totally be discredited because he had Nash.

And how the hell is Houston's management > Los Angeles ?

Mitch is a damn magician so ill need some serious details as to why the Rockets management is better when they haven't been serious contenders since Hakeem left. All they did was use a bunch of cap space for harden but overpay for linsanity at the same dam time.
 
“@PeterVecsey1: From what I'm told, should Howard decide on GST, & LA is unwilling 2 sign-trade, it has teams willing 2 assume salaries of AB, Biedrins & RJ”

I am assuming that we would have to give up either Barnes or Klay for this to happen. If the other team is willing to take them off our hands with just some future first rounders then Bob Myers deserves to win executive of the year next year.

However this would put pressure on Dwight to win now and we know how he does under pressure.
 
What superstar in their right minds is deferring to someone they can't run the offense thru ?

Sure he's a defensive/rebounding machine but offensively he's a cleanup/putback dude point blank , dumping the ball to Dwight in the post 10-20 times wont lead to chips IMO.. Until he becomes a consistent post scorer and passer out of double teams it makes little sense for him to be a 1st option.

Well of the options presented ahead of him, there are two points of interest.

Having Dirk help guide his post game. Having someone to teach you actually in the game may do the trick.

Having McHale, a great PF in his day, as his HC may be the golden ticket to Dwight's success. But, the jury is still out whether he's a good coach or not.

Of the teams still in the race, is it fair to rank them this way?

Best roster: Houston > Golden State> Los Angeles> Dallas > Atlanta

Best Coach: Dallas > Houston = Golden State = Atlanta > Los Angeles

Best management: Dallas > Houston > Los Angeles > Golden State > Atlanta

Legacy: Los Angeles> Houston> Dallas = Golden State > Atlanta

:nerd:

I hate to use cliches but that old dog ain't learning no new tricks, he's a vet and I doubt he could make more than slight improvements at this point regardless of coaching or instruction.

I agree with most of those roster ranking except for 2

Yes GS had a great year but I need to see em with another successful season before I say Mark is a better coach than MDA. His track record is much better than Marks and although I don't like Dantoni , he can't totally be discredited because he had Nash.

And how the hell is Houston's management > Los Angeles ?

Mitch is a damn magician so ill need some serious details as to why the Rockets management is better when they haven't been serious contenders since Hakeem left. All they did was use a bunch of cap space for harden but overpay for linsanity at the same dam time.

Serious question what good decision has the Lakers front office made since Dr.Buss stopped making decisions?

Fredo hasn't done anything that has worked out.
 
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What superstar in their right minds is deferring to someone they can't run the offense thru ?

Sure he's a defensive/rebounding machine but offensively he's a cleanup/putback dude point blank , dumping the ball to Dwight in the post 10-20 times wont lead to chips IMO.. Until he becomes a consistent post scorer and passer out of double teams it makes little sense for him to be a 1st option.
Well of the options presented ahead of him, there are two points of interest.

Having Dirk help guide his post game. Having someone to teach you actually in the game may do the trick.

Having McHale, a great PF in his day, as his HC may be the golden ticket to Dwight's success. But, the jury is still out whether he's a good coach or not.

Of the teams still in the race, is it fair to rank them this way?

Best roster: Houston > Golden State> Los Angeles> Dallas > Atlanta

Best Coach: Dallas > Houston = Golden State = Atlanta > Los Angeles

Best management: Dallas > Houston > Los Angeles > Golden State > Atlanta

Legacy: Los Angeles> Houston> Dallas = Golden State > Atlanta

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I hate to use cliches but that old dog ain't learning no new tricks, he's a vet and I doubt he could make more than slight improvements at this point regardless of coaching or instruction.

I agree with most of those roster ranking except for 2

Yes GS had a great year but I need to see em with another successful season before I say Mark is a better coach than MDA. His track record is much better than Marks and although I don't like Dantoni , he can't totally be discredited because he had Nash.

And how the hell is Houston's management > Los Angeles ?

Mitch is a damn magician so ill need some serious details as to why the Rockets management is better when they haven't been serious contenders since Hakeem left. All they did was use a bunch of cap space for harden but overpay for linsanity at the same dam time.
Serious question what good decision has the Lakers front office made since Dr.Buss stopped making decisions?

Fredo hasn't done anything that has worked out.
jim buss/mitch pulled off pau for cp3 (vetoed), and brought in nash and dwight (didnt work out for us but you cant say those were not good decisions)
 
Now that I think about it, if the Dwight trade doesn't happen for the Warriors the fallout will be catastrophic. Could be on the same level as Pau and LO for the Lakers. :smh:
 

If you've seen the version of this with Harden and Lin...:rofl: :rofl:

Now that I think about it, if the Dwight trade doesn't happen for the Warriors the fallout will be catastrophic. Could be on the same level as Pau and LO for the Lakers. :smh:

Was gonna mention the same. As far as the Rockets go, since they wouldn't have to make moves til after he signs, if he doesn't sign, they could easily resign Delfino, Garcia, and Brooks (depending whether or not they're picked up by other teams), and just roll with that team for another year and look toward next FA. I hope that doesn't happen though.
 
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Gil was amnestied by Orlando, but he's still owed his salary.
 
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IMO the only one of those deals that was a slam dunk good decision was the Dwight deal.

I know u don't like the lakers but seriously how many decisions by GMs are a slam dunk ?

It's all a high stakes dice game and most crap out.

90% of these GMs plans fail anyway because at the end of the season only 1 team holds that trophy up.

All I said was LA > Houston in terms of management and u respond by asking what we've done since Buss passed the torch. If u disagree why not start by telling me how the rockets have better management than the Lakers ?
 
IMO the only one of those deals that was a slam dunk good decision was the Dwight deal.

I know u don't like the lakers but seriously how many decisions by GMs are a slam dunk ?

It's all a high stakes dice game and most crap out.

90% of these GMs plans fail anyway because at the end of the season only 1 team holds that trophy up.

All I said was LA > Houston in terms of management and u respond by asking what we've done since Buss passed the torch. If u disagree why not start by telling me how the rockets have better management than the Lakers ?

Because they never hired Mike Brown or Mike Dantoni
 
It's hilarious that the Rockets had Yao chat with Dwight over Skype. Like Yao's gonna persuade him any better than any random off the street
 
IMO the only one of those deals that was a slam dunk good decision was the Dwight deal.

I know u don't like the lakers but seriously how many decisions by GMs are a slam dunk ?
It's all a high stakes dice game and most crap out.
90% of these GMs plans fail anyway because at the end of the season only 1 team holds that trophy up.
All I said was LA > Houston in terms of management and u respond by asking what we've done since Buss passed the torch. If u disagree why not start by telling me how the rockets have better management than the Lakers ?

I don't think Houston's management is better than LA's, but I do think it says something that they've never had to completely bottom out to get somewhere, mostly when Morey was handcuffed by Yao and McGrady's contracts throughout their constant injuries. I do agree with the rest of JA's list though. I was iffy on the Rockets/Warriors rosters, but I think the Rockets being 3-1 against them that year says something.
 
Now that I think about it, if the Dwight trade doesn't happen for the Warriors the fallout will be catastrophic. Could be on the same level as Pau and LO for the Lakers. :smh:

Was gonna mention the same. As far as the Rockets go, since they wouldn't have to make moves til after he signs, if he doesn't sign, they could easily resign Delfino, Garcia, and Brooks (depending whether or not they're picked up by other teams), and just roll with that team for another year and look toward next FA. I hope that doesn't happen though.

Exactly, the Warriors are taking a huge risk by shopping Bogut and Klay/Barnes on the off chance that Dwight might sign with the them. This will create tension between the players and management and might even disrupt team chemistry if the trade doesn't happen.

I know the train of thought in the NBA right now is that if you have the chance to sign Dwight Howard, arguably the best center in the NBA, you do it. But coming off one of the best season in years and having so much young talent do they really want to jeopardize that for a center with no offensive game?
 
IMO the only one of those deals that was a slam dunk good decision was the Dwight deal.
how is trading pau for cp3 a bad decision?

or draft picks for nash? 

both would have worked out well if not for really bad luck (veto and nash being hurt all year)
 
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