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OFFICIAL 2013 FANTASY FOOTBALL TALK
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^Aye pump the breaks there uncle Rico.
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also depends on how many teams in your league. i think megatron is a beast but in 12 or 14 team leagues i prob have to take him at the 5 spot. ap , doug martin , charles and foster and it would be tempting to take him ahead of foster but i want solid rb's on my team. im setting my kds 1-3 and 14-4 in most leagues this year. kds ( kentucky derby style ) is a great way for teams to get where they want to draft in most cases. here is a copy of how it works. you might want to use it in your leagues.
A: The KDS process allows owners to rank their order of preference for Draft Day, ranking their preferences from most desired to least desired BEFORE the leagues are randomly selected. Some owners would rather draft at the top, if they are selected early in their league; others like to go to the middle, and others like to move down to the lower end. KDS allows that if you're fortunate enough. A sample KDS from an owner could look like this: 1, 2, 3, 14, 13, 8, 6, 7, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12. If an owner wants the 14th pick if he is selected fourth overall in his league, he would choose 14 as his fourth option and he would then be moved to 14th in that league on Draft Day if he was picked fourth out of the hat and the top three preferences were gone. NFFC officials will look at every owner's Draft Preferences list after the leagues and orders are randomly selected and then announce the draft orders for each league.
How Is It Done?: Once each NFFC owner has officially signed up for the contest, they can find this feature on their team page. You'll see the Draft Preferences ranked 1 through 14 (or 1-12 in 12 team leagues) and the option to change those preferences next to them. If you decide not to rank your preferences, your preferred order will remain 1 through 14 (or 1-12). Owners can change their Draft Preferences right up until the announced deadline is set for that particular league.
Why Is This Done?: Even though all leagues are randomly selected out of a computer program, KDS does allow owners to have a little say in their draft spots. KDS allows that by telling NFFC officials where you'd prefer to draft if selected early in the random draw. No longer are you just slotted into that spot; you now can tell us a more preferred spot by setting your KDS preferences. In the end, most NFFC owners will get a more preferred draft spot than the random slot would have given them
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Personally I'm not taking Calvin Johnson as a first round pick even in a PPR unless its a 12 man league and its pick 11 or 12
The variance in points from him to a guy you can get in the 2nd or 3rd round isn't high enough IMO.
Last year my starting WR were Demayrius Thomas and Percy and I didn't take them til the 5th and 6th rounds. If you do enough research I think you can find value at WR like that every year.
Now with all that being said I didn't make the playoffs in that league because the RBs I thought I had loaded my team with didn't perform.
The variance in points from him to a guy you can get in the 2nd or 3rd round isn't high enough IMO.
Last year my starting WR were Demayrius Thomas and Percy and I didn't take them til the 5th and 6th rounds. If you do enough research I think you can find value at WR like that every year.
Now with all that being said I didn't make the playoffs in that league because the RBs I thought I had loaded my team with didn't perform.
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Whaaaa?
Dude has almost 8,000 yards in 90 games, with 54 TD's, and another receiver comes close to that, that you can get in round 2-3? Who the **** might they be?
If you takin a Jamal Charles at the end of round 1 vs a Reggie Bush in round 2-3, the difference there is small as hell too. Bottom line is for 16 weeks, Calvin gives you a better than 50% chance at A, a 100 yard game, B, a TD, C, both. No other receiver outside of AJ or Dez get anywhere close to that feel all year long. And both those guys only done it for a year or so. Calvin is legit for 5 years now. EVERY week, he puts points up. Andre don't. Larry don't. Jennings didn't. Marshall doesn't. Welker does, but still less than Calvin. Randy Moss used to.
Calvin to Green isn't a huge gap, but after that, it's a WIDE gap. Calvin to the #3-4-5-6 WR is much bigger than #1 RB to #5 RB. And less risk of injury for a WR than a RB that takes the rock 25+ times a game. Many more chances for damage.
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you made a great point. guys like rice , shady , trich , spiller can all be taken before him. the only thing is injury factor to some of these rb's. you need your top two picks to be solid so you can win the league in latter round picks.
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Whaaaa?
Dude has almost 8,000 yards in 90 games, with 54 TD's, and another receiver comes close to that, that you can get in round 2-3? Who the **** might they be?
If you takin a Jamal Charles at the end of round 1 vs a Reggie Bush in round 2-3, the difference there is small as hell too. Bottom line is for 16 weeks, Calvin gives you a better than 50% chance at A, a 100 yard game, B, a TD, C, both. No other receiver outside of AJ or Dez get anywhere close to that feel all year long. And both those guys only done it for a year or so. Calvin is legit for 5 years now. EVERY week, he puts points up. Andre don't. Larry don't. Jennings didn't. Marshall doesn't. Welker does, but still less than Calvin. Randy Moss used to.
Calvin to Green isn't a huge gap, but after that, it's a WIDE gap. Calvin to the #3-4-5-6 WR is much bigger than #1 RB to #5 RB. And less risk of injury for a WR than a RB that takes the rock 25+ times a game. Many more chances for damage.
In my money PPR league Calvin scored 38 more points than Andre Johnson, 33 more than Demayrius, hell 46 more than Eric Decker.
Calvin was the 5th pick. Demayrius went in the 5th, Decker like the 8 and Andre in the 4th.
The difference from the top scoring RB to say the 8th in this league is 120 points. That's season changing variance.
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but dont forget your going to be chasing rb's and while you chase rb's the second teir of wr's will be going. this makes you have to draft a perfect draft when you take a wr that high. balance is a key to a good team.Whaaaa?
Dude has almost 8,000 yards in 90 games, with 54 TD's, and another receiver comes close to that, that you can get in round 2-3? Who the **** might they be?
If you takin a Jamal Charles at the end of round 1 vs a Reggie Bush in round 2-3, the difference there is small as hell too. Bottom line is for 16 weeks, Calvin gives you a better than 50% chance at A, a 100 yard game, B, a TD, C, both. No other receiver outside of AJ or Dez get anywhere close to that feel all year long. And both those guys only done it for a year or so. Calvin is legit for 5 years now. EVERY week, he puts points up. Andre don't. Larry don't. Jennings didn't. Marshall doesn't. Welker does, but still less than Calvin. Randy Moss used to.
Calvin to Green isn't a huge gap, but after that, it's a WIDE gap. Calvin to the #3-4-5-6 WR is much bigger than #1 RB to #5 RB. And less risk of injury for a WR than a RB that takes the rock 25+ times a game. Many more chances for damage.
Calvin had over 40 catches and 900 yards more than Decker, good for only 46 points?
It was the anomaly of Calvin getting tackled at the 1-2 yard line like 4 times last year. He had 16 the year before, 12 before that, and another 12 in 08 I believe.
And he still had 10 grabs, and 400 yards on Andre who got into the end zone less than Calvin did.
Even at 38 points, that's 3 per week in a 12 week season (fantasy)
And Peterson was historic last year, and not something easily doable for that position. As I said, Calvin left a lot of TD's on the board, even if he slips to 16-1,700 yards, he comes up to 10 TD's, his points dwarf other receivers by damn near 5-6 a week this year.
And that's not even expecting any improvement from him or Stafford.
It was the anomaly of Calvin getting tackled at the 1-2 yard line like 4 times last year. He had 16 the year before, 12 before that, and another 12 in 08 I believe.
And he still had 10 grabs, and 400 yards on Andre who got into the end zone less than Calvin did.
Even at 38 points, that's 3 per week in a 12 week season (fantasy)
And Peterson was historic last year, and not something easily doable for that position. As I said, Calvin left a lot of TD's on the board, even if he slips to 16-1,700 yards, he comes up to 10 TD's, his points dwarf other receivers by damn near 5-6 a week this year.
And that's not even expecting any improvement from him or Stafford.
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Calvin had over 40 catches and 900 yards more than Decker, good for only 46 points?
It was the anomaly of Calvin getting tackled at the 1-2 yard line like 4 times last year. He had 16 the year before, 12 before that, and another 12 in 08 I believe.
And he still had 10 grabs, and 400 yards on Andre who got into the end zone less than Calvin did.
Even at 38 points, that's 3 per week in a 12 week season (fantasy)
And Peterson was historic last year, and not something easily doable for that position. As I said, Calvin left a lot of TD's on the board, even if he slips to 16-1,700 yards, he comes up to 10 TD's, his points dwarf other receivers by damn near 5-6 a week this year.
And that's not even expecting any improvement from him or Stafford.
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I don't know man our point system is pretty standard PPR. 1 point per reception, TDs over 50 get 1 point and 100 yard games get 1 point
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should i start dwayne allen [vs oak] over antonio gates [vs HOU]?
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Doug Martin and CJ Spiller are my top two players in all of fantasy.
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Probably can hold off a couple weeks before worrying about starting guys.
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Over AP??? Crazy
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anyone interested in an IDP PPR money league PM me. its 12 teams but we can go to 14 if theres enough interest.
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Well said cp and sneaker pro
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Calvin had over 40 catches and 900 yards more than Decker, good for only 46 points?
It was the anomaly of Calvin getting tackled at the 1-2 yard line like 4 times last year. He had 16 the year before, 12 before that, and another 12 in 08 I believe.
And he still had 10 grabs, and 400 yards on Andre who got into the end zone less than Calvin did.
Even at 38 points, that's 3 per week in a 12 week season (fantasy)
And Peterson was historic last year, and not something easily doable for that position. As I said, Calvin left a lot of TD's on the board, even if he slips to 16-1,700 yards, he comes up to 10 TD's, his points dwarf other receivers by damn near 5-6 a week this year.
And that's not even expecting any improvement from him or Stafford.
One more thing even taking AP outta the equation the different between the number two scoring RB and the 9th is still higher than the difference between Calvin and the 9th.
I'm still not drafting a WR in any league until the 4th or 5th round at the earliest. Now if I get the 11th or 12th pick in a snake draft I'll think about Calvin but I'd still probably take a RB. Maybe emm Brees or Rodgers.
My dream start to my draft goes like this(PPR, 6 points per TD, teams)
1. Spiller, Martin, AP, Lesean
2. Forte(always goes late in this league for some reason)Chris Johnson, MJD
3. Reggie Bush, or Darren Sproiles
4. Reggie Wayne, Roddy White, Vincent Jackson
5. Danny Amendola, Steve Smith,
6. Stafford, Ryan,
I feel the same way about Danny Amendola as I did Demayrius last year. Either you are getting top 8 production out of him or he's getting hurt. If he's on the field he's going to ball out.
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I have the 14th pick is there any possible way that i can win?
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Of course you can win having late draft picks isn't always a bad thing you just have to pay close attention to the picks available to you.
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Alright 14th out of 14th plus there are keepers. Still a possiblitly?
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pick 8-12
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yes stop asking silly questions.
who are your keepers, and who are the leagues keepers so we can gauge where you need help and what will be available to you?
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Here's a pic of last year's draft from the league I run. It was our first year switching up the rules (2QB, 6pt pass TD, PPR) so most people screwed around with their draft strategy. Still pretty cool to see where some guys went. RG3 in the 8th :x, Doug Martin in the 9th :x :x, Alfred Morris in the 16th (taken by me 
, but later dropped 
), among others. 'Squilla' had the best team by far throughout the season but I ended up beating him in the 2nd round of the playoffs thanks to Russell Wilson, Tom Brady and Aaron Hernandez. Me and 'Evan' went to the championship and he beat me, even though I robbed Doug Martin from him in a trade 2 weeks before he went off . His tandem of Megatron, AJ Green, and Julio Jones was just too much.
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, but later dropped ), among others. 'Squilla' had the best team by far throughout the season but I ended up beating him in the 2nd round of the playoffs thanks to Russell Wilson, Tom Brady and Aaron Hernandez. Me and 'Evan' went to the championship and he beat me, even though I robbed Doug Martin from him in a trade 2 weeks before he went off . His tandem of Megatron, AJ Green, and Julio Jones was just too much.View media item 538218
