I can't imagine Hamm as Strange yet. He's still Don Draper to me. I aint even see that rumor anywhere but once I processed it all I could see is Dr. Strange smoking, drinking and banging various women in Greenwich village.
Originally Posted by RFX45
I still do not see a huge difference between a sci-fi over comic book film though when it comes to cliff hangers.
You gotta take everything I said as one fact. It's not just that it's sci-fi. That can't be the main difference you took from what I said. Inception is not a franchise, it will not have sequels, etc.
I will give you another example in Prometheus which ended in a bit of a cliffhanger. Hell you can even think Ender's Game ended in a cliffhanger since in both films the main character goes off in space on their own. Those cliffhangers aren't anything new though so to a translation to superhero movies if they're done that way then it's nothing worth of mention cuz we'll just know more when the sequel comes. That type of cliffhanger alone really is not enough and can only create so much buzz. Like I said the other way to go was to keep ramping up to big cliffhangers which would be more a problem to come back from if it just keeps escalating.
We really never knew that Nolans Batman film was planned for a sequel, the same for the X2 (my other example), it's still suppose to make you think of what's to come next and a sequel that comes out a few years later shouldn't affect that, no matter what type of film it is. To me at least. Another example, Catching Fire, I know there are 2 more films after it and I never read the books so I do not know what happens next but the cliff hanger doesn't affect how I viewed the film, I still enjoyed it and had me wondering what is going to happen next. Again I think we are just viewing it differently.
The X films are garbage so nobody really cares. I won't bother going in to that. So anyway, TDK was a great movie. I don't recall ppl wondering what would happen to Batman next in the sequel. Nobody was buzzing about Batman being seen as a murderer cuz of what he was forced to take the blame. They just saw that as a nice storytelling tactic with the hero we need but don't deserve line or w/e Gordon said. The TDK cliffhanger wasn't big or specifically something that was great in a way it would hook fans in to the next sequel. The movie could've ended without that and ppl would still be looking forward to the next Nolan Batman movie.
As for the status of the sequel, that was the next thing fans were worried about for a while. Yes TDKR wasn't a guarantee (not that I ever had a whole lot of doubt it'd happen even without Nolan) but once it was confirmed fans weren't then wondering about Batman's status as a murderer in Gotham, that cliffhanger wasn't being talked about. Fans were talking about who was gonna be the next villain and what would Nolan do to top TDK (which he didn't).
I mean really Marvels "teasers" are borderline cliff hangers too, they just happen to do it after the credits instead of actually being part of the film before the credits roll. Some view SHIELD recruiting Tony at the end of IM as a cliff hanger, same with Thanos smirking at the end of Avengers. I think it's in that grey area and I do not really see why DC can't do that? Their plan is to simply put it in the end and their mid-credit scene be a short film, likely as an origin to the next hero they want to introduce.
If you want to view post-credit scenes or teasers as cliffhangers fine. Then those are cliffhangers done right.
I think we'd all have to see it to judge for ourselves
I'm not saying otherwise. I'm going off what I read and from what I read it doesn't sound like a good idea.
It's a waiting game to see what they pull off but I just do not see it being too bad at all unless they really just wanted to mess up the franchise and do something stupid, which I really wouldn't put past Goyer/DC at this point.
I have no faith in Goyer or DC at this point which is why unless I hear something that sounds like it'll be good or a good idea rumored I'm not gonna react as if it has a chance to be good. DC is basically climbing out of a hole for me when it comes to shared cinematic universe superhero movies.
I wouldn't be surprised if they just decided to just do Batman and Superman movies only if some of this stuff doesn't work out and put their other properties on the CW.