Originally Posted by GetYaShinebox
clearly a nerve was struck by this essay of a response
1) The Altima & Maxima are both great cars and offer tremendous value (IMO), had one myself
2) The G being a Nissan product (Nissan "Skyline") is stating the obvious, didn't bother to mention it
3) You proved my point that sometimes you have to go "upscale" as the "downscale" equivalent doesn't exist (like the G sedan, IS, TL-AWD...), this is totally independent of badge engineering and very dependent on (global) marketing. I even considered putting the Nissan badges on, but only for like 5 min
4) I didn't even come close to talking about "average consumers" so you're talking to a brick wall
5) I kinda consider myself an enthusiast, and 6MT and RWD were the first criteria for my car search. I can tell you aren't, so I won't even bother going into how different the G is from the Max/Alt, just acknowledge they're not even close to a "motorhead" although from your perspective, I don't blame you for feeling the way you do. Put another way, I don't give a **** about illuminated kickplates, although my car happens to have them
6) The G is not a luxury car in my sense of the definition
Good choice in cars, hope you enjoy them
No feels were had at all, why would I be upset?
I just was stating for the average person, not the person who's top 2 criteria are RWD and 6MT.
You say you weren't talking about the "average consumer" but there was nowhere where you said that you were referring to a specific car demographic either...
What did I say that makes you think I am not a car enthusiast? Because I didn't side with you on preferring RWD? Are you going to throw a turbo on a new Maxima? Good luck even trying with the CVT guaranteeing you will have issues in your future. The kick plates and other lights are not on my car, and I wouldn't tell my wife to buy a car because of those features, they just so happened to be on the model she wanted on the lot. Like it would make or break a car sale if they weren't on the car?
Again, I was simply stating that you can sell random stuff like that to most (not all) buyers than convincing them on why they should go get a RWD manual car instead.
I responded to your post yes, but obviously it was not meant for you, like I said it wasn't. The type of cars you want, you would never consider a new Maxima because that isn't what you want in a car, but you can't say that G sedans have much to offer over Nissan sedans other than 6MT and RWD/AWD options. For you those 2 options make it a huge difference, but I was saying that aside from the drive-train there is nothing that makes it a "landslide" choice.
I will leave it alone though since I see you are quick question other's car knowledge...