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[B Sox]

Or I just know the Usos/Henry aren't going to beat them so might as well channel surf for a bit

Agree with this...I don't think anyone really cares about the Usos. Them never being on the mic probably has a bit to do with this. If you gave The Shield a better matchup, people would be more interested. Instead we are going over basically the same storyline we had going into MITB, except we are now adding in Face Henry, which is not as interesting as Heel Henry.

 

[B Sox]

I'm a big fan of The Shield and I will admittedly say that I have no interest in their feud with the Usos. I thought they put on a great match at MITB, but it's not something that I need to see again because the Usos don't really have much of a storyline. I sort of feel the same way about Christian/Del Rio. While I know they will put on a solid match, their storylines are extremely weak, especially with Christian. I just feel like there should be some better feuds leading up to what is supposed to be the 2nd biggest PPV of the year.

 

[Bend_The_Knee]

- There are people within WWE questioning why NXT Women’s Champion Paige is being kept in Florida because of the unwritten WWE rule about not wanting anyone under 21 on the road with the crew, when Total Diva Jo Jo Offerman has been brought on the road and she’s just 19 years old.

Regarding Jo Jo’s relationship with Justin Gabriel on Total Divas, apparently the storyline is that Gabriel will take advantage of her naivety. This could mean a heel turn coming for Gabriel.






- At last word, WWE Intercontinental Champion Curtis Axel won’t be featured at SummerSlam. He could be added to the pre-show or something.





- Despite not being cleared to wrestle yet, Big Show is still booked to team with Mark Henry and face Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose in a 2-on-3 match at SummerSlam. Show could be returning on the August 5th RAW.






- WWE officials are trying to work out a deal with E! that would see some of their other reality TV show celebrities to make appearances at SummerSlam.


Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

 

[Bend_The_Knee]

- WWE reported their 2013 second quarter financial results prior to the market opening this morning. Here are updated pay-per-view buys from the report:

* WrestleMania 29 – 1,039,000 buys

* Extreme Rules – 231,000 buys

* WWE Payback – 186,000 buys

 

[jewbacca]

- WWE reported their 2013 second quarter financial results prior to the market opening this morning. Here are updated pay-per-view buys from the report:

* WrestleMania 29 – 1,039,000 buys

* Extreme Rules – 231,000 buys

* WWE Payback – 186,000 buys

How do these compare to previous years?

 

[B Sox]

So going into Summerslam, WWE has no idea what they want to do with the Intercontinental, US, and Tag Team belts. Makes sense.

 

[rell826]

- There are people within WWE questioning why NXT Women’s Champion Paige is being kept in Florida because of the unwritten WWE rule about not wanting anyone under 21 on the road with the crew, when Total Diva Jo Jo Offerman has been brought on the road and she’s just 19 years old.

Regarding Jo Jo’s relationship with Justin Gabriel on Total Divas, apparently the storyline is that Gabriel will take advantage of her naivety. This could mean a heel turn coming for Gabriel.






- At last word, WWE Intercontinental Champion Curtis Axel won’t be featured at SummerSlam. He could be added to the pre-show or something.





- Despite not being cleared to wrestle yet, Big Show is still booked to team with Mark Henry and face Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose in a 2-on-3 match at SummerSlam. Show could be returning on the August 5th RAW.






- WWE officials are trying to work out a deal with E! that would see some of their other reality TV show celebrities to make appearances at SummerSlam.


Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

-WWEs hypocrisy at work again. The only reason JoJo is on the road is because they want to promote Total Divas. What's worse is that she's reportedly awful in the ring.

-So no Intercontinental Championship on the main show. Makes sense.

-Big Show and Mark Henry teaming up . They really do think we have the attention span of children. Henry was the one who put Show out of commission during his heel run.

 

[Cashflow]

-WWEs hypocrisy at work again. The only reason JoJo is on the road is because they want to promote Total Divas. What's worse is that she's reportedly awful in the ring.
-So no Intercontinental Championship on the main show. Makes sense.
-Big Show and Mark Henry teaming up . They really do think we have the attention span of children. Henry was the one who put Show out of commission during his heel run.

The problem is the kids they are really targeting do have short term memory.

The Shield's current problem is in the fact that they went over absolutely everyone their first few months so now there isn't anyone realistic left for them to feud with. Especially if the E isn't trying to have them lose.

Justin "Chris Hansen" Gabriel

 

[4wrestling]

alot of people i think knew that raw wasnt live so probably didnt watch so i dont really think the viewer drops matter but thats just my opinion

What difference does it make if Raw is taped or live?  400k people tuned out for this segment.

 

[4wrestling]

- At last word, WWE Intercontinental Champion Curtis Axel won’t be featured at SummerSlam. He could be added to the pre-show or something.
 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LAW3001 

 

[4wrestling]

- WWE reported their 2013 second quarter financial results prior to the market opening this morning. Here are updated pay-per-view buys from the report:

* WrestleMania 29 – 1,039,000 buys

* Extreme Rules – 231,000 buys

* WWE Payback – 186,000 buys

How do these compare to previous years?

WM 28 - 1,217,000 (note: WM 29 cost more and generated more revenue)

Extreme Rules 2012 - 263,000 (Brock Lesnar's debut vs Cena)

Over the Limit 2012 - 167,000

 

[D Fly]

They should team him with JTG.

Dat Will & Carlton dynamic.

Do it Vince

 

[DCAllAfrican]

When is Ron mysterio coming back?

 

[rell826]

When is Ron mysterio coming back?

Hopefully never.

 

[4wrestling]

When is Ron mysterio coming back?

Most likely never.  Certainly not as a full time or part time wrestler.  He may come back for just some sort of sendoff.  But there is a lot of tension with both sides.  Mysterio would rather finish up his career in Mexico.

 

[rrlegend]

So it's been over a year since Brock has come back what's every bodies opinion on this ? I loved the debut of him coming out and f5ing cena , I love the way he punted the ish out of that cap out the ring, but everything else not so much

 

[DCAllAfrican]

So it's been over a year since Brock has come back what's every bodies opinion on this ? I loved the debut of him coming out and f5ing cena , I love the way he punted the ish out of that cap out the ring, but everything else not so much

Shouldn't have lost to anyone.
Shouldn't have did anything with HHH.

 

[4wrestling]

So it's been over a year since Brock has come back what's every bodies opinion on this ? I loved the debut of him coming out and f5ing cena , I love the way he punted the ish out of that cap out the ring, but everything else not so much

Shouldn't have lost to anyone.
Shouldn't have did anything with HHH.

Not saying he shouldn't have lost, but he shouldn't have lost his first match.  He should have been undefeated going into WrestleMania to build up a huge match.  He could suffer his first loss there.

And like DC said, tying him up with HHH for so long was a complete waste.

 

[twentyseven]

its AUGUST you bums

you know what that means???????

NTWT

Spoiler: Warning%3A%20Spoiler!

8/18/13

 

[killabapi]

Regarding Jo Jo’s relationship with Justin Gabriel on Total Divas, apparently the storyline is that Gabriel will take advantage of her naivety. This could mean a heel turn coming for Gabriel.

dont know why i find this so funny

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I suggest a few things.

1. Everyone watch the CM Punk documentary
2. Everyone listen to the Review-A-Wai of the CM Punk documentary

http://fightnetwork.com/news/34176:review-a-wai-cm-punk-dvd-w-colt-cabana/


28 Signs You're A Pro Wrestling Fan http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrctheamazing/28-signs-youre-a-pro-wrestling-fan-ap6l

 

[DCAllAfrican]

This is the dude that I said reminded me of Bo Dallas's father. Also, it is funny how WCW doesn't pay attention. This was Juventud's 2nd WCW match and it is funny that he came out to Eddy Guerrero's music at the time. I wonder if someone was legitimately confused at the names.

09.09.1996 - Juventud Guerrera vs Joe Gomez - WCW Nitro #52 - YouTube






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RT @davemeltzerWON: Regal on being a pro wrestler in 2013 at http://t.co/gVRXyH0Abs

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

My tips on becoming a Pro Wrestler/Sports Entertainer for those who've asked.
It takes a lot more work to being a WWE superstar than an few Pro Wrestling holds and throws. You must develop all your skills and that usually comes from help from more experienced pro's. I never had to be told to ask for help and guidance and never to this day stop working on my skills. Sitting round texting, playing games and whining will get you know where. No one owes you a living.

Firstly,know what you're getting into.Pro Wrestling is a very physically demanding business.If you can't stand pain,hard work or lots of traveling,DON'T WASTE YOURS OR EVERYBODY ELSE'S TIME!

So that I don't come across like a miserable old git (insert joke), I will happily give some free advice to up and coming Pro Wrestlers:

Find a school with a good rep and a trainer who has a great pedigree.
Learn the basics properly.Get and stay in good condition,there's a big difference from looking in condition to actually being in condition.I'm a believer in Hindu squats,Hindu push ups and most importantly proper bridging(nose on mat,feet flat on mat).Work hard and have respect for the job.Good manners go a long way.Treat people the way you would like to be treated.Enjoy it.

Now once you are training:

- Make everything you do mean something or don't bother doing it.

- Study the greats and the people who the great ones admire.Very important.
Some very wise words from Jim Ross(J.R)-"If I were a young in ring talent in today's world then DVD study of my predecessors would be a a regular part of my weekly routine just as is going to the gym and eating smartly. Some talents will spend more time 'tanning,' playing video games, etc than watching the work of stars of previous generations which is somewhat pathetic when one thinks about it".


- Get a good base of basics and perfect them.Don't take this for granted.

- Work at perfecting your skills but be honest with yourself. If there are things you don't do well then avoid doing them.

- Try to find someone who will give you an honest answer about your skills. Most people's ego won't allow them to think they do things badly.

- Practice your talking skills. Use a mirror and film yourself and work on every detail, facials, eyes and mannerisms.Learn a one minute promo and perfect it.Now do the same promo with the same words but in as many different emotions you can,happy, mad, sad,glad , grateful,on the verge of a breakdown
indifferent etc.Now when you get good at this you will be able to interchange several emotions in one promo.
- Look to the world to find things that you can use to develop your character. Films, TV shows and anything else that grabs your attention.

- Learn how to read people's emotions. This tip is invaluable. People don't just boo or cheer. You have to learn how to make them.

Only one in a million has the Elvis factor(old reference but I can't think of a better one).If you truly have that quality then you can get away with anything but the majority of us don't so don't take your skills for granted.I believe that that the more time you put into learning the details the better and longer your career will be.

Watch this match and really study everything they do.You should aim for this standard if you are interested in technical wrestling

I know I'm the last person you want to listen to about physique training but it's very important these days.From seeing how the smart people train now it seems as though compound movements like squats,deadlifts etc build better,more functional,resilient bodies for our business.Bodybuilding movements don't.Like I said,this is just what I see and hear .

Learn from the mistakes of the people who have come before you (including me) and try not to make them.

To make it in the WWE you have to be very adaptable and willing to make any character or opportunity work.Heres some very good advise.Make a list of the worst possible situations and character traits you could be asked to do.Now make up a character and promos involving those traits and work on perfecting that character and promo(on your own otherwise you'll get locked up).Make those things second nature.Now you've taken away some of your fears so whatever you are asked to do should be easier.Dont skip this task.Very few people who come to the WWE end up being the character they envisioned.
.
The most important things you have to make you connect with an audience are your eyes.If you believe in yourself and your persona it will be evident in your eyes.You cannot show any real emotion without your eyes.So,if you're interested in being taken seriously then never wear anything to cover them.This will offend a lot of people but you don't look cool wearing sunglasses indoors.You look a divvy.There are many big stars who have worn them but you'll find most will take them off when they're making a serious point or they just have that special magic that only 1 in a million have.If you need an example of this,do you trust anyone who you meet who can't look you in the eyes?

A tip from Roddy Piper: Always wrestle from your heart.It sounds simply but it's not.Don't play at pro wrestling.

A tip I think will keep you constantly working on your skill set:Go out every night thinking that no one knows you.By doing this you will never take your audience or yourself for granted and show them exactly what you are and what your character is all about. This will keep you working on the details and the true essence of how to tell stories to the people watching.

As far as storytelling goes.Just imagine theres an announcer explaining everything you do to the people watching.Does it make sense?Does it look good? Think about this.When you go to a movie,do you want to see the stuntman jumping out of the helicopter or do you want to imagine its the star.This all ties into trying to perfect the detail of your stuff.If someone is watching Wrestling for the first time,is what you're doing making sense to them.Figure all that out and you should be a lot better at story telling.

Just my opinion but if you want to have a long career then study as many different wrestling styles as many of today's top starts have an international feel to their styles.There are lots of Wrestlers from around the world and you want to be able to wrestle all of them if you want to stay relevant. Study what's going on in the industry as you don't want to be left behind.A lot of the fellas I see that can only do one style seem a bit outdated against some of the talent who have learned different styles.
Everyone takes ideas from others but make them your own. Try to be original. Be a one off.

That's enough for today. Sounds simple enough but very few put those ideas into practice. Use common sense. Everything is in those tweets. Figure them out. In other words don't be a div. I can't hold your hand.

 

[nomnom]

Dang, out of the 8 years that HBK had after that, he only had one world title and it lasted one month 

 

[nomnom]

One of the best Survivor Series 5v5 matches, imo.

 

[4wrestling]

Regarding Jo Jo’s relationship with Justin Gabriel on Total Divas, apparently the storyline is that Gabriel will take advantage of her naivety. This could mean a heel turn coming for Gabriel.



 

dont know why i find this so funny

The fact that I didn't even know Gabriel was still employed