Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

[denni5themenace]

Who woulda thought that at the end of the day the Orlando Magic were the biggest winners

it really goes to show that no one should ever judge a trade RIGHT when it goes down. especially with young talent, picks, and cap space involved.

Orlando lost...

They got rid of howard, and got serviceable players who will take them nowhere, drafted Oladipo who im def not sold on but hey who knows

And to top it off has landed themselves in the lottery for the forseeable future yea they def won that trade

were about 1 year removed from the trade. how can you possibly judge the impact it will have on orlando one year out? especially since they got a bunch of young players.

NONE of those big names are even on their traded teams anymore. how can you possibly say that orlando lost out of all the franchises involved in that trade

 

[durantula]

Who woulda thought that at the end of the day the Orlando Magic were the biggest winners

it really goes to show that no one should ever judge a trade RIGHT when it goes down. especially with young talent, picks, and cap space involved.

Orlando lost...

They got rid of howard, and got serviceable players who will take them nowhere, drafted Oladipo who im def not sold on but hey who knows

And to top it off has landed themselves in the lottery for the forseeable future yea they def won that trade

Lakers got dwight, an 8th seed 1st round sweep.. Philly got a dude who didnt play a game. Orlando got oladipo/ lotterpy picks for another year or 2. Plus cap plus some cheap players.

Cause when you trade one of the best players in the league all you want are a serviceable 2 and lottery picks... Nope, as for philly they can be crowned the co-losers

I rather make the playoffs then be in the lottery every time

They made the playoffs once, and got swept, orlando is in a position looking up, LA is in a terrible postion

 

[hypebeast5]

Who woulda thought that at the end of the day the Orlando Magic were the biggest winners

it really goes to show that no one should ever judge a trade RIGHT when it goes down. especially with young talent, picks, and cap space involved.

Orlando lost...

They got rid of howard, and got serviceable players who will take them nowhere, drafted Oladipo who im def not sold on but hey who knows

And to top it off has landed themselves in the lottery for the forseeable future yea they def won that trade

were about 1 year removed from the trade. how can you possibly judge the impact it will have on orlando one year out? especially since they got a bunch of young players.

NONE of those big names are even on their traded teams anymore. how can you possibly say that orlando lost out of all the franchises involved in that trade

Lakers lost? Tho they gave up a player who didnt play a game and was on his way out, to rent a player, that helped them get to the playoffs

And the magic win even tho they are getting lottery picks and losing records

Idk whats to hard to realize that lakers won cause trade netted them more wins than the other teams involved except nugs

 

[Ja's 2¢]

You're straight trollin right now. Have to be.

 

[durantula]

Who woulda thought that at the end of the day the Orlando Magic were the biggest winners

it really goes to show that no one should ever judge a trade RIGHT when it goes down. especially with young talent, picks, and cap space involved.

Orlando lost...

They got rid of howard, and got serviceable players who will take them nowhere, drafted Oladipo who im def not sold on but hey who knows

And to top it off has landed themselves in the lottery for the forseeable future yea they def won that trade

were about 1 year removed from the trade. how can you possibly judge the impact it will have on orlando one year out? especially since they got a bunch of young players.

NONE of those big names are even on their traded teams anymore. how can you possibly say that orlando lost out of all the franchises involved in that trade

Lakers lost? Tho they gave up a player who didnt play a game and was on his way out, to rent a player, that helped them get to the playoffs

And the magic win even tho they are getting lottery picks and losing records

Idk whats to hard to realize that lakers won cause trade netted them more wins than the other teams involved except nugs

Word and OKC won on that harden trade cuz they won more games #logic

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[hypebeast5]

My last bit on this trade

The lakers in the next 5 seasons will make the playoffs more than the magic

Magic got affalo, which is an alright player, and lottery picks. Key word is lottery they arent guaranteed top 3 picks so they are hoping to luck out

If not they will be losing for anywhere from 3 to 6 years, not a good look

 

[durantula]

My last bit on this trade

The lakers in the next 5 seasons will make the playoffs more than the magic

Magic got affalo, which is an alright player, and lottery picks. Key word is lottery they arent guaranteed top 3 picks so they are hoping to luck out

If not they will be losing for anywhere from 3 to 6 years, not a good look

Sure if they sign lebron next year

 

[datznasty]

You may be right about Durant but Weatbrook on the other hand, i don't think there's a chance he stays in okc, I say he goes home to play for one the la teams

I feel as if westbrook just wants to get paid the maximum amount of money, however I can see him leaving if a big market team has a solid team but needs a star.

Westbrook took a significant paycut off his max, basically 3 mil a yr to stay here. He would have been eligible for the "Derrick Rose rule" extension if he would have waited til the end of the season (to be announced all NBA). I still don't doubt 2 of the Big 3 end up getting traded (Presti won't let them make it to free agency, he'll ask them to sign early before their final yr, they say "No I want to explore my options this time around," and he'll have to flip them for something) if we don't have a championship prior the yr before their final seasons under contract so 2015 for KD and 2016 for Russ and Ibaka (since KD is under contract til 16, and the other 2 til 17). I would pump the brakes on some of this Rockets = contenders stuff though. They don't even have a full roster yet and beyond that, there will be growing pains with them getting used to each other and Harden hasn't been stellar in his last 2 playoff series.

Even with not signing a damn body so far (due to offering everybody the minimum and no longer than 1 or 2 yrs) and looking at Fisher and having the worst center in NBA history, OKC is an easy pick for #1 and HCA throughout the playoffs. Our division (Northwest, not the Southwest with all the Texas teams) is horrible and our Big 3 is pretty good, when all of them are present anyways. We're putting WAY too many eggs in the unproven Lamb and Perry Jones basket this year though. He killed the D League sure, but looked extra average in the NBA this far and he doesn't get to the ft line or basket at all like the previous 2 6th men

 

[Ja's 2¢]

So does ATL re-sign Teague? They already lost out on CP3 and D12 anyway unless they think Lou can run the O for them.

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ATL G Jeff Teague's camp has"growing frustation" in how his free agency has been handled with zero meaningful contract discussions, Y!source

 

[durantula]

You may be right about Durant but Weatbrook on the other hand, i don't think there's a chance he stays in okc, I say he goes home to play for one the la teams

I feel as if westbrook just wants to get paid the maximum amount of money, however I can see him leaving if a big market team has a solid team but needs a star.

Westbrook took a significant paycut off his max, basically 3 mil a yr to stay here. He would have been eligible for the "Derrick Rose rule" extension if he would have waited til the end of the season (to be announced all NBA). I still don't doubt 2 of the Big 3 end up getting traded (Presti won't let them make it to free agency, he'll ask them to sign early before their final yr, they say "No I want to explore my options this time around," and he'll have to flip them for something) if we don't have a championship prior the yr before their final seasons under contract so 2015 for KD and 2016 for Russ and Ibaka (since KD is under contract til 16, and the other 2 til 17). I would pump the brakes on some of this Rockets = contenders stuff though. They don't even have a full roster yet and beyond that, there will be growing pains with them getting used to each other and Harden hasn't been stellar in his last 2 playoff series.

Damn I didnt even know that, I dont even know what to think about russ then. Im working under an assumption of us getting J Smoov if we get him were definitley contenders, not saying were the best team or even top 2 for that matter, but were contenders in the west.

 

[finallyfamous]

Long term Orlando won easy

 

[buc em]

I wonder if the Lakers will go after Josh Smith to play the Shawn Marion role in D'Antoni's offense. Kobe ain't gonna be cool with not making an impact move this summer.

 

[Ja's 2¢]

So does ATL re-sign Teague? They already lost out on CP3 and D12 anyway unless they think Lou can run the O for them.

Teague is a RFA?

yeah. but they could always rescind their qualifying offer to make him UFA or let another team sign him to an offer sheet and don't match it. Either way you never know with what Ferry got cookin.

Maybe ATL found a way to bring Schroeder this season.

 

[hypebeast5]

Long term Orlando won easy

In like 5 years they'll be like yea all those wack picks given from other teams made all the difference

Anyone know when the summer league starts i wanna see the savior Oladipo in action

 

[finallyfamous]

How the **** do you know if those picks will be wack or not?

 

[ohmygosher]

OKC stay losing, Watch Brooks play the dude 20+ min a game again :x :

Ken Berger
‏@KBergCBS
In Thunder's search for third point guard in free agency, there is mutual interest between the team and veteran Derek Fisher, source says.

Dudes has to have serious dirt on them.

So does ATL re-sign Teague? They already lost out on CP3 and D12 anyway unless they think Lou can run the O for them.

Marc J. SpearsVerified account
‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
ATL G Jeff Teague's camp has"growing frustation" in how his free agency has been handled with zero meaningful contract discussions, Y!source

Pacers should go after Teague. He's a local kid and exactly what they need.

Edit:

These fools have George Hill under contract til 2017 @ 40 mil. :x

 

[mister friendly]

Why did the Mavericks get Calderon?

I think the Lakers shouldn't try to upgrade their roster this offseason, even if they had retained Dwight and got another great free agent that team wasn't going to be a championship contender.

 

[datznasty]

Long term Orlando won easy

In like 5 years they'll be like yea all those wack picks given from other teams made all the difference

Anyone know when the summer league starts i wanna see the savior Oladipo in action

Orlando Summer League starts Sunday
View media item 482959Vegas Summer League starts on the 12 and is tournament style

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NBA Summer League 2013 Schedule

Friday July 12

COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. New Orleans (Game 1)
3 PM -- Atlanta vs. LA Clippers (Game 2)
5 PM -- Cleveland vs. LA Lakers (Game 3)
7 PM -- Charlotte vs. San Antonio (Game 4)

Saturday July 13

COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Golden State vs. Washington (Game 5)
3 PM -- Sacramento vs. Dallas (Game 6)
5 PM -- Chicago vs. Memphis (Game
7 PM -- Denver vs. Milwaukee (Game 10)

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Minnesota vs. NBA D-League (Game 7)
5:30 PM -- Phoenix vs. Portland (Game 9)
7:30 PM -- Miami vs. Toronto (Game 11)

Sunday July 14

COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. Washington (Game 12)
3 PM -- Charlotte vs. Dallas (Game 14)
5 PM -- Cleveland vs. Memphis (Game 16)
7 PM -- Atlanta vs. Miami (Game 1

Thomas & Mack
1:30 PM -- LA Clippers vs. NBA D-League (Game 13)
3:30 PM -- LA Lakers vs. Portland (Game 15)
5:30 PM -- New Orleans vs. Milwaukee (Game 17)
7:30 PM -- San Antonio vs. Toronto (Game 19)

Monday July 15

COX Pavilion
1 PM -- New York vs. Charlotte (Game 20)
3 PM -- Cleveland vs. New Orleans (Game 21)
5 PM -- LA Clippers vs. LA Lakers (Game 23)
7 PM -- San Antonio vs. Atlanta (Game 25)

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Minnesota vs. Phoenix (Game 22)
5:30 PM -- Sacramento vs. Golden State (Game 24)
7:30 PM -- Chicago vs. Denver (Game 26)

Tuesday July 16

COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Minnesota vs. Miami (Game 27)
3 PM -- Sacramento vs. Toronto (Game 2
5 PM -- Chicago vs. Portland (Game 30)
7 PM -- Denver vs. Washington (Game 32)

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Golden State vs. Milwaukee (Game 29)
5:30 PM -- Phoenix vs. Memphis (Game 31)
7:30 PM -- Dallas vs. NBA D-League (Game 33)

Wednesday July 17

COX Pavilion
3 PM -- #11 Seed vs. #22 Seed (Game 34)
5 PM -- #13 Seed vs. #20 Seed (Game 36)
7 PM -- #15 Seed vs. #18 Seed (Game 3

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- #12 Seed vs. #21 Seed (Game 35)
5:30 PM -- #14 Seed vs. #19 Seed (Game 37)
7:30 PM -- #16 Seed vs. #17 Seed (Game 39)

Thursday July 18

COX Pavilion
1 PM -- #7 Seed vs. #10 Seed (Game 40)
3 PM -- #6 Seed vs. Winner of Game 34 (Game 42)
5 PM -- #4 Seed vs. Winner of Game 36 (Game 44)
7 PM -- #2 Seed vs. Winner of Game 38 (Game 46)

Thomas & Mack
1:30 PM - #8 Seed vs. #9 Seed (Game 41)
3:30 PM -- #5 Seed vs. Winner of Game 35 (Game 43)
5:30 PM -- #3 Seed vs. Winner of Game 37 (Game 45)
7:30 PM -- #1 Seed vs. Winner of Game 39 (Game 47)

Friday July 19

COX Pavilion
1 PM -- Game 34 Loser vs. Game 35 Loser (Game 4
3 PM -- Game 36 Loser vs. Game 37 Loser (Game 49)
5 PM -- Game 40 Loser vs. Game 41 Loser (Game 50)
7 PM -- Game 44 Loser vs. Game 45 Loser (Game 51)

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM -- Game 38 Loser vs. Game 39 Loser (Game 52)
5:30 PM -- Game 42 Loser vs. Game 43 Loser (Game 53)
7:30 PM -- Game 46 Loser vs. Game 47 Loser (Game 54)

Saturday July 20

Thomas & Mack
1 PM -- Game 40 Winner vs. Game 46 Winner (Game 55)
3 PM -- Game 42 Winner vs. Game 45 Winner (Game 56)
5 PM -- Game 41 Winner vs. Game 47 Winner (Game 57)
7 PM -- Game 43 Winner vs. Game 44 Winner (Game 5

Sunday July 21

Thomas & Mack
3 PM -- Game 55 Winner vs. Game 56 Winner (Game 59)
5 PM -- Game 57 Winner vs. Game 58 Winner (Game 60)

Monday July 22

Thomas & Mack
6 PM -- Game 59 Winner vs. Game 60 Winner (Game 61)

 

[Ja's 2¢]

So does ATL re-sign Teague? They already lost out on CP3 and D12 anyway unless they think Lou can run the O for them.

Marc J. SpearsVerified account
‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
ATL G Jeff Teague's camp has"growing frustation" in how his free agency has been handled with zero meaningful contract discussions, Y!source

Pacers should go after Teague. He's a local kid and exactly what they need.

S/T for Granger + picks?

Why did the Mavericks get Calderon?

I think the Lakers shouldn't try to upgrade their roster this offseason, even if they had retained Dwight and got another great free agent that team wasn't going to be a championship contender.

They don't trust Collison to run O. They went and got themselves a true playmaker in Calderon.

 

[hypebeast5]

Good looks bro

 

[datznasty]

Yuku'd

 

[jj watt]

yeah. but they could always rescind their qualifying offer to make him UFA or let another team sign him to an offer sheet and don't match it. Either way you never know with what Ferry got cookin.

Maybe ATL found a way to bring Schroeder this season.

Hawks confuse, they seem to be in that perpetual loop of the bottom 4 seeds in the east.

It's like they don't want to blow it up, but can't lure that big player, so they put out a good enough product to keep the team competive and the fans interested.

They let J.Smith walk, which I understand, but sign Milsap, so now your gonna have Al playing out of position again.

Why not flip J to Houston for Asik before signing Milsap ?

Now they have Teague, who I thought was their PG of the future, draft Dennis.

Idk man

 

[Ja's 2¢]

^reports saying though ATL may go after Pek so that would solve AL's position problem.

 

[CP1708]

Who woulda thought that at the end of the day the Orlando Magic were the biggest winners

it really goes to show that no one should ever judge a trade RIGHT when it goes down. especially with young talent, picks, and cap space involved.

Orlando lost...

They got rid of howard, and got serviceable players who will take them nowhere, drafted Oladipo who im def not sold on but hey who knows

And to top it off has landed themselves in the lottery for the forseeable future yea they def won that trade

Yes, Vucevic, Harkless, Harris and Oladipo all in 12 months time along with a possible top 3-5 upcoming, yeah, they lost.



That is a tremendous haul bud, you out your mind right now.

 

[jj watt]

I'm sure Minny is gonna match a Pek offer unless it's some out of this world thing.

If healthy, that's a playoff team.