And I'm not just talking about this from the movies only but the source material being the comics along with it and the lack of minority (black in this case) heroes in DC of any prominence and the studios unwillingness to make use of them by simply going along with it after failing in certain areas. I've said similar about Marvel btw.
What they're doing is obvious. Race change a villain or two, and sub out the black superheroes they do have with what they're doing with Cyborg suddenly being a JL member. They failed epically with Hal Jordan in the GL movie. Why not have Stewart AND Cyborg in the JL movie?
Is Deadshot the star of Suicide Squad or something? It's an ensemble cast of villains If anything it being a villain movie is the risk but hell it has the Joker forced in to it so I'm still not really seeing it.
But anyway, I'm not even arguing from some standpoint that DC isn't taking risks with their movies (that's really a whole other argument where you'd have to consider past **** ups). The ******* fact that a black solo superhero movie is seen as a risk in 2019 or whenever the movie is coming out is the problem. The fact that you think Deadshot being made black in the SS movie is some risk is the problem.
Hell if this was about DC and the studio taking risks we'd be talking about Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman first. We'd talk about Goyer still having a hand in these movies. We'd talk about an earlier convo about DC and their super realistic approach to all of their superhero properties and one of the owners of WB thinking that's a good thing. We'd talk about how bad MOS was. Before we even got to the sub topic of DC and their indecision to use more minority superheroes, who they choose to race bend, and casting.
Of course again we're talking about characters that had their races changed for the movies. To me while it'll get a nod in acceptance it'll still have an asterisk next to it (at least for ppl who know) that DC is slacking comics wise in that area and it's not quantity it's quality. Yeah I might belabor things by mentioning the past which DC can not change but going off some of the racist **** they've almost done and did do if I want to vent/rant on that I will. You can ignore it.
So if I'm bias for calling out bull **** like that then I'm bias.
That last post is pretty consistent with all of my other posts when it comes to this topic and I will continue the next time I feel like it or if it's brought up about another character or franchise or w/e. If you don't want to part take in that discussion that's okay but if there was any confusion before I can make it clear now this has nothing to do with hatred for DC or even my feelings that Marvel as a comic publisher and movie studio is vastly superior. I don't need to pit one against the other when I'm enjoying one a whole lot more than the other currently in those two realms. That doesn't mean DC can't do better when it comes to the topic of portraying minorities. If I just wanted to say DC sucks I wouldn't hide it behind they don't have enough minority representation therefore they suck. I'd say all of Marvel's minority characters are better than DC's therefore they suck.
I'm not saying they don't have black characters in this universe. I simply had some background to add to what you were bringing up. It's not simply oh they have Deadshot who they just made black for the movies and Cyborg is getting a solo movie before GL (no surprise given how badly they bombed the first time around). It's why the **** did they have to do that in the first place with Deadshot?
Honestly, only studio I can think of that gets a slide in this category more than others is SONY. Since they only own Spider-Man and his world. Yet I'm still all for a Miles Morales Spidey over Peter at this point. Didn't mind Foxx as Electro even though it ended up whack. Cuz there's one black (anti)hero I can think of in Spidey's world while the others are villains.
Edited by Master Zik - 3/11/15 at 12:45am