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could care less at this point . dude hasnt helped the team out in close to a year and a half
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Never understood the fascination with that guy. He's big and fast and all, but he drops the ball...a lot.
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Originally Posted by Prez T View Post

gotcha , that makes more sense . ill give the podcast a listen -- is it in hour 2 ?

 

My bad for the late reply and you might have heard it already, but they start early in Hour 1 from Tuesday. They get into it within the first long segment.

 

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce View Post

it totally makes sense too. these kids come in their rookie years and actually perform great at corner. mccourty, dennard, ryan...and then year 2 it starts to go to hell as they get more and more coached up. pretty nuts. moving mccourty to safety of course has been great. but dennard cant even get on the field and ryan is buns this year.

 

I'd include the Butler's (Darius and Malcolm) on the regression list. Malcolm forced his way onto the roster as an undrafted invitee from his play in camp and pre-season and now every time I see him out there he looks worse. :{

 

There's something to it.

 

Originally Posted by STR8DROP View Post

I listened to the podcast. I like Bedard because like DSK said he doesn't seem to have an agenda and he actually watches film. At the same time I think they're a lot variables involved when assessing our recent CBs

Dmac for example excelled at corner when were playing more of a off man/ zone based coverage scheme. The following year we started the season playing press man coverage and that's when we seen him get exposed and give up big plays

As far as Ryan he played well last year in spurts. He has really good ball skills that allowed him to mask some of his defiencies and grab 5 picks but let's not act like he was just flat out shutting ****** down laugh.gif . He was one of our biggest liabilities in the playoffs last year. I would have to do a lil digging for the exact numbers but in those two games against the Colts and Broncos damn near EVERY pass that went his way was a completion literally, it was like a 80% completion rating laugh.gifmean.gif

I'm not sure wtf happened to Dennard but I think Arrington would be an exception to this line of thinking. He came in on the practice squad kinda got threw to the wolves and struggled. I know y'all remember how bad dudes hated him laugh.gif. He came back that next year and grabbed 7 picks (prolly cause he got targeted so much laugh.gifmean.gif). Since 2012 however, when we picked up Talib and allowed him to slide inside, he's legit turned into a top slot corner in the league.

With that said it's no secret drafting and developing DBs has been a definite weak point with our team and I honestly thinks it's a combo of talent evaluation, internal development and defensive scheme.

What I have a problem with tho is tryna **** on where Boyer coached at for a whole one year before he came here. BB is notoriously hands on with every aspect of this team ESPECIALLY the defense, you think he's gonna sit back and let someone teach his DBs something incongruent with his coaching philosophy?

All in all keep coming with the discussions brehs pimp.gif

 

Good post. Agree w/ you about Arrington...that's why I left him off the list.

 

BB is hands on and sometimes spends extra time with certain groups when he feels it's necessary, but he's not there to babysit guys either. From everything I've heard/seen/read, he allows his coaches to coach 'em up and trusts them to follow his lead. The only exception to the hands on thing was Scar. Bill let him do his thing and never interfered with the o-line gawd.

 

I find the Boyer thing funny, even though I really shouldn't. They got his *** all the way out from the damn boonies. :lol:{

 

Originally Posted by STR8DROP View Post

Now that I think about it, have we EVER fired a coach under Belichick?

 

Now that you mention it...no, I don't think so. 8o

 

IDK I really do think there's something to the fact that BB likes taking young "scrappy" guys under his coaching wing that he can mold and keep in the org. for continuity. And how much do we see that same philosophy apply to our roster moves? Nothing he loves more than the underdog who pays his dues and develops in the PATRIOTS WAY system.

 

Originally Posted by airtothemax View Post

Never understood the fascination with that guy. He's big and fast and all, but he drops the ball...a lot.

 

Dropsies? Yes. Fast? Not really.

 

I just find it disappointing that either he or them punted on this season due to the issue with the foot. Maybe like DSA mentioned there was no chance he'd make meaningful contributions at all after having the surgery so late. Just gotta hope he bounces back in Year 3 and is motivated enough to not fall in that WR bust group.

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It's frustrating cause we actually went and grabbed a receiver in the 2nd round and although the verdict is still out,  it's not looking good early.  Just like most of the other receivers we've drafted. 

 

BB just cannot draft and develop WRs and DBs for whatever reason :lol :{ 

 

In the last 10 years we've drafted 10 receivers; 4 of em in the first three rounds.

 

These WR are:

 

2014 - Jeremy Gallon - 7th round

2013 -Aaron Dobson - 2nd round

           Josh Boyce - 4th round

2012 - Jeremy Ebert - 7th round

2010 - Taylor Price - 3rd round 

2009 - Brandon Tate - 3rd round

2009 - Julian Edelman - 7th round

2008 - Matt Slater - 5th round

2006 - Chad Jackson - 2nd round :x

2004 - P.K. Sam - 5th round 

 

So out of that the only ones flourishing are a converted QB and ST All Star (No hate on Slater he's one of the best in the biz) :lol|I

 

Haven't really seen enough of Josh Boyce yet so idk about him but hopefully Dobson can have a good offseason and come back strong next year

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I'm disappointed to hear about AD. I feel like he had the most potential out of the receivers brought in last year and he was a solid deep option last year when healthy. I just hope he can stay healthy and focused on improving and getting ready for next season.

That list of drafted WR's is depressing sick.gif
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WRs picked sick.gifsick.gif

couldve gotten Keenan Allen and Kenny Stills i/o of Dobson mean.gif
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BB don't value the position that much.

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hope they win, don't want to see two L's in a row like cool J
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Wrong thread.
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Can someone tell me what that black leash they put around Brady during the Packers game.  Is it to train the drop step?

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Can someone tell me what that black leash they put around Brady during the Packers game.  Is it to train the drop step?

Resistance band

 

Brady:
 “Oh man. That’s just … a leash … it’s a resistance band,” Brady said on the program. “I was just trying to stay warm and that helps me stay really warm. It’s a great exercise to do. 

“When I’m out there in the game, I don’t get a lot of chance to run around, like the receivers who are running the whole game. So I just like to stay really loose, as loose as I can in inclement weather. So that’s what that was for. 

“A leash; that’s pretty good,” Brady added with a laugh.

 

   Tom Brady wears a leash before the Patriots game against the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field on November 30, 2014. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images) 

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Resistance band

 

 

   Tom Brady wears a leash before the Patriots game against the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field on November 30, 2014. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

 

Thanks.


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listened to Bedard from Tuesday , that was good stuff . surprised they didnt put Logan in the bottom three and put Revis in instead . other than that one play he was playing lights out

hoping Chandler Jones plays in this game ; i feel like having him , Ayers , and Easley healthy could wreak havoc on opposing QBs
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I'm thinking he probably will after practicing all week,he was even available for interviews this week for the first time since getting hurt so all signs seem to be leaning towards him playing. Agreed,a healthy Jones to go along with those you named and Hightower should be a force :smokin.

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chandler back would be huge. hope they don't rush him back though...don't want him to get injured again and not be available for the playoffs
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Patriots wide receiver Aaron Dobson was behind on his own personal growth as a sophomore in the offense this season, but he still played a key role to contribute to their success.

When Brandon LaFell was asked about Dobson, who was placed on injured reserve Thursday, the free-agent acquisition brought up the youngster's teaching tools as a key reason for his ability to learn the system.

"He is one of the guys that helped me a lot when I got here," LaFell said. "He pretty much helped me figure my way out through this offense and teach me this offense."

LaFell is third on the Pats with 53 receptions for 712 yards, and he is second with seven touchdowns. All of those marks are career highs. Not a bad assist from Dobson, who suffered a hamstring on his fourth snap against the Packers.

"That’s my dog," LaFell said. "To see him go down, to finally get a chance in the game, throw him a deep ball, a freak accident happens, mess his hamstring up, so it’s kind of bad."
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Still no sign of Chandler Jones, but there have only been about 20 players on the field so far. He typically warms up early, though.
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If he does play,I'm sure it'll be in a limited role just like Gronk earlier this year. No need to rush him back in for today,gonna need him and Dont'a to be 100% for the playoff run.
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he's inactive. i'm OK with it i guess. like you said, let's not rush it.
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Pats inactives: Chandler Jones, Dont'a Hightower, Alfonzo Dennard, Cameron Fleming, James White, Chris White, Jordan Devey.
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hightower tho nerd.gif
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All the signs during the week pointed to Hightower being inactive. It might last into next game, too. :{

 

Not good for tonight.

 

No Chris White and Don Jones was released last week so our ST takes a hit. Malcolm Butler lost his spot after the Colts game due to a his poor play on ST and he's back tonight.

 

Fonzie Dennard inactive. :{

 

Welp. Let's get this W.

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Damn didn't expect for Dennard to also be out mean.gif,Ryan's gonna need to step the **** up this week. I'd rather those 2 sit now then have to sit later as a result of them not recovering properly so I don't mind,definitely some big holes to fill though.
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I think we'll come out strong after losing to GB

 

We need to establish the run game

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Damn Man. Hightower being out tonight is just. . . mean.gif

Jamie Collins gotta step up and be that vocal leader tonight . Let's see if he;s up for it
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gonna have to rely on Casillas to play more snaps at LB . hopefully hes ready
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lets get it! PATRIOTGANG!

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Brady was taking notes from GA Tech last night with that toss lol. 

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