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Oh yeah, and copping an older higher end luxury car over a new one just because the entry level ones aren't "doing it" is the equivalent of using a texturizer to get waves.
entry level luxury cars.... EDIT: I DO NOT want one. just want people's opinion.
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**** sounds highly overated especially in my position. My mons is barely home as it is, so
Da place is basically already mine. Now that
This truck money comin in right and when
Business really picks up, what imma do according
Yo ya..waste money proving "imma man/grown up"
Having a empty place that warehouses my shoes?
Sounds like my exact arraignment now
Hispanics dont leave da cribs unless u plan on gettin
Married...and thats far from my plans now.
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HAHAHA!Lets end this value and depreciation debate right now.
Autotrader.com is the biggest used car website in America.
As of today there are a total of 66 listings for a used 2008 Charger SRT8 under 75000 miles. The average asking price is 24337 dollars
][]]&showcaseOwnerId=624229&captureSearch=true&Log=http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=75024&endYear=2008&keywordPhrases=srt8&Log=0&modelCode1=DODCHAR&keywords=srt8&startYear=2008&makeCode1=DODGE&numRecords=100&maxMileage=75000&searchRadius=0&mmt=[DODGE[DODCHAR[]][]]&showcaseOwnerId=624229&captureSearch=true&Log=0
As of today there are a total of 907 listings for a used 5 series BMW the average asking price is 23948 dollars.
[5_SERIES[]]]&showcaseOwnerId=56666255&captureSearch=true&Log=
Keep in mind there tons of 550s that retail for 60K+ in that mix.
So a 5 series BMW cost more at retail and is worth less 5 years later and cost more to maintain.
That is the definition of value.
Much like your 'mentor', you're really drudging up USED vehicles? The only mention of the past, on my end, is production numbers to put an end to your incorrect rambling. I'm not comparing a 2013 BMW 528i to a 2008 BMW 528i nor am I comparing a 2013 Dodge Charger SRT8 to a 2008 Dodge Charger SRT8. Same rules don't apply despite having the same name, genius. No longer the same vehicle(s)...
What's more so amusing about this is that you completely switched lanes avoiding my previous post entirely. Reminiscent of another NTer, no? Regardless, I can still entertain your 2008 'facts' AFTER you respond to your FALSE claim. As of now, you have no credibility other than recklessly using Google for something (anything) to not look like a complete pawn. As I said, your posts are borderline useless...
Please respond to the following:
Again. Where is this proof of 'value'? I've shown evidence indicating it's not...*ahem* da SRT is a brand, and if you're dropping 40-50k for a car, its definitely a popular option, and da fact that it doesn'tThe SRT8 is a novelty whip
People buying 5 series aren't checking for SRT8's
lose its value is definite plus on owning one.
So sad. Another uninformed individual proclaiming things as fact. Considering you're the one asking for concrete information to bypass 'opinion', the irony is laughable...[Pot | Kettle | Black]The production numbers for all cars decreased dramatically in the 2009-2010 model years
Say an SRT8 isn't an in demand vehicle but I know the production numbers and sales of the Challenger version is at an all time high.
You bring up the production numbers of a car declining when the production numbers for ALL cars declined during that time but I don't make any sense.
Don't let facts get in the way of this tar and feathering of Ninjahood though
Production #s for Challenger SRT8s:
2008 - 7,209
2009 - 9,834
2010 - 10,156
2011 - 5,265
2012 - 7,210
2013 - 1,805 (as of 11/12)
"The production numbers for all cars decreased dramatically in the 2009-2010 model years". Just wanted to re-quote this for emphasis...
'A' for effort...
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I'm done with this thread. I just typed up a response but deleted it right after because it made me so depressed I didn't even feel like taking shots. I will just wish ninjahood luck in his future endeavors.
ninjahood is an entertaining NTer and I really hope he gets his Jesus piece before the end of the year so he doesn't leave NT.
ninjahood is an entertaining NTer and I really hope he gets his Jesus piece before the end of the year so he doesn't leave NT.
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Is mama dukes leaving you da Sentra too?
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Lets end this value and depreciation debate right now.
Autotrader.com is the biggest used car website in America.
As of today there are a total of 66 listings for a used 2008 Charger SRT8 under 75000 miles. The average asking price is 24337 dollars
][]]&showcaseOwnerId=624229&captureSearch=true&Log=
As of today there are a total of 907 listings for a used 5 series BMW the average asking price is 23948 dollars.
[5_SERIES[]]]&showcaseOwnerId=56666255&captureSearch=true&Log=
Keep in mind there tons of 550s that retail for 60K+ in that mix.
So a 5 series BMW cost more at retail and is worth less 5 years later and cost more to maintain.
That is the definition of value.
Bingo.
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This, but lets not get it twisted, car hauling is my
Next goal & that is a SOLID 100k gig...
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HAHAHA!Lets end this value and depreciation debate right now.
Autotrader.com is the biggest used car website in America.
As of today there are a total of 66 listings for a used 2008 Charger SRT8 under 75000 miles. The average asking price is 24337 dollars
][]]&showcaseOwnerId=624229&captureSearch=true&Log=
As of today there are a total of 907 listings for a used 5 series BMW the average asking price is 23948 dollars.
[5_SERIES[]]]&showcaseOwnerId=56666255&captureSearch=true&Log=
Keep in mind there tons of 550s that retail for 60K+ in that mix.
So a 5 series BMW cost more at retail and is worth less 5 years later and cost more to maintain.
That is the definition of value.
Much like your 'mentor', you're really drudging up USED vehicles? The only mention of the past, on my end, is production numbers to put an end to your incorrect rambling. I'm not comparing a 2013 BMW 528i to a 2008 BMW 528i nor am I comparing a 2013 Dodge Charger SRT8 to a 2008 Dodge Charger SRT8. Same rules don't apply despite having the same name, genius. No longer the same vehicle(s)...
What's more so amusing about this is that you completely switched lanes avoiding my previous post entirely. Reminiscent of another NTer, no? Regardless, I can still entertain your 2008 'facts' AFTER you respond to your FALSE claim. As of now, you have no credibility other than recklessly using Google for something (anything) to not look like a complete pawn. As I said, your posts are borderline useless...
Please respond to the following:
Again. Where is this proof of 'value'? I've shown evidence indicating it's not...*ahem* da SRT is a brand, and if you're dropping 40-50k for a car, its definitely a popular option, and da fact that it doesn'tThe SRT8 is a novelty whip
People buying 5 series aren't checking for SRT8's
lose its value is definite plus on owning one.
So sad. Another uninformed individual proclaiming things as fact. Considering you're the one asking for concrete information to bypass 'opinion', the irony is laughable...[Pot | Kettle | Black]The production numbers for all cars decreased dramatically in the 2009-2010 model years
Say an SRT8 isn't an in demand vehicle but I know the production numbers and sales of the Challenger version is at an all time high.
You bring up the production numbers of a car declining when the production numbers for ALL cars declined during that time but I don't make any sense.
Don't let facts get in the way of this tar and feathering of Ninjahood though
Production #s for Challenger SRT8s:
2008 - 7,209
2009 - 9,834
2010 - 10,156
2011 - 5,265
2012 - 7,210
2013 - 1,805 (as of 11/12)
"The production numbers for all cars decreased dramatically in the 2009-2010 model years". Just wanted to re-quote this for emphasis...
'A' for effort...
You keep asking for proof in the value of an SRT8 Charger vs a BMW 5 series.
You presented a chart that said a SRT8 Charger depreciated 14K in the first year I called BS and have presented you with proof.
Chysler's production run of Challengers in 2010 lasted three months longer than a typical model year, they refreshed the SRT8 in 11 which caused plants to shut down for a few months.
The numbers are different because the 2010 production run lasted an unprecedented 15 months versus 7 months for the 2011.
The 3 highest sales months the Challenger has ever had since its re-released have occured in 2013
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You gonna buy a house/car within 5 years yet you aint get the jesus yet?ya let social constructs get in da way of common sense? if im making what a 100K a year cat makes with my purchasing power
doing it my way, i can buy w/e other people strive for (house, car, invest) within 5 years with no mortgage and no excessive debt.
pssh...i can't go wrong
Car in 5 years? according to your posts, you'll have the jesus and ZL1 by next year.
Your story falling apart son
5 years is long term goals after i done acclimated
And know what i want for da future. jesus piece
5 months away & da whip is spring 14'..da rest
is stash money for w/e's clever
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I aint trying to argue with Ninja but its weird and hilarious to me to see a grown man type about his moms barely being home, so the crib is basically his
**** sounds highly overated especially in my position. My mons is barely home as it is, so
Da place is basically already mine. Now that
This truck money comin in right and when
Business really picks up, what imma do according
Yo ya..waste money proving "imma man/grown up"
Having a empty place that warehouses my shoes?
Sounds like my exact arraignment now
Hispanics dont leave da cribs unless u plan on gettin
Married...and thats far from my plans now.
..sounds like stuff ****** used to say back when I was younger talkin about "yea i got the crib to my self this weekend, them chicks can come thru"
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This, but lets not get it twisted, car hauling is my
Next goal & that is a SOLID 100k gig...
You graduated 10 years ago and just recently got your CDL and started school.
We will see.
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I mean at this point its pretty much undeniable that a SRT8 anything holds its value better than a BMW.
I can take the time to post 2012 SRT8s VS 2012 5 if yall want but I don't see the point.
5 series may very well be 83838 times the car a SRT8 anything is but its not even debatable that a SRT8 holds its monetary value better.
I can take the time to post 2012 SRT8s VS 2012 5 if yall want but I don't see the point.
5 series may very well be 83838 times the car a SRT8 anything is but its not even debatable that a SRT8 holds its monetary value better.
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I'm simply asking for proof in the value/savings/etc. of why one should actually purchase a Charger SRT8. Literally, pages of nothing from when I asked that to now...
I presented a chart on a 2013 Dodge Charger SRT8 & responded to a 2010 Dodge Charger SRT8 chart posted by ninjahood. You're bring up '08 numbers for what reason? So by that logic, an '08 SRT8 is more valuable than a '10 SRT8? Educate me...
Please link the article referencing this post-production...
Also, is there a Completed Listings-type option on AutoTrader? You do realize you can set the price for ANY amount, yes? Doesn't mean it will sell at that price...
Dudes still don't grasp this concept. For a saturated vehicle like the 5-Series, they're still holding their ground. Yet, you apparently have a limited amount of a 'value' / 'in-demand' / etc. vehicle in the SRT8 that's sitting. Production #s weren't cut for exclusivity purposes...
So you're comparing a mass produced vehicle (528i) that still sells to a limited production SRT8 that no one really wants?
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5 years is long term goals after i done acclimated
And know what i want for da future. jesus piece
5 months away & da whip is spring 14'..da rest
is stash money for w/e's clever
5 years is mid 30s.......................you really still aint get that Loon jesus piece? I stopped going into the jewelry thread but that was years ago now.....you dont even need to explain that one. no biggie
wish you the best, but im sure youre gonna have a diff mindset by 35+
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This thread is just hilarious to me at this point, you have a set of dudes pointing out Ninjahood's bs and another set still going on about the SRT8
mods should just lock this thread already, it's long overdue.
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Which brings me back to da point of why get robbed
Of amenities coppin a bs 528i when a fully loaded
SRT8 comes with double luxury features standard
With all da performance for less money that HOLDS
Its value...other then badge flossing i dont see why.
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Proof of that?
I want actual evidence, not hearsay...
I've personally seen SRT8s sell well below MSRP & I'm sitting on several message boards stating that they were able to purchase their SRT8 (not Super Bee) below sticker along with a $2,500 Rebate. For an in-demand & limited production vehicle, how come these sold horribly? Is there now a sudden change of heart that is currently driving prices up to the heavens? Nope, not today...
Posing this again for the 5th time. What are the savings in a Dodge Charger SRT8? What exactly is the value in purchasing one? Please explain how a typical consumer can handle the fuel expenses, insurance rates, etc. for this 'great buy' | 'high value' vehicle...
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One of his reasons for not having a car was having to keep it clean and he's still in here spitting non sense
Keeping sneakers clean is a whole lot easier. Who said that though?
someone's Caucasian side is showing....
keeping it clean = proper maintenance, mods, insurance, etc...not strictly car wash keeping it clean...
thats what ya doing out here?
and jeep wrangler with no doors in da summer > da aforementioned when it comes to chicks.
I remember a Top-Gear segment years ago where they compared a variety of car to sees which owners women found the most attractive... Jeep Wrangler came out on top.
You mad ? ..... yea you mad.You should, Captain Justice...Ill take the title "wanna be mediator" over pseudo intellectual troll any day...
Its obviousthat Ninja is biased towards the Charger and Sniper is biased toward the 5....
Neither of you seem to get that this is a terrible comparison... 2 totally different markets... People that cop a SRT do it for a raw "old school" driving experience IE tire smoking power and dat sound... people in the market for a base 5 are looking for a quiet sophisticated ride with gas mileage to boot
Neither one is right or wrong.... its all about individual needs and choices.
Oh well... the reactions in this thread are priceless... "dih-loo-zhuhn-al" is an understatement
In regards to being bias towards the F10. Nope. I actually am not interested in either car as the only 5-Series I'd ever purchase would be an E39. The Charger styling is nice, but my own opinion doesn't dictate the overall poor market value...
How can I not get that these are terrible comparisons when I actually asked YOU if you knew their actual competitors as well? I'm purely entertaining & debunking ninja's logic. I'd extract and interpret if dude thought an apple was better than a banana...
The fact that you take little jabs and post in car threads (specifically the Post you Car thread) without ever actually posting a photo of your car, I'm assuming you're another spectator as well. Mediating minions at work...
Cheers, mate. I've given you 2-minutes of my time...
Ive posted my Cars as well as others a number of times in different threads... Including the PYC thread... try again
Ayo, this dude Sniper is out for blood b :x
More like got his Jimmies rustled..... the fact this dude feels the need to go back and forth with people and reply to every single comment he doesn't agree with speaks volumes about his state of mind.
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That's why I also presented trade in values. I mean you don't believe it, its cool like I said before I've actually tried to buy one of those cars nobody was taking the prices that your chart said they should. Its the internet, I haven't attacked you personally not one time in this debate because its not that 5 series.
Truthfully its not fair to directly compare a top of the line trim of one car to an entry level trim of another.
However I'll say this. Hemi cars of any make are mass produced nearly to the extent of 5 series.
And they all hold their value while the 5 series not so much.
Look I'm literally about to go cancel my GAP insurance because I called my insurance agent and if I total my car they are going to take the first 3 advertised prices for my car in the same condition and cut me a check based on the average.
You think insurance companies are trying to pay out money they don't have to if those cars aren't selling for that?
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Was expecting 'u mad, bro?', but I'll take it. The fact that you're continually responding doesn't necessarily mean you're above the 'immaturity'. As I said, wannabe mediators...One of his reasons for not having a car was having to keep it clean and he's still in here spitting non sense
Keeping sneakers clean is a whole lot easier. Who said that though?
someone's Caucasian side is showing....
keeping it clean = proper maintenance, mods, insurance, etc...not strictly car wash keeping it clean...
thats what ya doing out here?
and jeep wrangler with no doors in da summer > da aforementioned when it comes to chicks.
I remember a Top-Gear segment years ago where they compared a variety of car to sees which owners women found the most attractive... Jeep Wrangler came out on top.
You mad ? ..... yea you mad.You should, Captain Justice...Ill take the title "wanna be mediator" over pseudo intellectual troll any day...
Its obviousthat Ninja is biased towards the Charger and Sniper is biased toward the 5....
Neither of you seem to get that this is a terrible comparison... 2 totally different markets... People that cop a SRT do it for a raw "old school" driving experience IE tire smoking power and dat sound
Neither one is right or wrong.... its all about individual needs and choices.
Oh well... the reactions in this thread are priceless... "dih-loo-zhuhn-al" is an understatement
In regards to being bias towards the F10. Nope. I actually am not interested in either car as the only 5-Series I'd ever purchase would be an E39. The Charger styling is nice, but my own opinion doesn't dictate the overall poor market value...
How can I not get that these are terrible comparisons when I actually asked YOU if you knew their actual competitors as well? I'm purely entertaining & debunking ninja's logic. I'd extract and interpret if dude thought an apple was better than a banana...
The fact that you take little jabs and post in car threads (specifically the Post you Car thread) without ever actually posting a photo of your car, I'm assuming you're another spectator as well. Mediating minions at work...
Cheers, mate. I've given you 2-minutes of my time...
Ive posted my Cars as well as others a number of times in different threads... Including the PYC thread... try again
Ayo, this dude Sniper is out for blood b :x
More like got his Jimmies rustled..... the fact this dude feels the need to go back and forth with people and reply to every single comment he doesn't agree with speaks volumes about his state of mind.
As for your cars, I don't recall them so I'm assuming ''they" are negligible pieces of metal & plastic...
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pretty much, I mean dude is older than me with this mentality but "growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional"I aint trying to argue with Ninja but its weird and hilarious to me to see a grown man type about his moms barely being home, so the crib is basically his..sounds like stuff ****** used to say back when I was younger talkin about "yea i got the crib to my self this weekend, them chicks can come thru"
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Finding SRTs on the used market is actually pretty hard. Its a small market and people who buy them tend to keep them for a loooooong time.... as is usually the case with top tier American Cars.
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5 years is long term goals after i done acclimated
And know what i want for da future. jesus piece
5 months away & da whip is spring 14'..da rest
is stash money for w/e's clever
5 years is mid 30s.......................you really still aint get that Loon jesus piece? I stopped going into the jewelry thread but that was years ago now.....you dont even need to explain that one. no biggie
wish you the best, but im sure youre gonna have a diff mindset by 35+
I aint get it cuz i was still knee deep in nike's ***
Them says are coming to a close quickly hence
Da expedited scheduling for da piece now.