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The training montage with the dirt bikes had me feeling like I could even hop in the ring
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no lie, I ran 5 miles yesterday and another 5 this morning and I must've played this song the entire time
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Just watched it
Thoroughly enjoyed it, glad the final boxing match ended the way it did, knew it would. Not like all other corny movies that make it end like a fairytale story
Overall great acting, scenes, and plots. Movie def got me sad a few times especially with rocky at the doctors and even when he sat at the cemetery, maybe because my father passed a few years ago so it hot a spot but overall very good movie.
Can't knock it at all
Thoroughly enjoyed it, glad the final boxing match ended the way it did, knew it would. Not like all other corny movies that make it end like a fairytale story
Overall great acting, scenes, and plots. Movie def got me sad a few times especially with rocky at the doctors and even when he sat at the cemetery, maybe because my father passed a few years ago so it hot a spot but overall very good movie.
Can't knock it at all
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Dirt bike scene 
Had me hype in my seat ready to throw a punch through my popcorn cup
Had me hype in my seat ready to throw a punch through my popcorn cup
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Felt the same way when this came onDirt bike scene
Had me hype in my seat ready to throw a punch through my popcorn cup
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100%, the Creed soundtrack gonna be the gym playlist for the forseeable future....
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I've seen all of the classic Rocky movies (I-IV) at least 10 times each growing up. I just saw Creed this past Saturday and couldn't wait to get out of the theater. His character lacked grit, passion, charisma, or something else I can't quite place my finger on. I also wasn't buying him training himself by fighting in juvi, fighting in Mexico, then barely having any formidable training and doing so well in two big fights. There were some cool nods to the old movies but overall this film felt very flat to me. I actually fell asleep in the theater at one point.
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After watching the first Rocky after this, I do/did miss all of the loud personalities people used to have back in the day. I'll give Henny that much.
Athletes/Actors are so mundane now, or just see-through in their acts for attention that it just seems forced. There's just something to "characters" that came from the 70s/80s
Athletes/Actors are so mundane now, or just see-through in their acts for attention that it just seems forced. There's just something to "characters" that came from the 70s/80s
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I'll respect his opinion but I strongly strongly disagree
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I don't want to draw to many parallels from the original Rocky since these are different movies after all, but this is why it just didn't feel right to me.
Rocky had nothing. No education (he was a moron), no job (was a petty thug who broke thumbs making collections), no family (Mick was the closest he had; I don’t think Mick even liked him for a long time). He was really a nobody, but, he wasn't ok with being the neighborhood bum and you could see where the only thing he was really good at and gave him some sort of release was boxing. So when he got the chance to fight Apollo, he knew he was probably going to lose, but he just wanted to go the distance to prove to himself that maybe he wasn't just a bum after all. Rocky was a dirt poor, street, scumbag. If it wasn’t for the fact that he was dumb as rocks he probably wouldn’t have been a likeable character. But even though he was dumb he had good intentions and was really a nice, charismatic guy that all the local neighbors seemed to know and take a liking to.
Now Creed… Started off with nothing in group homes getting in fights all the time…(ok. we get it, we get it). But then, Creed’s wife takes him in as her own, he lives in a big *** house w/ a loving mother his whole life (even if she was a step mom she still loved him), he gets educated, gets a great job in finance, nice car. Quits his job, decides to live in a crappy apartment, shows up in all new gear and kicks every day looking for a real Philly trainer. Why? For what? Because he wanted to box? Ok. Well if it didn’t work out for him, he could go right back to the cushy life he had before. No wonder no one wanted to train him with his pseudo struggles. To make things worse, Rocky starts training him only after a brief conversation and Rocky was wayyy too nice to him. I mean Rocky is just a nice guy so that was in character, but, Mick used to give Rocky hell! Johnson was trying so hard to make his own name then ended up taking the Creed name back just so he could skip all of the hard work he was about to put in, that all the other boxers have to put in, so he could be on a big stage in a high profile fight. I do not believe that with his background and a little training from Rocky he had the skills to go against who he did. Just wasn't believable and he just didn’t seem genuine to me and his acting wasn’t great IMO. Seemed like an angry kid who forced struggle upon himself so he could feel better about himself. I can see the one redeeming aspect where, yes, boxing was the only thing he could do ON HIS OWN to prove to HIMSELF he was something. But this is only because he got everything else in life on a silver spoon after he made it out the foster homes.
The girl, was mad cute and I liked how they gave her the character flaw of going deaf eventually. But even she couldn't hold a candle to the character Adrian was. And the whole dynamic between Adrian, Rocky, and Pauly. It felt real. Not like some self-induced struggle story.
Just my opinion though.
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He got everything except for a father. He says in the fight he wanted to prove he wasn't a mistake. All those material things but he didn't have any blood around him.
I think that perspective is very relatable
I think that perspective is very relatable
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I respect this opinion. 1976 is really tough to compete with. I don't think anyone is saying Creed was or is capable of replicating it. Creed was just a really solid three star movie and Rocky is a classic four star movie. I thought Creed did a really good job of modernizing the series, which again is why I find it hard to compare to the original Rocky.
I agree with unlikelihood of a club fighter jumping in the ring with a P4P king, but that can be argued against both the original Rocky and Creed and pretty much every other boxing movie. Rocky wasn't exactly a seasoned vet himself though. The only other fight we witnessed was in a hall against Spider Rico.
Creed was more about redeeming the past and creating your own legacy/identity than it was a "rags to riches" Rocky theme, so I think everything you said about him ditching his comfortable lifestyle is a little moot. He was trying to get rid of the abandoned, bastard child label. At the same time, Rocky filled Apollo's void while Adonis filled Robert's void. By taking his dad's Creed name back at the end, it was symbolic of him letting go of all the hate he had towards Apollo which was one of his main personal dilemmas.
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Man when Adonis was training and then he was running with the bikes behind with with the music :x :x
Definitely going to be working out to that jam
Definitely going to be working out to that jam
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I think Henny has valid points about Creed's character but there is a clear counter to that stance
One of the first headlines I saw on the reviews about this film was..."A Movie every Millennial should see"
Its clear why they would suggest that. They are looking at those same flaws henny pointed out but painting them in a different light. Creed didnt lean on anything he had been "given"... he went the self made route, followed his dreams and made his own way. Thats something to admire about his character.
He didnt ask TMZ to break that story or for all the stuff that followed.
I too had similar thoughts about him being able to hold his own with more experienced fighters but I decided to chalk it up to him being a natural because he had Apollo's genes lol
One of the first headlines I saw on the reviews about this film was..."A Movie every Millennial should see"
Its clear why they would suggest that. They are looking at those same flaws henny pointed out but painting them in a different light. Creed didnt lean on anything he had been "given"... he went the self made route, followed his dreams and made his own way. Thats something to admire about his character.
He didnt ask TMZ to break that story or for all the stuff that followed.
I too had similar thoughts about him being able to hold his own with more experienced fighters but I decided to chalk it up to him being a natural because he had Apollo's genes lol
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I realize it's not fair to draw too many parallells between the two. It is just tough for me to look past the plot holes of Creed without comparing both movies since they really just used 1976 as a template for this movie. I'm over critical, but it's only because I loved the original.
That is a very good point and I will have to agree with you.
I agree with all of this as well. I enjoyed the movie, and I am not calling it a BAD movie. It just was not what I expected. But it was not fair for me to expect a truly gritty movie like 1976 either. That movie felt like real life. Philly was Rocky's home. Rocky belonged in Philly as a fighter. It was truly his only option.
Johnson/Creed was an insert into the world of Rocky. Their struggles are paralleled and both stories are inspiring/ triumphant in their own way. I just feel like they made up a character with the smallest connection possible to Rocky’s world (being Creed’s bastard son) and inserted that character into the world of Rocky, the streets that shaped Rocky’s character. This is why it felt more “shiny” and less authentic and “gritty” than 1976 where he was a believable character off the streets that molded him. Just way too much was going on in the new movie. I hope he moves out of Philly for the next movie.
That is a very good point and I will have to agree with you.
I agree with all of this as well. I enjoyed the movie, and I am not calling it a BAD movie. It just was not what I expected. But it was not fair for me to expect a truly gritty movie like 1976 either. That movie felt like real life. Philly was Rocky's home. Rocky belonged in Philly as a fighter. It was truly his only option.
Johnson/Creed was an insert into the world of Rocky. Their struggles are paralleled and both stories are inspiring/ triumphant in their own way. I just feel like they made up a character with the smallest connection possible to Rocky’s world (being Creed’s bastard son) and inserted that character into the world of Rocky, the streets that shaped Rocky’s character. This is why it felt more “shiny” and less authentic and “gritty” than 1976 where he was a believable character off the streets that molded him. Just way too much was going on in the new movie. I hope he moves out of Philly for the next movie.
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^I think thats why I didnt like the motor bike scene that much. He didnt really show an affinity for it through out the movie prior to that scene. I mean they showed the gym and the motor bikes earlier in the film and made a quick reference to it being a big thing but i dont think they set the scene up for it to come off authentic.
being that some of us know philly is big into motor bikes, i get the appreciation for the inclusion. but without the backstory it came off real goofy to me.
being that some of us know philly is big into motor bikes, i get the appreciation for the inclusion. but without the backstory it came off real goofy to me.
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Bingo. That's why he spazzed on Wood Harris character early in the film.
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Man you seem extremely nitpicky digging into the minutiae like that Just out of curiosity, what are your top 3 Movies ?
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I think the movie went over Hennessys head and he missed the whole meaning of the movie, including when his fist opened when his stepmom offered for him to stay with her. Or when his stepmom told him to not call him. Or when he started calling him Unc and said that makes us like family. Or when Rocky said they weren't family.
While Hennessys has some points, they are mostly irrelevant to the story that the director was trying to tell.
While Hennessys has some points, they are mostly irrelevant to the story that the director was trying to tell.
