DC Studios THREAD - GunnVerse Begins - Chapter ONE: Gods & Monsters

[rfx45]

I read the same thing over the weekend but it is mostly just a guess on that guys part, he has no sources at all, so I didn't bother posting it because people will simply go nuts and take them as facts already.

 

[donmega]

that's true. Just made me wonder if DC/WB would really alienate some of WW's fans and go that route though.

 

[rfx45]

I don't think they would but I won't be surprised and I'd be pretty mad if they go that route.

Just stick to the New 52 and coincide it with the current comics and make it easier for themselves, no need to keep creating different version and different worlds for these characters.

Like the other rumor where JL is international, Supes representing the world as an alien, Bats the US, WW the Middle East, GL being Hispanic, Flash being Europena, etc...

The more simple they make these characters, the better especially since they'll be bringing them all up w/o their origins story. Let their history speak for themselves so that those who don't know can simply pick up the old books and learn something about the character.

 

[donmega]

Haven't read that rumor before, the international one that is. That's gonna be pretty weird and crazy.

I do agree that they should just stick with the New 52. WW's origin in the current timeline is pretty good.

 

[Master Zik]

Wow, I really didn't ever come across those Shazam rumors. Seems shelved now though.

:x @ the Amazons possibly being descendants of ancient kryptonians. If they go that route they're clearly bankrupt of any creativity. Might as well just stick to the comics. Why do all of those things have to be connected? Why can't GODs just exist? Are Martians gonna be a secret failed experiment to improve reproduction of kryptonians by ancient kryptonians? Green Lantern rings are actually kryptonite? The speed force just some invention by Kal's dad?

C'mon son.

Remember that fan made Luke Cage poster though? Marvel should have taken him when they had the chance.

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The Rock I think posted this pick and tweeted he was interested.

I think it's clear he's in to comics and really wants to be apart of a superhero franchise. Marvel just didn't call him up and/or weren't ready to fit him in to anything. Like I'm fine with that cuz I wouldn't want them to just grab him to grab him and have him end up playing Black Panther or Goliath just cuz.

 

[nydunkhead]

I am probably one of the few people i've seen on NT that enjoyed MOS and the different approach it took to Supes origin (did not like Lois knowing his identity and Jimmy being a girl tho) But if they make WW a decent of Kyrpton....

 

[rfx45]

Eh it's all rumors but come to think of it, they did have that pre-MoS comic where Kara arrived on Earth a long time before Kal did and the ship he found was hers. Maybe that's where teh guy got the idea that WW will be a Kryptonian descendant from Karas bloodline?


Rock has commented on wanting to be Luke Cage but that was pretty much it. I think Marvels plan was a TV show from the get go and Marvel/Disney probably felt the Rock is too expensive for a Netflix TV deal.

 

[Master Zik]

Eh it's all rumors but come to think of it, they did have that pre-MoS comic where Kara arrived on Earth a long time before Kal did and the ship he found was hers. Maybe that's where teh guy got the idea that WW will be a Kryptonian descendant from Karas bloodline?

So this means Supes can't bang WW cuz they're like 422nd cousins

Rock has commented on wanting to be Luke Cage but that was pretty much it. I think Marvels plan was a TV show from the get go and Marvel/Disney probably felt the Rock is too expensive for a Netflix TV deal.

Probably. Guess it's Terry Crews for Power Man.

 

[CP1708]

I am probably one of the few people i've seen on NT that enjoyed MOS and the different approach it took to Supes origin (did not like Lois knowing his identity and Jimmy being a girl tho) But if they make WW a decent of Kyrpton....

I loved MOS, I still don't understand the lames that miss the 1978 version of Superman, yet then turn around and complain about Clark merely donning a pair of glasses as his "disguise".

People were just going to complain no matter what. Regardless of the fact that everything in this movie was upgraded over any Superman movie, ever.

 

[donmega]

So this means Supes can't bang WW cuz they're like 422nd cousins

I loved MOS, I still don't understand the lames that miss the 1978 version of Superman, yet then turn around and complain about Clark merely donning a pair of glasses as his "disguise".

People were just going to complain no matter what. Regardless of the fact that everything in this movie was upgraded over any Superman movie, ever.

I guess it just boils down to people romanticizing the 19878 version. Both has it's merits, but I do agree that MoS was a definite upgrade.

 

[CP1708]

Exactly. For 1978 the film was great. For 2013, that movie sucks horribly.

For the love of God, the city of Metropolis was sitting there at the edge of the building, WHILE A HELICOPTER WAS FALLING TOWARDS THEIR FACES!!!!!!!!!!!!

No man in spandex would have equaled many stupid idiots dying.


Superman saves a cat from a tree. :x

And stops some dork from stealing necklaces.

Yes, it depicts that he has values, but you can't tell me one damn thing in there is better than the flashbacks of Kevin Costner trying to explain to him why he should, or shouldn't save a bus full of kids. Or letting himself be taken by a Tornado over having Clark rescue him. Saving the oil drillers, etc.

That stuff BY FAR, eclipses 78 or 81 and it's really not even close. I loved the 81 Zod story, absolutely, but this, this movie upgraded that story by a billion. I'm sorry, but 3 Aliens coming to earth to fight Supes aren't going to just politely go up in the air and zoom around. They comin down to cause problems for real, and that's exactly what Snyder had them do, and it cost Supes making the ultimate choice in how to stop Zod.

That >>>>>>anything we've seen on screen before.

 

[Master Zik]

I am probably one of the few people i've seen on NT that enjoyed MOS and the different approach it took to Supes origin (did not like Lois knowing his identity and Jimmy being a girl tho) But if they make WW a decent of Kyrpton....

I loved MOS, I still don't understand the lames that miss the 1978 version of Superman, yet then turn around and complain about Clark merely donning a pair of glasses as his "disguise".

People were just going to complain no matter what. Regardless of the fact that everything in this movie was upgraded over any Superman movie, ever.

Nah ppl like Reeves Superman for what it was. If you're gonna say MOS is vastly superior you can't have something as lame and unconvincing as a pair of glasses being his disguise especially in the manner they introduced it and tried to slip it in like yeah that's normal. It completely breaks the suspension of disbelief. Like why is that a disguise yet Lois is somehow able to discern the two are one in the same? Does all it take is to know Clark is Superman so that the glasses disguise doesn't work? :x

Besides I don't see anybody claiming MOS isn't an upgrade. They're talking about the quality of the overall movie. I think you're too hung up on comparing the two. Superman Returns is an upgrade over the '78 version.

But hey there's other reasons to not like this movie anyway which have nothing to do with previous Superman movies.

 

[CP1708]

Aliens in our backyard battling it out doesn't suspend your disbelief enough from the word go?

But using something from the 75 year lore of Superman (glasses disguise) turns off your suspension of disbelief?

 

[rfx45]

I still think many people were looking for a Reeves like Superman.

Seinfeld, which is a big Superman fanboy had this to say about MoS recently.

"I was so happy that they made another Superman movie! I'm really reluctant to be critical of it in any way. But I thought the glossing over of the figuring out a secret identity and why he felt he needed one was a huge missed opportunity for that character, and one of the most interesting things about Superman is the whole secret identity. So to me it was too much action / violence and not enough character study."

I thought it was pretty clear that the secret identity wasn't the main focus as in the end he was barely putting on the glasses and being the Clark Kent we all knew from the 70's. I believe they will explore that further in the sequel but we shall see.I agree that the character could have been developed and presented well but for an origins film, it was pretty good especially if you do not come expecting to see Reeves or a bumbling Clark Kent that is already working in the Daily Planet.

 

[CP1708]

Good lord, after all the character study they featured with him being guided by the Kent's, they want MORE character study of him?

I thought every scene where they showed the young Clark and Costner was absolute GOLD. Wanting to fight back against the bully, but not. Saving the Bus. Yelling at Kent "you're not even my dad" When he learned his senses and hid in the closet and his mom had to come get him out, that stuff was excellent. No other Superman movie had anything like that. They barely even scratched on that surface.

So to me it was too much action / violence and not enough character study."

I will at least understand the too much action-violence part, that is worth mentioning and I would hear that argument.

 

[Master Zik]

I still think many people were looking for a Reeves like Superman.

Seinfeld, which is a big Superman fanboy had this to say about MoS recently.

"I was so happy that they made another Superman movie! I'm really reluctant to be critical of it in any way. But I thought the glossing over of the figuring out a secret identity and why he felt he needed one was a huge missed opportunity for that character, and one of the most interesting things about Superman is the whole secret identity. So to me it was too much action / violence and not enough character study."

I thought it was pretty clear that the secret identity wasn't the main focus as in the end he was barely putting on the glasses and being the Clark Kent we all knew from the 70's. I believe they will explore that further in the sequel but we shall see.I agree that the character could have been developed and presented well but for an origins film, it was pretty good especially if you do not come expecting to see Reeves or a bumbling Clark Kent that is already working in the Daily Planet.

Going off what Jerry said it reminds me of what Bill said of Superman's secret id being Clark Kent in Kill Bill 2. Definitely a missed opportunity.

Aliens in our backyard battling it out doesn't suspend your disbelief enough from the word go?

But using something from the 75 year lore of Superman (glasses disguise) turns off your suspension of disbelief?

No. Not at all. That **** can happen in real life.

That's besides the point though. The concept of aliens and an alien invasion/war/battle as of now is fictional. There's no questioning there appearance in a movie cuz you know it's not real.

The glasses as a disguise though? That's just always been dumb as ****. Just cuz it's been done for a long time (with multiple changing reasons for why it works and never sticking to one) doesn't change that. Don't be disingenuous with comparisons. There's real world logic and in the story logic.

 

[rfx45]

I still think the secret identity and trying to fit in will work best in the sequel. In MoS, they touched up a bit on it but he was mostly searching for himself and why he had those powers. He was a loner that traveled all over and mainly kept to himself.

Trying to fit in the society with a new job and new friends while trying to balance out being a hero and dealing with Metropolis' destruction sounds about perfect for the sequel considering where MoS ended.

 

[rfx45]

Still a rumor but supposedly a more reliable source...

Has Bryan Cranston Been Confirmed For 'Lex Luthor' In MAN OF STEEL 2


But, now AMC offshoot podcast Team Amasian are claiming that they've 100% confirmed that Cranston will play the villain in the Batman Vs. Superman themed sequel to Man Of Steel. The ladies say they can't reveal their sources, but the same ones also claim that Ben Affleck will sport an Alex Ross inspired Batman costume in the movie. They definitely seem pretty certain it's a done deal, but of course until it's OFFICIALLY a done deal we'll have to take it as rumor. Also, it's worth noting that AMC's John Campea took to Twitter last week claiming a couple of "untested sources" revealed to him that Cranston would play Luthor.

 

[donmega]

Hopefully that's true.

Are they supposed to wrap up casting in the next couple of months?

 

[westcoastsfinest]

I know they already filmed the football scene but when do they start filming with Ben, Henry and Gal?

 

[MarvelSux]

i hate Alex Ross :x

 

[lamekilla]

Cranston as Luthor has always been one of the rumors I actually wanted to happen

 

[illmaticsoulchild]

I didn't think that Cranston would have wanted to be a villain again. I was really hoping he would play Gordon in the Batfleck spin-off.

As for the Alex Ross inspired costume, what does that mean? His paintings of Bats are usually just the canon costume, except black instead of blue and a larger chest symbol (sans the yellow background).

 

[MarvelSux]

Matthew McConaughey as Lex would be

 

[kal-el-8]

Cranston as Luthor has always been one of the rumors I actually wanted to happen