DC Studios THREAD - GunnVerse Begins - Chapter ONE: Gods & Monsters

sunshineblotters said:
seandon23 said:
ive seen that on Netflix I think and I've been curious to check it out. Might have to watch it now
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Do it. Adapted some cool Marvel stories too. Secret Invasion, Ultron Imperative (basically animated AoU except better), Ballad of Beta Ray Bill (their version of BRB's first appearance in the comics), etc.

Also the only time Kang has been done right outside of the comics. That show is :smokin
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Agreed all around. Earth's Mightiest Heroes was solid. Shame they cancelled it just so we could have another Avengers show, this one with more characters from the original Cinematic team. :smh:
 
Might watch a few eps of tas again. Not looking forward to the struggle standard definition though.
 
Old school Spiderman cartoon from the 90s. Batman Beyond cartoon. Earth's Mightiest Heroes (especially season 1 with the theme song opening) Darkwing Duck (Yea, I had to take it there) :pimp: :pimp:

Never seen Young Justice. I'll watch it, but it can't have been that great if it was cancelled early.
 
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amel223 said:
Never seen Young Justice. I'll watch it, but it can't have been that great if it was cancelled early.
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Come on son :smh: Get that logic out of here. Yes, a show can be cancelled because its terrible, but that's not always the case. While it was on the air Young Justice got amazing reviews, and doubled/tripled the overall viewing and rating numbers for Cartoon Network's DC Nation block. Even the voice actors were praised for being able to capture the characters so well. You then had, as with other animated series, YJ even effecting the comics to some extent, with Aqua Lad being adapted into the comics from the show, just like Harley Quinn was from BTAS. This show even led to Artemis appearing in the comics

If anything should be blamed for the show being cancelled its the network. They kept putting it on hiatus, changing its airing time, and then after they cancelled wouldn't renew it for a 3rd season, despite the fact that there was a massive amount of support for them to do so via the fans.
 
Jays25 said:
Come on son :smh: Get that logic out of here. Yes, a show can be cancelled because its terrible, but that's not always the case. While it was on the air Young Justice got amazing reviews, and doubled/tripled the overall viewing and rating numbers for Cartoon Network's DC Nation block. Even the voice actors were praised for being able to capture the characters so well. You then had, as with other animated series, YJ even effecting the comics to some extent, with Aqua Lad being adapted into the comics from the show, just like Harley Quinn was from BTAS. This show even led to Artemis appearing in the comics

If anything should be blamed for the show being cancelled its the network. They kept putting it on hiatus, changing its airing time, and then after they cancelled wouldn't renew it for a 3rd season, despite the fact that there was a massive amount of support for them to do so via the fans.
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And for the record, just so I don't read that foolishness again, YJ was cancelled because it didn't sell enough toys. That's literally the ONLY reason
 
:rofl: :rofl: at thinking that the only reason shows get cancelled is because they must suck
 
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KingdomFlatbush said:
And for the record, just so I don't read that foolishness again, YJ was cancelled because it didn't sell enough toys. That's literally the ONLY reason
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Yeah I hear that Cartoon Network cares way more for the merchandising that comes from the shows than its quality. Sucks when I found that as well man :smh:
 
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I also vaguely remember Paul Dini saying a year or so ago that audiences these days wants goofier show and that is why Teen Titans Go are still on the air and continuously getting new episodes. This is also based on the trends and popularity of shows like Adventure Time (I think Dini even cited this particular show) being preferable by kids and young adults just isn't a strong target.

And of course those kids has the parents that buy merchandise so it ties in together with that too.
 
Makes sense.

Adventure Time>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Teen Titans Go though.
 
KingdomFlatbush said:
Jays25 said:
Come on son :smh: Get that logic out of here. Yes, a show can be cancelled because its terrible, but that's not always the case. While it was on the air Young Justice got amazing reviews, and doubled/tripled the overall viewing and rating numbers for Cartoon Network's DC Nation block. Even the voice actors were praised for being able to capture the characters so well. You then had, as with other animated series, YJ even effecting the comics to some extent, with Aqua Lad being adapted into the comics from the show, just like Harley Quinn was from BTAS. This show even led to Artemis appearing in the comics

If anything should be blamed for the show being cancelled its the network. They kept putting it on hiatus, changing its airing time, and then after they cancelled wouldn't renew it for a 3rd season, despite the fact that there was a massive amount of support for them to do so via the fans.
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And for the record, just so I don't read that foolishness again, YJ was cancelled because it didn't sell enough toys. That's literally the ONLY reason
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Paul Dini: Superhero cartoon execs don't want largely female audiences

In an interview with Kevin Smith, writer and television producer Paul Dini complained about a worrying trend he sees in television animation and superhero shows in particular: executives spurning female viewers because they believe girls and women don't buy the shows' toys.

Vi at agelfeygelach transcribed part of Dini's conversation with Smith on the Fat Man on Batman podcast, during which he talks about the cancellation of Young Justice, Green Lantern: The Animated Series, and Tower Prep. He explains that studios are looking to capture younger male viewers, "boys who are into goofy humor, goofy random humor," and that they aren't interested in the older Young Justice audience.

The key quotes come when Dini starts talking about the problems that he says executives perceive with female viewers (emphasis is Vi's):

DINI: "They're all for boys 'we do not want the girls', I mean, I've heard executives say this, you know, not [where I am] but at other places, saying like, 'We do not want girls watching this show."

SMITH: "WHY? That's 51% of the population."

DINI: "They. Do. Not. Buy. Toys. The girls buy different toys. The girls may watch the show—"

SMITH: "So you can sell them T-shirts if they don't—A: I disagree, I think girls buy toys as well, I mean not as many as f***ing boys do, but, B: sell them something else, man! Don't be lazy and be like, 'well I can't sell a girl a toy.' Sell 'em a T-shirt, man, sell them f***ing umbrella with the f***ing character on it, something like that. But if it's not a toy, there's something else you could sell 'em! Like, just because you can't figure out your job, don't kill chances of, like, something that's gonna reach an audi—that's just so self-defeating, when people go, like… these are the same ******* who go, like, 'Oh, girls don't read comics, girls aren't into comics.' It's all self-fulfilling prophecies. They just make it that way, by going like, 'I can't sell 'em a toy, what's the point?'

DINI: "That's the thing, you know I hate being Mr. Sour Grapes here, but I'll just lay it on the line: that's the thing that got us cancelled on Tower Prep, honest-to-God was, like, 'we need boys, but we need girls right there, right one step behind the boys'—this is the network talking—'one step behind the boys, not as smart as the boys, not as interesting as the boys, but right there.' And then we began writing stories that got into the two girls' back stories, and they were really interesting. And suddenly we had families and girls watching, and girls really became a big part of our audience, in sort of like they picked up that Harry Potter type of serialized way, which is what The Batman and [indistinct]'s really gonna kill. But, the Cartoon Network was saying, 'F***, no, we want the boys' action, it's boys' action, this goofy boy humor we've gotta get that in there. And we can't—' and I'd say, but look at the numbers, we've got parents watching, with the families, and then when you break it down—'Yeah, but the—so many—we've got too many girls. We need more boys.'"

SMITH: "That's heart-breaking."

DINI: "And then that's why they cancelled us, and they put on a show called Level Up, which is, you know, goofy nerds fighting CG monsters. It's like, 'We don't want the girls because the girls won't buy toys.' We had a whole… we had a whole, a merchandise line for Tower Prep that they s***canned before it ever got off the launching pad, because it's like, 'Boys, boys, boys. Boys buy the little spinny tops, they but the action figures, girls buy princesses, we're not selling princesses.'"
The Toy Industry Association has annual sales data up on its website, although I don't see a spot where it breaks down sales data by gender. One thing that is interesting is that, in 2012, action figures and roleplaying toys accounted for $1.39B in sales, while dolls, which are typically aimed at girls, accounted for $2.69B in sales.
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And this is why we have Teen Titan Go!
 
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Cant say I blame em. Toy revenue is too much to pass up and girls dont buy it.

I dont know why that interviewer is arguing about it. The show is cancelled because the toys sat on shelves. They werent making a bunch of money from toys but cancelled the show because they want a mans money.

As for the sell em t-shirts comments, they took Gamora out of team t-shirts because, apparently, girls being on the shirt makes the shirt sell less.

To me this begs the question, why dont they make better toys. Maybe its nostalgia goggles but I felt I had better toy options than what I see in the isle today.
 
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