Wasn't New York City More Grimey In The 80s & 90s In Constrast To Now

ksteezy said:

illphillip said:

I don't know where you live, but this is ******g ridiculous to me

Hell no. I've never waited for a train for 45 min-1 hour. Are you waiting for a locomotive somewhere?

I already said it's taken that long to find a spot in our neighborhood.

You out here talking crazy

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Has no problem walking 2-3 blocks to nearest train station, wants to only park directly in front of apt building...

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Where did I say this? Is your reading comprehension this poor? Or do you just enjoy making random yet grossly inaccurate assumptions in an attempt to support your argument.

Which is also grossly inaccurate.

We sweep the neighborhood a good 5-10 block radius. Broadway to Riverside Drive. Uptown and down. And it's still a struggle. So sometimes we actually walk further to/from parked car than we need to for the subway.

How you out here trying to tell me what we're doing? You know better than we do? **** atta here

illphillip said:

I actually moved back to NY from Miami because I hated having to drive everywhere. And parking out there is EASY. Hated traffic.

Plus I felt isolated going from door to car, to location, back to car, to home. Highway travel doesn't lend itself to spontaneity.

I'd at least like the option. But more often than not, I'll take the option to hop on the train or walk. Even in the snow. A little cold won't hurt.

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Makes sense....I enjoy riding the train aimlessly myself sometimes, make it a field trip...just don't like to feel like I have no choice.

It's New York City for ***** sake.

Either way, you have a choice.

Whereas in Miami, the public trans is ****. There your options are definitely more limited.

ksteezy said:

Say wut?...I'll pay you to see you lick an nyc train with confidence.....that's disgusting and the biggest reach in this thread so far..most trains are plain disgusting.

And bro I get it, you are an out of towner who settled in the city, I was raised here...I don't feel the need to be in the middle of the action, when I can have the choice to reach it easily in my free time.

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 Nice try. No transplant. 

You from Detroit *****. Don't play yourself. We know who you are Corporate Thugga.

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Good times.....

The whole car vs train thing is really dependent on your situation.

If you're a college student like myself, where class is in downtown Brooklyn, work is a couple of blocks from home and most of my spots to chill at are in BK/Queens/Manhattan, then a car isn't really necessary. 

illphillip said:

Where did I say this? Is your reading comprehension this poor? Or do you just enjoy making random yet grossly inaccurate assumptions in an attempt to support your argument.

Which is also grossly inaccurate.

We sweep the neighborhood a good 5-10 block radius. Broadway to Riverside Drive. Uptown and down. And it's still a struggle. So sometimes we actually walk further to/from parked car than we need to for the subway.

How you out here trying to tell me what we're doing? You know better than we do? **** atta here

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When your wife gets the new job, I'd love to take the burden off your hands and free you from such a travesty this car has put you through...you should be dying to give it away...I'll gladly take it and donate it to ninjahood

What was the point of quoting that if you were just going to talk about some whole other **** that has nothing to really do with the discussion at hand?

That was pathetic

Lulz....que?...

Don't know if you haven't noticed but this whole thread is a cluster***** with no real discussion...practically another TAN curtesy of yours truly, Ninjahood

ksteezy said:

 

frshstunna said:

I know ppl from all over, and dont know anybody that doesnt own/ want a car just to have that option instead of relying on public transportation only

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That's my whole point....dudes hiding behind the idea that public/transport is the single most amazing thing about ny, you would think is some sort of teleportation device...at the end of the day, you still have to walk to the station, you still have to adjust YOUR schedule to theirs, you still have to jump in a crowded *** train, you still have to feel like you are being cooked in an oven waiting on the train in a summer month....YOU still have to be extremely aware of your sorroundings because you just never know what can happen sharing such a small space with so manyyyyy people....only time I don't drive is when I must head into the heart of manhattan during a weekday, which is rare, simply because of the parking regulations....weekends you are good on parking, I always find parking, lower manhattan which his where most of the nice spots are is usually good on parking as well, uptown is good on parking also...ya need to stop playing games, having a car IS NOT A BURDEN no matter how hard you wanna push that agenda Ninja....it gives you options, sure you can rent...but why go through the inconvenience each time?...imagine picking up a female you are into for a date in a car with "zip car" decals all over it, the jokes will be had by her and her friends behind your back.

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my man, not for nothing, you WILD delusional on what whats NYC one of da best cities in da WORLD.

here's a hint: its not because da west side highway, and FDR drive. NYC's 24 hour Mass transit system is da blood that keeps da city working.

i KNOW you was around when da MTA went on strike for a week or 2 back in 2005-2006, da city was CRIPPLED, it couldn't support da massive

population hitting da streets and trying to wave down cabs, all da traffic gunked up, it was chaos. you OBVIOUSLY was a witness to what happened

to NYC when hurricane sandy disabled da trains past 34 street and flooded all da underground tunnels that led to outer borough hoods, da

city was paralyzed, people couldn't go to work from queens, brooklyn, and da bronx into manhattan. it was awful.

and you're DEFINITELY not gonna tell me about parking b

i ive in washington heights, parking is HORRIBLE after 7pm...atrocious, if you're car isn't parked before da sun goes down you're going to circle

da same 5 blocks for a good HOUR until something frees up. parking for a garage isn't something da average dude with a bull **** honda is gonna afford.

changing da street cleaning laws to once a week made it WORSE, cuz you can have a car lamp in da SAME SPOT WITHOUT MOVING for a damn week.

[h1]Fewer alternate side of the street headaches for upper Manhattan, but dirtier streets might result [/h1][h2]New rules go into effect Monday. Other neighborhoods have seen mixed results.[/h2]Comments (1)[h3]By Laignee Barron / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS[/h3][h5]Tuesday, June 18, 2013, 6:39 PM[/h5]

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[h4]zxie[/h4][h4]Alternate-side-of-the-street parking will be restored in this area Monday.[/h4]

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Uptown drivers rejoice — but fans of clean streets, be warned.

Starting Monday, Washington Heights and Inwood parking restrictions will be eased as street sweeping schedules are reduced — thanks to the neighborhoods’ improving cleanliness.

The alternate-side parking rules, a bane to many city driver, were suspended uptown this spring as the Department of Transportation changed nearly 2,000 parking signs.

Next week, the regulations are back — with a big difference: Drivers on residential streets north of 181st St. will be forced to move their cars only once a week to accommodate street sweepers, down from twice a week.

Street cleaning on commercial streets will not be changed.

“Many people in the district advocated for this change,” said Ebenezer Smith, the district manager of Community Board 12, which includes both neighborhoods.

RELATED: A LIGHT PLIGHT: PARK SLOPE GRIEVES LOSS OF ALTERNATE-SIDE PARKING

The reduced alternate-side regulations has swept across the city since beginning in 2008 in Park Slope.

Community Board 12 is sixth community to get the reduction — but the first area in Manhattan.

The reduction in driver hassle comes at a great cost, however.

“Our cleanliness ratings are down in certain parts of the community now,” said Jeremy Laufer, district manager of Community Board 7 in Sunset Park, which implemented the reduced street cleaning last year.

And, Laufer added, “parking has gotten more difficult (because) people move their car less.”

Street cleanliness ratings also took an initial dip in Park Slope, but its community board’s district manager said eventually the streets got cleaner as residents adjusted.

And there’s one major upside: Fewer traffic tickets for forgetting to move one’s car in time.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...per-manhattan-article-1.1376250#ixzz2dwtKcYBE

like i said before, if you're in manhattan, you dont need a car, and in many cases you're DISCOURAGED from driving anywhere with it, like you said

try actually USING a car to drive to places like time square and 34 street on a weekday, its IMPOSSIBLE, there's commercial driving regulation spots

RIVER TO RIVER from da 60's to da 20's. you leave your car parked on a commercial spot and its a $120 fine and possibly your car towed on top of it.



these are everywhere....i mean afterall, steezy admitted it himself, its impossible to park in downtown NYC. trains are way more convenient.

i drive so i know, alot of ya tend to forget i got acess to a hooptie when i absolutely NEED to drive, otherwise i drive for a living.

and if there's 1 thing i KNOW about having a car in da city is that IT WILL BE ****** UP...you seen all da bumpers in NYC?

you got cars running around looking like






 





having your car looking like surgeons in da operating room



aye..its better that then...

ninjahood said:

 
my man, not for nothing, you WILD delusional on what whats NYC one of da best cities in da WORLD.

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Repped

Basically the same thing I said. 

Hennessy said:

 

ksteezy said:

That's my whole point....dudes hiding behind the idea that public/transport is the single most amazing thing about ny, you would think is some sort of teleportation device...at the end of the day, you still have to walk to the station, you still have to adjust YOUR schedule to theirs, you still have to jump in a crowded *** train, you still have to feel like you are being cooked in an oven waiting on the train in a summer month....YOU still have to be extremely aware of your sorroundings because you just never know what can happen sharing such a small space with so manyyyyy people....only time I don't drive is when I must head into the heart of manhattan during a weekday, which is rare, simply because of the parking regulations....weekends you are good on parking, I always find parking, lower manhattan which his where most of the nice spots are is usually good on parking as well, uptown is good on parking also...ya need to stop playing games, having a car IS NOT A BURDEN no matter how hard you wanna push that agenda Ninja....it gives you options, sure you can rent...but why go through the inconvenience each time?...imagine picking up a female you are into for a date in a car with "zip car" decals all over it, the jokes will be had by her and her friends behind your back.

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Gotta agree with this.

ninjahood is on his #factsonly campaign when in reality, there is more to be learned from personal experiences than quoting articles written by others.

ksteezy, you seem to have actual first-hand experience living in a major city with/without a car the same way that I have (although I only lived a month in the city). When you live it, it's easy to see the advantages/disadvantages. I don't think ninjahood has ever owned a car and lived in the city. Just reads the articles and poses his one side arguments in favor of his current situation so he can feel he has a superior living situation to everyone else. I really can't take him seriously any more with the amount of housing/car related thread derails he has in general. His thinking is illogically warped to condone his ridiculous lifestyle.

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you have ZERO clue what it takes to keep in car living in manhattan. my household has had a car for 40+ years in NYC, i speak from experience.

steezy lives in da damn suburb, his *** would cry uncle if he had to park his car in manhattan everyday, getting his bumper ****** up, not finding parking

at all. even da BRONX has WAAAAY BETTER PARKING compared to heights..pssh when i used to go smash this chick in da south bronx, there was ALWAYS

parking, even late into da night...it was a prayer to expect that in da heightz after 7-8pm.

inwood is da SAME, harlem is da SAME, and it only gets WORST da more downtown you go...get outta here with your bias towards me, you da one

sounding clueless right now about dealing with a whip in NYC.

and i ain't even TOUCH on da insurance rates in manhattan...

Bro...of course the city needs mass public transport!!!!!!...not everyone can afford a car and driving into the city can be a pain...but if I had to chose between dealing with the cons of a train and the cons of a car id go with the car 10/10 times.

Parking in Wash Heights has never been an issue for me and I spend a good time out there on my free days....I love the heights....it doesn't compete with Yankee Stadium traffic I'm sure...hell I even find parking within 15-20 on summer Sundays right by the strip and you should know how crazy THAT gets...guess I just have that touch/patience/eye/aggression for driving in the city, I should be a can driver...lmao

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you have ZERO clue what it takes to keep in car living in manhattan. my household has had a car for 40+ years in NYC, i speak from experience.

steezy lives in da damn suburb, his *** would cry uncle if he had to park his car in manhattan everyday, getting his bumper ****** up, not finding parking

at all. even da BRONX has WAAAAY BETTER PARKING compared to heights..pssh when i used to go smash this chick in da south bronx, there was ALWAYS

parking, even late into da night...it was a prayer to expect that in da heightz after 7-8pm.

inwood is da SAME, harlem is da SAME, and it only gets WORST da more downtown you go...get outta here with your bias towards me, you da one

sounding clueless right now about dealing with a whip in NYC.

and i ain't even TOUCH on da insurance rates in manhattan...

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Basically everything I said, word for word.





 

Is not that serious ninja parking in the heights is not equivalent to hunting down unicorns like you making it seem...guys don't be fooled

ninjahood said:

 

you have ZERO clue what it takes to keep in car living in manhattan. my household has had a car for 40+ years in NYC, i speak from experience.

steezy lives in da damn suburb, his *** would cry uncle if he had to park his car in manhattan everyday, getting his bumper ****** up, not finding parking

at all. even da BRONX has WAAAAY BETTER PARKING compared to heights..pssh when i used to go smash this chick in da south bronx, there was ALWAYS

parking, even late into da night...it was a prayer to expect that in da heightz after 7-8pm.

inwood is da SAME, harlem is da SAME, and it only gets WORST da more downtown you go...get outta here with your bias towards me, you da one

sounding clueless right now about dealing with a whip in NYC.

and i ain't even TOUCH on da insurance rates in manhattan...

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Thanks for informing me. Like I said I can't speak on NYC. Just DC. And I guess one shared disadvantage of living in the heights and living in DC is that it takes a lot to keep a car living (parking, people hitting your car, insurance).

And I never been one to cry about a few bumper scratches...a car is a machine, not a piece of glass.

Oh and insurance?...I pay 150$ full cover a month...not the end of the world for me..lol

ksteezy said:

And I never been one to cry about a few bumper scratches...a car is a machine, not a piece of glass.

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Pics of your car ....

ksteezy said:

Is not that serious ninja parking in the heights is not equivalent to hunting down unicorns like you making it seem...guys don't be fooled

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at "don't be fooled".

You've already said some pretty ridiculous **** in here. How you sound?

Claims to be from "old money", can't afford insurance rates in his neck of the woods. Walking contradiction. What's a few bumper scratches to a big dawg?

And I literally laughed out loud when my dude said he has access to da hooptie, would keel over and die seeing a pic of ninja in that joint like the infamous pharrell picture

The Nomad said:

Peep Game said:

I am still puzzled as how a car can be a burden, unless you get financially strapped at some point.

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Street cleaning in the morning, theft, bumper scars, parking in your neighborhood (ON YOUR OWN BLOCK), congested traffic, sitting in traffic, finding parking in the city $30+ dollars. Tunnels, gas station drama, pedestrians etc...

It's not about being strapped for cash, New York City has a public transportation system that WORKS. Why not take advantage of it? It's cheaper and more entertaining than being cramped in a car for hours. When you ride can take minutes.

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I guess it really is where you live, cause I encounter none of this other than some congested traffic, and that would be areas/times when everybody knows that will take place (unless construction messes that up).

Bumper bully? Well, NY is packed tightly together with what looks like a billion people, so I guess those would definitely be needed

illphillip said:

 

ksteezy said:

 

frshstunna said:

I know ppl from all over, and dont know anybody that doesnt own/ want a car just to have that option instead of relying on public transportation only

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That's my whole point....dudes hiding behind the idea that public/transport is the single most amazing thing about ny, you would think is some sort of teleportation device...at the end of the day, you still have to walk to the station, you still have to adjust YOUR schedule to theirs, you still have to jump in a crowded *** train, you still have to feel like you are being cooked in an oven waiting on the train in a summer month....YOU still have to be extremely aware of your sorroundings because you just never know what can happen sharing such a small space with so manyyyyy people....only time I don't drive is when I must head into the heart of manhattan during a weekday, which is rare, simply because of the parking regulations....weekends you are good on parking, I always find parking, lower manhattan which his where most of the nice spots are is usually good on parking as well, uptown is good on parking also...ya need to stop playing games, having a car IS NOT A BURDEN no matter how hard you wanna push that agenda Ninja....it gives you options, sure you can rent...but why go through the inconvenience each time?...imagine picking up a female you are into for a date in a car with "zip car" decals all over it, the jokes will be had by her and her friends behind your back.

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While you are very much entitled to your opinion, and it's obviously based on your experiences, I'm going to disagree.

Having a car is a burden. My wife and I have one because she needs it for work like 2 days a week (she has to travel to vastly different parts of the city and can't be stuck on trains with no phone/email access).

The other 5 days we don't even touch it and you need to be concerned with parking.

Otherwise we are on the subway unless we go to her parents house. They have a garage.

You're going to extremes in terms of dates with zipcar decals. Walking to the station is the same as walking from where you park to your destination.

NY is the most convenient city in the world, partially because of it's extensive public transportation system. You do not need a car to traverse NYC for the most part.

It is a luxury, not a necessity. And it can provide some additional convenience. But I lived in NYC most of my life without one, as did most of my family, with no problems.

EDIT: sreggie101 makes a good point. I live in Manhattan and get everywhere no problems. If for some reason I needed to get from Queens to BK, I'd just take a cab.

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this & this.

    my cousin is a financial analyst, he's got a fresh M3.....that he ONLY DRIVES on da weekends because he finds it alot more convenient to just

take da train into midtown to work from queens

instead of driving his car, paying for a garage 5 days a week at some icons or central parking lot which is $$$ downtown.

if it wasn't for da fact that my moms used to work in NJ she wouldn't have a car either, da woman has NEVER BEEN ANYHERE IN NYC with it.

every reason i can think about owning a car right now has to do with VANITY and not NECESSITY. you know what imma do when i get a whip?

go to dyckman to da local clubs (which is 2 train stops or a 5 min cab ride away) bull **** around on da west side highway with my goons who

probably gonna want me to drive em around while they chief, stunt with a prissy sassy smizzut that think she's somebody important cuz she's

coming outta a car, and somehow doesn't make her da same one night one pump piece of *** that her foot walking, train taking contemporaries are..

its literally a PURE luxury owning a car in NYC..this is why you dont see CRAZY jacked up hoopties in da city, because its not wortth owning em if

you can do yourself better by just riding da trains.

  and steezy, not for nothing, you lease b....so in essence you a long term zipcar driver if you really put it in perspective. anything you can say

about da advantages of leasing applies to zipcars...think about it and let that sink in. da only advantages of leasing is being able to WRITE EM OFF

ON YOUR TAXES, which is something you should be doing.

ninjahood said:

 
this & this.

    my cousin is a financial analyst, he's got a fresh M3.....that he ONLY DRIVES on da weekends because he finds it alot more convenient to just

take da train into midtown to work from queens

instead of driving his car, paying for a garage 5 days a week at some icons or central parking lot which is $$$ downtown.

if it wasn't for da fact that my moms used to work in NJ she wouldn't have a car either, da woman has NEVER BEEN ANYHERE IN NYC with it.

every reason i can think about owning a car right now has to do with VANITY and not NECESSITY. you know what imma do when i get a whip?

go to dyckman to da local clubs (which is 2 train stops or a 5 min cab ride away) bull **** around on da west side highway with my goons who

probably gonna want me to drive em around while they chief, stunt with a prissy sassy smizzut that think he's somebody important cuz she's

coming outta a car, and somehow doesn't make her da same one night one pump piece of *** that her foot walking, train taking contemporaries are..

its literally a PURE luxury owning a car in NYC..this is why you dont see CRAZY jacked up hoopties in da city, because its not wortth owning em if

you can do yourself better by just riding da trains.

  and steezy, not for nothing, you lease b....so in essence you a long term zipcar driver if you really put it in perspective. anything you can say

about da advantages of leasing applies to zipcars...think about it and let that sink in. da only advantages of leasing is being able to WRITE EM OFF

ON YOUR TAXES, which is something you should be doing.

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We view luxury differently. You live an empty life man. LMFAO though. Thanks for that post.