DC Studios THREAD - GunnVerse Begins - Chapter ONE: Gods & Monsters

[rfx45]

What if WW initially helps Bats? One of Supes weakness is magic and WWs sword is infused with magic so I don't know why Bats armor or the metal used can't be infused with magic either. That is if they go that route without using kryptonite.

Supes could also get weakened by a nuke like in the book, in that trailer he was seen lifting or setting down some sort of rocket, could be a nuke? What if it blew up all of a sudden or shot while he was carrying it? Then that's when Bats battles him? That explosion could also be planned by Lex to blackmail Supes.

I do think they will introduce kryptonite eventually, might not be in this film but sometime in the other films, maybe in his solo outing?

 

[evolution fight]

I don't think I've ever seen superman run he always flies towards his opponents when they're fighting as far as I can remember. looks kind of weird

 

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[6 Rings G.O.A.T.]

Son couldn't wait to fight Batman..

 

[sea manup]

batman vs superman or hulk vs hulkbuster?

dc movies are literally super dark 

 

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[Master Zik]

From a serious business take, that scene doesn't even make sense. Supes is fast enough to run around the world a few times before Bats slow *** even reaches him in that armor.

So if this was an animated film like The Dark Knight Returns, would you say otherwise? Serious question. 

I've never seen the animated film but what I know from the comic Bats was ducking and dodging Supes at every turn cuz he knew even in that armor he stood no chance. It was only after Supes took the full brunt of that nuclear blast that he was weakened enough that Bats felt confident to see him with the hands.

So yeah unless he was also weakened somehow in the animated film before they fought, ig there was a thread on it and a gif was posted I'd probably say the same thing more or less. I watched a lot if not all of Superman cartoons and JL and there's simply a lot of stuff you have to ignore to believe Supes is having trouble in a fight or even has a legit challenge.

Like it's been mentioned, if you stay true to all of Superman's powers at full power he's incredibly difficult to reasonably write for even if you take away his super intelligence.

 

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[Master Zik]

What if WW initially helps Bats? One of Supes weakness is magic and WWs sword is infused with magic so I don't know why Bats armor or the metal used can't be infused with magic either. That is if they go that route without using kryptonite.

Supes could also get weakened by a nuke like in the book, in that trailer he was seen lifting or setting down some sort of rocket, could be a nuke? What if it blew up all of a sudden or shot while he was carrying it? Then that's when Bats battles him? That explosion could also be planned by Lex to blackmail Supes.

I do think they will introduce kryptonite eventually, might not be in this film but sometime in the other films, maybe in his solo outing?

Highly doubt they go the giving Bats magic infused armor route.

A nuke going off is a strong possibility if they're repeating the level of destruction from MOS So I'm not at all saying it can't happen or that some context can't be applied to that gif/scene.

Kryptonite seems the easiest and safest route to go. I wish they had alluded to it when they opened up the Phantom zone, like just have a bunch of debris fall out of there at the end when they swallowed up Zod's ship and then show like green rocks at the bottom of the ocean or something. Right now this Superman is in that Superboy Prime territory where there isn't any kryptonite that can hurt him and only a red sun can sort of weaken him.

I've never seen the animated film but what I know from the comic Bats was ducking and dodging Supes at every turn cuz he knew even in that armor he stood no chance. It was only after Supes took the full brunt of that nuclear blast that he was weakened enough that Bats felt confident to see him with the hands.


So yeah unless he was also weakened somehow in the animated film before they fought, ig there was a thread on it and a gif was posted I'd probably say the same thing more or less. I watched a lot if not all of Superman cartoons and JL and there's simply a lot of stuff you have to ignore to believe Supes is having trouble in a fight or even has a legit challenge.


Like it's been mentioned, if you stay true to all of Superman's powers at full power he's incredibly difficult to reasonably write for even you take away his super intelligence.

Check out The Dark Knight Returns film when you get a chance.

I might. If it's just an adaption of TDKR the comic then I pretty much know what's gonna happen though unless you're hinting that there isn't a nuke scene anymore.

Outside of some context, where Supes is weakened though Batman can really fight him toe to toe unless Supes is just playing with him or this is some alt reality weaker version of Superman.

 

[rfx45]

He was weak around that terra forming machine so Bats might utilize that? Maybe that little underground bunker they are about to clash head on was altered by Bats to mimic that environment?

 

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dc movies are literally super dark  

Tim Burton's approach is what started it IMO.  

the superman battle in the town was great since it was in the middle of the day

hate when major action scenes happen at night, although snider can probably make it look amazing 

 

[Master Zik]

That can work and would fit with continuity but it is a ***** to explain. Batman reproduced the same terra forming machine the Kryptonians had to face Superman That's going straight to him being a super genius. No hesitation.

I mean after a while of absorbing yellow sun would that still work a 2nd time?

 

[KingParappa]

That can work and would fit with continuity but it is a ***** to explain. Batman reproduced the same terra forming machine the Kryptonians had to face Superman That's going straight to him being a super genius. No hesitation.

I mean after a while of absorbing yellow sun would that still work a 2nd time?

Have Lex build it cause he is that damn smart. Only thing that doesn't work is how does he sell this to Bruce? Also I hope they don't ignore that Batman is a detective. I mean if Lois Lane can figure out that he lives in Kansas with his mom, Batman should be able to as well

 

[Master Zik]

Just have Bats steal the blueprints of it and he'll build his own.

Lex would be a good way to cross that bridge. Plus weren't rumors about the story something like at first Bruce was working with Lex on the whole rebuilding thing? He's the type to somehow get his hands on that Kryptonian tech that was in the mountains and w/e else remained from the ship and that terra forming machine.

 

[sunshineblotters]

To Marvel's credit a lot of their heroes are depowered for the big screen. Movie Thor can't even fly without his armor.

Superman is probably the hardest person to write a fighting scene for..

Just way too powerful.

It'll be even worse because I think they fully intend for him to draw or lose to Bats. I just don't know how that can be without kryptonite involved.

This is why I think it would be dope for DC to have an Ultimate Universe where the characters are a lot less powerful and more morally grey.

 

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[rfx45]

That can work and would fit with continuity but it is a ***** to explain. Batman reproduced the same terra forming machine the Kryptonians had to face Superman That's going straight to him being a super genius. No hesitation.

I mean after a while of absorbing yellow sun would that still work a 2nd time?

Well he is Batman and prep time is his expertise. Should be easy enough to explain since they showed he was weak around the machine (where Bats could see) and inside the Kryptonian ship (only audience would know) so that can already imply materials in his native planet weakens him and that could be their version of kryptonite? Maybe Bats just figure he can just use those terra forming material to line a building or even use for his armor to get a bit of an advantage?

I think in the end though Supes will know Bats is simply human and just hold back. Even in TDKR he didn't really try to kill Bats, just stop him.

And yah it will still affect him even if he is exposed to the sun a long time, just like kryptonite. Supes was only really immune to kryptonite in Kingdom Come and that wasn't canon.




I know tihs won't happen in the movie, at least not to this extent but Supes have been pretty cocky at times and borderline d*ck. Along iwth holding back, he could be partially arrogant in thinking he couldn't be beaten which gives Bats a chance? Really i just wanted an excuse to post this vid because I saw it again this weekend.

 

[tay1]

I say Batman Bat-salvages something from Zods ship and all that, and uses it as a way of making his armor or as a way of beating Superman

 

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...and we're still a year away.

 

[tay1]

An entire ****** year

 

[firepower]

 
I say Batman Bat-salvages something from Zods ship and all that, and uses it as a way of making his armor or as a way of beating Superman

Pretty much my theory as well... Armour made from the ship/Kryptonian battle suit combined with Supes holding back...

Kryptonians in Snyder's universe move much faster than that against humans, so unless it's just poor continuity there has to be a reason why Clark is "jogging at a leisurely pace"

 

 

 

[rck3sactown]

Bat-salvage 

I like it 

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Sheesh, that leaked quick. A part of me wishes everything didn't leak these days.

 

[Bend_The_Knee]

I say Batman Bat-salvages something from Zods ship and all that, and uses it as a way of making his armor or as a way of beating Superman

Good point. You could be right.

 

[law3001]

Jeremy Irons as Alfred is lowkey one of the things Im excited about in the film