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I guess this is the official, or pre-official, Batman x Superman movie thread, so I'll just repost what I shared earlier in the MoS thread concerning the Bats appearance in the MoS sequel:

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I think folks should refrain from getting their hopes up about this Superman x Batman union in the MoS sequel. It'll likely just amount to an extended cameo by Bruce Wayne.

This is how I imagine it will play out:

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In the aftermath of Metropolis' destruction, we are witness to a city attempting to repair itself. Taking part in the rebuilding effort are several prominent citizens and home-grown companies, of which Lex Luthor and his Luther Corp. are a part of. Also in the mix is Wayne Enterprises, from neighboring Gotham City, whose billionaire CEO has pledged some undisclosed amount (speculated in the millions) to the "affected citizens" fund.

In proper fashion, a huge and ritzy gala is thrown in recognition of those people who've done the most for Metropolis during these trying times; and of course, as is always the case with such events, many of the attendees are shown to hail from the upper echelons of the social order, with nary a consideration/invite for the men and women actually involved in the rebuilding effort (see construction workers, reg. on duty cop, firefighters, nurses, etc). Simply stated, the gala is an ensemble of the rich, for the rich, to speculate and amuse themselves (who lost the most property, whose insurance policy paid out the most, etc).

Anyway, as it is customary to document these events for the hoi polloi, certain privileged members of the press are given access, and as we scan the room we stumble across Perry White and Lois Lane from the Daily Planet, naturally, and Clark Kent, quite unnaturally. Clark has been dragged there in lieu of a more seasoned journalist because Lois believes the event will hone his journalistic skills (throw him to the sharks and he'll have no choice but to learn how to swim). Also, having Clark there frees her from her journalistic obligations and allows her to cavort with the rich.

After a few overwhelming profiles, Clark retreats to the food spread at the back of the room to take a breather. There, he surveys the room full of people with pretentions unlike anything he has ever known. For a guy whose sensibilities were molded on a farm in smallville USA, the present milieu stands in stark contrast to everything he has known . He reflects on his once simple life; of humble and sincere folk; of close knit farm communities buoyed by generosity and selflessness. These bonds, he imagines to himself, are what life must be about. Not this (surveying the room yet again): superficial and self serving relationships held together only by money, power, and exploitation. A sad cold bunch, he considers to himself. His longing for home and reflections on the present are soon interrupted, however, by a sudden voice next to him. A voice that seemingly crept out the darkness like a phantom. Next to him stands a sharply dressed man, with a drink in one hand, and with the other hand tucked in his trouser pocket. Clark wonders to himself, "when and where did he come from"?

A man whose presence escapes detection by even the Man of Steel, remarkable, wouldn't you say?

The two begin to chatter. It's obvious to Clark that the fellow is cut from the same social cloth as many in the room. However, beneath the superficiality of wealth, there appears to be more to the fellow. A great deal more. Clark is mystified.

Their conversation is soon interrupted by the shriek of a microphone on the other side of the room. The room goes quite as all attention is directed towards the man holding the mic.

A man who was earlier introduced to Clark by Lois as Lex Luthor, "one of Metropolis' shining stars", is holding the mic. He makes a few opening remark, comments, jokes; the crowd laughs pleasantly. He then acknowledges some of the various esteemed invitees in attendance--there is applause. After the applause dies down, he starts addressing why they are all there. He talks about taking a stand, a need for action and a call to action to protect the world from a new kind of threat. He talks about the rampancy of chaos in the world; of mad terrorists hell bent on destroying cities, of aliens hell bent on destroying earth, etc. He talks about brave men and women standing for something; of heroes arising from the ranks of the ordinary to stand up for justice. He touches on the vigilante known as the Batman in Metropolis' sister city, Gotham. There is faint but recognizably haughty murmur in the room. He talks about the "good alien" who protected Metropolis when the "bad aliens" attacked. There is an ambivalent murmur in the room. Still, he continues: "these 'heroes' are outliers that cannot be counted on or be trusted when we most need them." He talks about taking matters into their own hands--there is approval in the audience. The need to take matters into their own hands, in conjunction with their visible defenselessness in the face of considerable threats, he explains, is the impetus behind his forthcoming revelation--a R&D partnership between his company, Luthor Corp. and Wayne Enterprises, with backing from the U.S military, aimed at shoring up Earth's defenses--on the micro and macro level--in the face of increasingly hostile forces. There is great approval in the room, then clapping.

Lex, looking satisfied, reveals that there is more to be said about the matter, and invites a special guest to join him: "Bruce Wayne, get out over here...."

There is restlessness in the gathering as everyone looks about them. From various pockets, the curiosity is audible: "Bruce Wayne, here...well isn't that something..."; "I heard he lost his fortune in some scandal involving the futures markets..."; "He never called me back after that night, I thought we really had something special...." The anxiety in the room is palpable. Even Clark, at this point, is wondering who this Bruce Wayne fellow is.

Lex scans the ball room, soon stopping and fixing his gaze at the back, to where Clark is standing: "ahh, there he is; Bruce Wayne you rascal, come on up here."

Everyone in the room follows Lex's gaze towards Clark. Clark looks back, like a deer in headlights, at all eyes seemingly peering at him.

The guy standing next to him, who he was briefly chatting up right before Lex's interruption, has set his drink down. The fellow looks at Clark with a mischievous smile about him, and states just how much he hates these things--pointing to Lex holding the mic. "Well, guess being the CEO can't be fun and games. Occasionally you have to do stuff like this; how's my tie by the way"? His tie is set and held sharply in place. Clark echoes, "looks great," still faintly perplexed but now approaching the shores of realization as to who this fellow is.

He thanks Clark and pats him on the shoulder, telling him that he is a decent fellow and that he has enjoyed talking to him. He begins walking toward Lex on the other side of the room. He walks calmly and confidently like a man who has rehearsed this many times before. Like he were an actor and this was all an act to him. "Bruce Wayne everyone...," Lex announces once more into the mic, with applause all around.

Clark looks at the frame of the man walking to the front, musing to himself, "Bruce Wayne..."


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So yeah, that's my lil imaginative take on it.

Y'all gotta remember that these studios are trying to bank as much money from these movies as they can. WB & DC gain absolutely nothing by rushing these projects. Why would they give us the Batman x Superman movie we all want (WF or prequel to JL) so soon when they can build the hype exactly as they did at Comic Con and by alluding to it via other projects? Will we see it eventually, sure. But now, best believe they're just gonna try and eat good off the MoS franchise, the Batman franchise, Flash, etc.

They'll eventually, obviously, get to the legitimate JL movie, but not now or anytime soon. So as far as this Batman cameo in the MoS sequel, I think it'll more than likely be a Bruce Wayne extended cameo. I just don't see a suited up Bats teaming up and fighting side by side with Supes like what was implied.





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Mark my words, it isn't going to be just a little cameo by Batman. Is it going to be a Superman film with Batman in it? Likely. Will Batman play a big role? Almost guaranteed. This isn't a TV show where a small cameo to tease Bruce Wayne will suffice. They are considering naming it Superman vs. Batman, no way they would put his name in there just to say Bruce called Clark Kent from Gotham. laugh.gif
post #152 of 23451
I was wondering what people meant when they said Pam. Flew right over my head.
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Seriously why did they cast a 39 year old red head Pam look alike average housewife as Louis Lane?
She must have a really persuasive agent or no big name actress wanted to touch that role. Or she did it for free or very little money.

After watching the movie I didnt have a problem with her in the movie but reading yall posts made me think.

Amy Adams is a pretty big name actress... multiple Oscar nominations, well-respected, etc.. Whether or not she was a good Lois is another story (with most siding against her portrayal), but it's not like she's some nobody off the street.


I really do not get a Amy Adam looks like/they should have just cast Pam from the Office when Amy Adams is way, way more famous and popular and has been in the industry far longer than Jenna Fisher. If anything, Jenna Fisher is the one who is a bootleg version of Amy Adams. laugh.gif
You would think that but being the same character for almost 10 years makes you more well known in a lot of homes than an actor/actress in the game for years. Notice they're calling her Pam and not Fischer laugh.gif

When you add in Adams unremarkable performance you'll get comments like that.
post #154 of 23451
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I get that but I just find it funny that the person with more acclaim gets dissed like she's the rip off version. laugh.gif I mean Adams isn't even unknown, she's been nominated for countless awards.
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Superman films suck for the most part anyway 

this. there were some tear jerking moments but as far as action goes it looked corny. batman movies > superman

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Cavill, Adams, Lane and Fishburne are confirmed to reprise their roles, while a new actor will be chosen to play Batman. According to Snyder, the film will take inspiration from the comic The Dark Knight Returns.

Superman/Batman: World's Finest
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WB's problem is that they focus too much/only on Batman and Superman . . . we should have gotten a Flash movie by now
Marvel is winning right now because every character has or is getting a movie . . . Aside from GL, DC has focused on two franchises the last 20 years

Green Lantern
Cat woman
Watchmen
Jonah Hex
Steel


I mentioned GL

 

Catwoman and Steel laugh.gif. If anything these were boneheaded decisions . . . Catwoman's budget could have easily been used for a Flash film . . . Even still those are both technically products of Batman and Superman . . . I caught Catwoman flipping thru channels the other night . . . cringe worthy bruh lol

 

Watchmen and Jonah Hex I'll give to you

 

But the point I was making was that they were making no efforts to build to a larger continuity.

 

Even still, Marvel has Spider Man, X Men, Daredevil (should have got a sequel mean.gif or at least they should have done that reboot from that sizzle reel floating around a year or two ago), F4, Hulk, Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, The Avengers . . . I'm sure I'm missing some too

 

Marvel is just better at getting their franchises out . . . then again Im sure part of that has to do with Marvel being able to rent out their franchises to different studios and DC movies having to be done by WB

post #157 of 23451
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I mentioned GL
Catwoman and Steel laugh.gif . If anything these were boneheaded decisions . . . Catwoman's budget could have easily been used for a Flash film . . . Even still those are both technically products of Batman and Superman . . . I caught Catwoman flipping thru channels the other night . . . cringe worthy bruh lol
Watchmen and Jonah Hex I'll give to you
But the point I was making was that they were making no efforts to build to a larger continuity.
Even still, Marvel has Spider Man, X Men, Daredevil (should have got a sequel mean.gif or at least they should have done that reboot from that sizzle reel floating around a year or two ago), F4, Hulk, Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, The Avengers . . . I'm sure I'm missing some too
Marvel is just better at getting their franchises out . . . then again Im sure part of that has to do with Marvel being able to rent out their franchises to different studios and DC movies having to be done by WB
Marvel has absolutely 0 rights to Spiderman and X-Men, though. That's why they couldn't get Norman Osbourne as Iron Patriot in Iron Man 3 and had to make some ******** up with Rhodie being Iron Patriot.
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post #158 of 23451
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Cavill, Adams, Lane and Fishburne are confirmed to reprise their roles, while a new actor will be chosen to play Batman. According to Snyder, the film will take inspiration from the comic The Dark Knight Returns.

Superman/Batman: World's Finest
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WB's problem is that they focus too much/only on Batman and Superman . . . we should have gotten a Flash movie by now
Marvel is winning right now because every character has or is getting a movie . . . Aside from GL, DC has focused on two franchises the last 20 years


Green Lantern

Cat woman

Watchmen

Jonah Hex

Steel

I mentioned GL
Catwoman and Steel laugh.gif . If anything these were boneheaded decisions . . . Catwoman's budget could have easily been used for a Flash film . . . Even still those are both technically products of Batman and Superman . . . I caught Catwoman flipping thru channels the other night . . . cringe worthy bruh lol
Watchmen and Jonah Hex I'll give to you
But the point I was making was that they were making no efforts to build to a larger continuity.
Even still, Marvel has Spider Man, X Men, Daredevil (should have got a sequel mean.gif or at least they should have done that reboot from that sizzle reel floating around a year or two ago), F4, Hulk, Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, The Avengers . . . I'm sure I'm missing some too
Marvel is just better at getting their franchises out . . . then again Im sure part of that has to do with Marvel being able to rent out their franchises to different studios and DC movies having to be done by WB

Either way, it appears DC is getting on their throne this time around. With The Flash, Batman/Superman: World's Finest, and The Justice League coming out it opens a lot of new opportunities. Such as a Wonder Woman, Cyborg/Teen Titans, Aqua Man, and Martian Manhunter movies. Think of DC as a late bloomer.
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DC has been holding it down with their animated movies. It's ok pimp.gif
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DC has been holding it down with their animated movies. It's ok pimp.gif
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I mentioned GL
Catwoman and Steel laugh.gif . If anything these were boneheaded decisions . . . Catwoman's budget could have easily been used for a Flash film . . . Even still those are both technically products of Batman and Superman . . . I caught Catwoman flipping thru channels the other night . . . cringe worthy bruh lol
Watchmen and Jonah Hex I'll give to you
But the point I was making was that they were making no efforts to build to a larger continuity.
Even still, Marvel has Spider Man, X Men, Daredevil (should have got a sequel mean.gif or at least they should have done that reboot from that sizzle reel floating around a year or two ago), F4, Hulk, Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, The Avengers . . . I'm sure I'm missing some too
Marvel is just better at getting their franchises out . . . then again Im sure part of that has to do with Marvel being able to rent out their franchises to different studios and DC movies having to be done by WB
Marvel has absolutely 0 rights to Spiderman and X-Men, though. That's why they couldn't get Norman Osbourne as Iron Patriot in Iron Man 3 and had to make some ******** up with Rhodie being Iron Patriot.
I'm pretty sure dude knows that since he basically said that at the end of his post.

I don't know why you think Marvel wanted Norman Osborn as the Iron Patriot in IM3. They just wanted to use the Iron Patriot armor (which Rhodey commands an army of in the comics). It'd make no sense from a story standpoint to bring in Norman in IM3 as a villain since he really isn't his enemy. All that ties in to Thunderbolts, Civil War, Secret Invasion, and Dark Reign which neither studio could do.
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Hollywood has no problem recasting other ethnic characters as white characters... I don't see what's the harm in casting the first black Batman would be...


It would be really cool, and refreshing IMO...


Obviously I was kidding about Nick Cannon... In case sarcasm detectors are malfunctioning.

I'm all for switching races if it makes sense but honestly, it goes against Batmans whole character. He was the son of the multi billionaires who were killed and that's how he can afford to buy all the equipment plus take all that time off to train and study. In America, that's just not happening to a black or Hispanic person. Period. You'd have to change that whole part of the story which is a HUGE part of Batmans story.

Spider-Man on the other hand is completely different
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Hollywood has no problem recasting other ethnic characters as white characters... I don't see what's the harm in casting the first black Batman would be...


It would be really cool, and refreshing IMO...


Obviously I was kidding about Nick Cannon... In case sarcasm detectors are malfunctioning.


I'm all for switching races if it makes sense but honestly, it goes against Batmans whole character. He was the son of the multi billionaires who were killed and that's how he can afford to buy all the equipment plus take all that time off to train and study. In America, that's just not happening to a black or Hispanic person. Period. You'd have to change that whole part of the story which is a HUGE part of Batmans story.

Spider-Man on the other hand is completely different

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Marvel > DC

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Hollywood has no problem recasting other ethnic characters as white characters... I don't see what's the harm in casting the first black Batman would be...



It would be really cool, and refreshing IMO...



Obviously I was kidding about Nick Cannon... In case sarcasm detectors are malfunctioning.


I'm all for switching races if it makes sense but honestly, it goes against Batmans whole character. He was the son of the multi billionaires who were killedand that's how he can afford to buy all the equipment plus take all that time off to train and study. In America, that's just not happening to a black or Hispanic person. Period. You'd have to change that whole part of the story which is a HUGE part of Batmans story.


Spider-Man on the other hand is completely different
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It's mad racist given we're talking about a fictional character. Apparently even for fictional characters, in America there can't be wealthy black or Hispanic families where after a tragedy the heir becomes dedicated to a cause and goes around the world to train and study then uses all that money to buy equipment and make gadgets. Guess it just doesn't make sense.
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That racist up there shoulda just said, Black and Hispanics aren't smart enough to be batman, and wouldn't have the same moral codes as a THEE white batman.  Not to mention they wouldn't be rich enough, or anywhere near as good looking

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I'm all for switching races if it makes sense but honestly, it goes against Batmans whole character. He was the son of the multi billionaires who were killed and that's how he can afford to buy all the equipment plus take all that time off to train and study. In America, that's just not happening to a black or Hispanic person. Period. You'd have to change that whole part of the story which is a HUGE part of Batmans story.

Spider-Man on the other hand is completely different


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That racist up there shoulda just said, Black and Hispanics aren't smart enough to be batman, and wouldn't have the same moral codes as a THEE white batman.  Not to mention they wouldn't be rich enough, or anywhere near as good looking

You guys are so dumb. Why don't you argue against what I said versus adding in a bunch of BS that I didn't say. Handsome or moral code? Or smart enough? Where did I say that? I'm Dominican and the facts are - in AMERICA in this day and age in the overwhelming majority, the Batman story is of a white person. Realistically, it's just how America is. Race isn't just a color in America. If you make the story realistic, it'll changes a large dynamic of this character. This is my opinion, don't twist me for being this racist when I said nothing like that.
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That racist up there shoulda just said, Black and Hispanics aren't smart enough to be batman, and wouldn't have the same moral codes as a THEE white batman.  Not to mention they wouldn't be rich enough, or anywhere near as good looking

You guys are so dumb. Why don't you argue against what I said versus adding in a bunch of BS that I didn't say. Handsome or moral code? Or smart enough? Where did I say that? I'm Dominican and the facts are - in AMERICA in this day and age in the overwhelming majority, the Batman story is of a white person. Realistically, it's just how America is. Race isn't just a color in America. If you make the story realistic, it'll changes a large dynamic of this character. This is my opinion, don't twist me for being this racist when I said nothing like that.

I agree its like having a black president.
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You guys are so dumb. Why don't you argue against what I said versus adding in a bunch of BS that I didn't say. Handsome or moral code? Or smart enough? Where did I say that? I'm Dominican and the facts are - in AMERICA in this day and age in the overwhelming majority, the Batman story is of a white person. Realistically, it's just how America is. Race isn't just a color in America. If you make the story realistic, it'll changes a large dynamic of this character. This is my opinion, don't twist me for being this racist when I said nothing like that.

Yes because in a FICTION story it would be unrealistic if a minority was batman. Name one billionaire who is white and actively fights crime.
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Cavill himself even said a justice league movie would be too difficult to make seeing that the characters were to god like he said.  Superman is just too damn powerful to make a movie like that work.  TDK was a much better series cuz batman was continuously challenged and even though you knew he would prevail you had some doubts especially in the third movie.  MOS you knew just sitting through it he would overcome anything that came at him. 

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That racist up there shoulda just said, Black and Hispanics aren't smart enough to be batman, and wouldn't have the same moral codes as a THEE white batman.  Not to mention they wouldn't be rich enough, or anywhere near as good looking

You guys are so dumb. Why don't you argue against what I said versus adding in a bunch of BS that I didn't say. Handsome or moral code? Or smart enough? Where did I say that? I'm Dominican and the facts are - in AMERICA in this day and age in the overwhelming majority, the Batman story is of a white person. Realistically, it's just how America is. Race isn't just a color in America. If you make the story realistic, it'll changes a large dynamic of this character. This is my opinion, don't twist me for being this racist when I said nothing like that.

I agree its like having a black president.
I know right, that's insanely unrealistic.

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Dude is just basically saying the idea that there would be a wealthy family that happens to be minorities isn't realistic and of course he doesn't see the racism in that, especially in this day and age. **** is sad. We talking about fiction and his argument for for no minority being Batman is he wants it to be more realistic so only a white guy can be him. That also brings up the fact that you don't get Batman
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I guess this is the official, or pre-official, Batman x Superman movie thread, so I'll just repost what I shared earlier in the MoS thread concerning the Bats appearance in the MoS sequel:

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I think folks should refrain from getting their hopes up about this Superman x Batman union in the MoS sequel. It'll likely just amount to an extended cameo by Bruce Wayne.

This is how I imagine it will play out:

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In the aftermath of Metropolis' destruction, we are witness to a city attempting to repair itself. Taking part in the rebuilding effort are several prominent citizens and home-grown companies, of which Lex Luthor and his Luther Corp. are a part of. Also in the mix is Wayne Enterprises, from neighboring Gotham City, whose billionaire CEO has pledged some undisclosed amount (speculated in the millions) to the "affected citizens" fund.

In proper fashion, a huge and ritzy gala is thrown in recognition of those people who've done the most for Metropolis during these trying times; and of course, as is always the case with such events, many of the attendees are shown to hail from the upper echelons of the social order, with nary a consideration/invite for the men and women actually involved in the rebuilding effort (see construction workers, reg. on duty cop, firefighters, nurses, etc). Simply stated, the gala is an ensemble of the rich, for the rich, to speculate and amuse themselves (who lost the most property, whose insurance policy paid out the most, etc).

Anyway, as it is customary to document these events for the hoi polloi, certain privileged members of the press are given access, and as we scan the room we stumble across Perry White and Lois Lane from the Daily Planet, naturally, and Clark Kent, quite unnaturally. Clark has been dragged there in lieu of a more seasoned journalist because Lois believes the event will hone his journalistic skills (throw him to the sharks and he'll have no choice but to learn how to swim). Also, having Clark there frees her from her journalistic obligations and allows her to cavort with the rich.

After a few overwhelming profiles, Clark retreats to the food spread at the back of the room to take a breather. There, he surveys the room full of people with pretentions unlike anything he has ever known. For a guy whose sensibilities were molded on a farm in smallville USA, the present milieu stands in stark contrast to everything he has known . He reflects on his once simple life; of humble and sincere folk; of close knit farm communities buoyed by generosity and selflessness. These bonds, he imagines to himself, are what life must be about. Not this (surveying the room yet again): superficial and self serving relationships held together only by money, power, and exploitation. A sad cold bunch, he considers to himself. His longing for home and reflections on the present are soon interrupted, however, by a sudden voice next to him. A voice that seemingly crept out the darkness like a phantom. Next to him stands a sharply dressed man, with a drink in one hand, and with the other hand tucked in his trouser pocket. Clark wonders to himself, "when and where did he come from"?

A man whose presence escapes detection by even the Man of Steel, remarkable, wouldn't you say?

The two begin to chatter. It's obvious to Clark that the fellow is cut from the same social cloth as many in the room. However, beneath the superficiality of wealth, there appears to be more to the fellow. A great deal more. Clark is mystified.

Their conversation is soon interrupted by the shriek of a microphone on the other side of the room. The room goes quite as all attention is directed towards the man holding the mic.

A man who was earlier introduced to Clark by Lois as Lex Luthor, "one of Metropolis' shining stars", is holding the mic. He makes a few opening remark, comments, jokes; the crowd laughs pleasantly. He then acknowledges some of the various esteemed invitees in attendance--there is applause. After the applause dies down, he starts addressing why they are all there. He talks about taking a stand, a need for action and a call to action to protect the world from a new kind of threat. He talks about the rampancy of chaos in the world; of mad terrorists hell bent on destroying cities, of aliens hell bent on destroying earth, etc. He talks about brave men and women standing for something; of heroes arising from the ranks of the ordinary to stand up for justice. He touches on the vigilante known as the Batman in Metropolis' sister city, Gotham. There is faint but recognizably haughty murmur in the room. He talks about the "good alien" who protected Metropolis when the "bad aliens" attacked. There is an ambivalent murmur in the room. Still, he continues: "these 'heroes' are outliers that cannot be counted on or be trusted when we most need them." He talks about taking matters into their own hands--there is approval in the audience. The need to take matters into their own hands, in conjunction with their visible defenselessness in the face of considerable threats, he explains, is the impetus behind his forthcoming revelation--a R&D partnership between his company, Luthor Corp. and Wayne Enterprises, with backing from the U.S military, aimed at shoring up Earth's defenses--on the micro and macro level--in the face of increasingly hostile forces. There is great approval in the room, then clapping.

Lex, looking satisfied, reveals that there is more to be said about the matter, and invites a special guest to join him: "Bruce Wayne, get out over here...."

There is restlessness in the gathering as everyone looks about them. From various pockets, the curiosity is audible: "Bruce Wayne, here...well isn't that something..."; "I heard he lost his fortune in some scandal involving the futures markets..."; "He never called me back after that night, I thought we really had something special...." The anxiety in the room is palpable. Even Clark, at this point, is wondering who this Bruce Wayne fellow is.

Lex scans the ball room, soon stopping and fixing his gaze at the back, to where Clark is standing: "ahh, there he is; Bruce Wayne you rascal, come on up here."

Everyone in the room follows Lex's gaze towards Clark. Clark looks back, like a deer in headlights, at all eyes seemingly peering at him.

The guy standing next to him, who he was briefly chatting up right before Lex's interruption, has set his drink down. The fellow looks at Clark with a mischievous smile about him, and states just how much he hates these things--pointing to Lex holding the mic. "Well, guess being the CEO can't be fun and games. Occasionally you have to do stuff like this; how's my tie by the way"? His tie is set and held sharply in place. Clark echoes, "looks great," still faintly perplexed but now approaching the shores of realization as to who this fellow is.

He thanks Clark and pats him on the shoulder, telling him that he is a decent fellow and that he has enjoyed talking to him. He begins walking toward Lex on the other side of the room. He walks calmly and confidently like a man who has rehearsed this many times before. Like he were an actor and this was all an act to him. "Bruce Wayne everyone...," Lex announces once more into the mic, with applause all around.

Clark looks at the frame of the man walking to the front, musing to himself, "Bruce Wayne..."


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So yeah, that's my lil imaginative take on it.

Y'all gotta remember that these studios are trying to bank as much money from these movies as they can. WB & DC gain absolutely nothing by rushing these projects. Why would they give us the Batman x Superman movie we all want (WF or prequel to JL) so soon when they can build the hype exactly as they did at Comic Con and by alluding to it via other projects? Will we see it eventually, sure. But now, best believe they're just gonna try and eat good off the MoS franchise, the Batman franchise, Flash, etc.

They'll eventually, obviously, get to the legitimate JL movie, but not now or anytime soon. So as far as this Batman cameo in the MoS sequel, I think it'll more than likely be a Bruce Wayne extended cameo. I just don't see a suited up Bats teaming up and fighting side by side with Supes like what was implied.





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Nice. You got some talent, bro.

I'm hoping you're right about a quick cameo though. I really want this Superman series to get its fair shake before bringing another beloved hero into his own series.
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I know right, that's insanely unrealistic.

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Dude is just basically saying the idea that there would be a wealthy family that happens to be minorities isn't realistic and of course he doesn't see the racism in that, especially in this day and age. **** is sad. We talking about fiction and his argument for for no minority being Batman is he wants it to be more realistic so only a white guy can be him. That also brings up the fact that you don't get Batman

Look.

If there was a black president in the 1950s in America, even in a fiction, that would make you question a lot. Would it not?

Even if it's FICTION, it should have some reflection on humanity and the society it's based off of. IMO, having Bruce Wayne be the son of two black or hispanic billionaires really downplays A LOT of the racial issues in America. Brushes them off like OH anyone could be rich in America. I personally don't think its all that swell here. But you guys think racism is over so I'm way out of line here eyes.gif
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Look.

If there was a black president in the 1950s in America, even in a fiction, that would make you question a lot. Would it not?


that would be an awesome book and i would read that.
post #177 of 23451
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Originally Posted by Master Zik View Post

I know right, that's insanely unrealistic.

mean.gif

Dude is just basically saying the idea that there would be a wealthy family that happens to be minorities isn't realistic and of course he doesn't see the racism in that, especially in this day and age. **** is sad. We talking about fiction and his argument for for no minority being Batman is he wants it to be more realistic so only a white guy can be him. That also brings up the fact that you don't get Batman

Look.

If there was a black president in the 1950s in America, even in a fiction, that would make you question a lot. Would it not?

Even if it's FICTION, it should have some reflection on humanity and the society it's based off of. IMO, having Bruce Wayne be the son of two black or hispanic billionaires really downplays A LOT of the racial issues in America. Brushes them off like OH anyone could be rich in America. I personally don't think its all that swell here. But you guys think racism is over so I'm way out of line here eyes.gif

Just give up kid.
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Just give up kid.

How am I wrong son? I'm the only one that backed up my points. All you guys have done is put words in my mouth and go crazy because I brought up race in a realistic way.

Whatever.

I've never seen any of the Batman vs. Superman stuff. Is there any one that would work in this type of world? Cartoon or comic? The only one I've seen that was actually REALLY well done was TDKReturns and there's no way that could take place this early. Superman took it 'easy' on Batman and Batman knew everything about Superman + there was a loaded backstory that explained why they were fighting.
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How am I wrong son? I'm the only one that backed up my points. All you guys have done is put words in my mouth and go crazy because I brought up race in a realistic way.

Whatever.

I've never seen any of the Batman vs. Superman stuff. Is there any one that would work in this type of world? Cartoon or comic? The only one I've seen that was actually REALLY well done was TDKReturns and there's no way that could take place this early. Superman took it 'easy' on Batman and Batman knew everything about Superman + there was a loaded backstory that explained why they were fighting.

Definition of FICTION

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a : something invented by the imagination or feigned; specifically : an invented story


you didn't back up anything with any valid points. all you've said is that there is no possible way there could be a rich black man in the 50's because its unrealistic but we're talking about a man who dresses up as a BAT FIGHTING CRIME


Here i'll make up a story for you

a urban black family is walking down in gotham and is gunned down by the klan. the only survivor is the kid and in anguish he trains his entire life and dawns a bat helmet and vows to fight crime. there i made a black batman more realistic for you
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