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Just as his have nothing to do with mine
***Official Breakfast Club Interview Thread***
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Just as his have nothing to do with mine
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If it weren't for Soundcloud, I'm not even sure I'd still be listening to Rap.
They really did provide a solid platform for the true artists to be heard.
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Not a BC interview but still a pretty good one
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While i'm also for people being original...
Let's also not pretend this is the first era that that has happened...i.e. 80% of urban music biting Timbo's drum programming once he came through with his wave...all the knockoff Timbo and Neptunes beats...
Every era of rap post mid-90's commercial explosion of it has had biters trying to capitalize off of a wave
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no one under 25 would care about Em, Nas, Jay's opinion though
Hence jay old dusty *** hating on t-pain and once he sees that the young kids don't give a **** about what he has to say and continuing to bump auto tuned Wayne/Drake/Kanye, he proceeds to have auto tuned Drake/Cudi/Kanye/Wayne vocals on his work and then even working with Travis scott (who relies on probably 5x the vocal touching up that's T-Pain need) and Future
No one cares about what these old heads have to say...the only dude over 35 who opinion would matter to
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...or
i can like some of the work they made in their prime and not give a single solitary **** about what they have to say or feel in 2016
what does me not wanting to listen to made you look in 2016 have to do with me liking Jordan 11's or Belly being one of my favorite movies
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so yachty uzi and thugs existence counteracts chance, joey badass, herb, bibby, dave east, drake (@ times), sean, kendrick, cole, krit, kodak, etc.?Nobody has a problem with the yachtys or uzis, heck, we had vanilla ice, mc hammer, ODB, D12, Bone Crusher, Lil Zanes Chingys, etc. etc.
The difference was a BALANCE, and everyone typically listened to a variety. And didn't COPY. If you copied, you got called out and exposed.
Nowadays, you got unoriginal trying to proclaim their greatness and brag. How you bragging, but a copy cat? I don't respect that (you feel free to do so, if you want).
There has always been fun music in hop hop, nothing wrong with that.
And worse, you got radio jockeys (I don't listen to radio but when I'm riding with other people) I chuckle at them saying certain songs are the hottest and most buzzing tracks, knowing these songs are putrid. I don't care if it's their job,
Viacom can't really control what you listen to anymore bro
Who is preventing the consumer from having this balance? There's no 106 and Park or TRL that chooses Nelly or D4L to put on TV instead of Talib Kweli
Who has given them this stamp though?
Are y'all actually mad at an entity or are you just mad that the kids like what they like. Nobody MADE kids start dressing like Ian Connor/Rocky/Uzi/Carti?
There are no gatekeepers nor evil executives forcing kids to like what they like. 21 Savage is independently flourishing making murder music and Chance is independently flourishing making positive post-rap gospel. So what's the agenda and who's pushing it?
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People said this 10/20/30/40 years ago.
Every generation thinks they're better than the one that comes after.
Truth is, you eventually age out of this culture. To an extent. Hip hop is for everybody but it's concentrated on the youth because it's always been a young people's genre. We're just now seeing late 30 and 40 somethings be successful in this.
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Looking forward to this one.
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Glad he took that grill out so he could really talk.
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Lakeith Stanfield - Snoop in Straight Outta Compton and Darius in Atlanta.
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There are no gatekeepers nor evil executives forcing kids to like what they like. 21 Savage is independently flourishing making murder music and Chance is independently flourishing making positive post-rap gospel. So what's the agenda and who's pushing it?
I agree with you to an extent, but the main point to counter this argument is simple: Influence.
These young guys have an abundance of influence over the kids in the 14-18 age bracket. These are the kids who listen to these dudes talk about poppin Xans and sipping lean, then go ahead and do it. See the clothes these kids are wearing, then go cop them. Hear the **** they say in their music, and then go do it. It's honestly just the cycle of things and how teenagers just jump from one trend to another. It's natural.
So when people have concerns about the music being pushed out I feel like they're legit because of the way these kids get sucked into whatever is being shoved down their throats at the moment.
Word to Chief Keef and Drill music influencing most of our youth into throwing up gang signs they have no damn idea about and talking about "opps" and "gang gang." That's problematic no matter how you slice it.
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Simple... RAISE YOUR KIDS. If you're a parent and not even a smidgen of a role model to your kids, therein lies the problem. Growing up, my household was never PG-13. They talked about the good and bad of the world, told us the consequences, and it was on you. I was 5, 6 years old, watching movies like New Jack City and Menace 2 society, listening to vulgur and uncensored music.
Moms always told me what the consequences of robbing, stealing, killing, and doing drugs could do. It's all real, I'm glad she told me and showed me what harm could be done, if I slept up. A lot of kids are green to society because they are coddled by their parents.
If you're kid needs Uzi or 21 savage to influence them on a personal level, not just see them as entertainers, parents screwed up in the head.
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This is all fine and dandy but science disagrees with you.
It is a FACT that sound influences behavior. You can talk all about parents, right and wrong, blah blah blah, you release dopamine when you listen to music. When people broke out in tears and fainted in the presence of Michael Jackson...it's not because they were simply "entertained". Music moves masses of people. It is THE universal ritual.
When we talk about influence and how artists influence, there's a whole other side to this conversation besides what's on the surface.
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If that's the case, what's the difference between a normal conversation or dialogue, and music? It's a form of sound, frequency, and vibration? If a stern parent tells their child what could happen to them, in an emphatic tone, where's the difference bruh? There is none. My point was tell them the CONSEQUENCES. If you choose to do it, it's on you. It's different than a parent hiding something because eventually, a kid will rebel at some point.
I'm a sober individual (neither smoke nor drink) but I do know that adults who smoke and drinks + listen to certain type of songs get rowdy and out of control too. Again, there are consequences to every action. If a person is fine with the outcome, then it's whatever.
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Which is why I said I agree to an extent because there's people like you who had someone to regulate them and let them know there's consequences to every action.
The teenage mind is a fragile thing tho. They're influenced every other day by something. If it's poppin and their friends are doing it, 9 times outta 10 they're going to too. There's kids out here right now on all types of pills and codeine, high as **** killing each other.
Yes, you could say that's "just the hood," but certainly listening to 21 Savage talking about popping a Perc and sipping some lean before he goes to kill a person doesn't help.
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Adults are the ones enabling the behavior. I can't understand how a 13, 14, 15, 16, 17+ year old even locates percs, xans, codeine, etc
Like, where are these kids finding or sneaking and finding these things? No teenager has a marijuana grow house, or machine to churn out capsules of pills.
How does a teen weasel their way to find drugs? I'm 28 years and wouldn't even know how to go about it. It's the adults influencing and funding this stuff. Don't blame the youth for stuff being done by adults. It be grown men sending kids on missions to do credit card scams, sell drugs, etc. hold the adults more accountable.
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Bro, I can ask my 17 year old cousin where to get Percs and Xans from, and it probably wouldn't take him more than an hr to find it. The so-called "legal" drugs are out here just as much as the illegal ones.
Nobody is blaming the youth for anything. But how can you not acknowledge that kids/teens are easily influenced?
Nobody is blaming the youth for anything. But how can you not acknowledge that kids/teens are easily influenced?
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why are these condoms in our house
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To keep it a buck i just try to ignore these lil ****** as much as possible, I don't listen to much radio but i think it's safe to say that Uzi, Thug, Savage, Yachty etc etc aren't exactly making hit records. They have their fan base but outside of these dickriding hipster *** blogs that music doesn't really cross my path much.
I don't know what the appeal is to some of these ****** but that's what they like. I only get annoyed when one of these dusty face lil ****** start to claim so & so isn't "Hot" while idolizing a rapper who ain't did **** in their own right.
It's all about demographics, these lil ****** claim to be king of the "youth" but in reality they are in a very small pocket. There's A LOT of youth following Cole, Kendrick, Drake.... there's another group that **** with Herb, Bibby, Dave East, Youn M.A... another group that ***** heavy with Migos, future, Gucci etc etc
Most of the youth ain't following these artist as much as the internet has made it seem. Hence i'm in NYC i've never heard a single ***** bring up Yachty.... but the younging over here are bumping Meek, Uzi, A Boogie.
All in ALL the guys who are really atleast attempting to make timeless music are much more influential then the **** the internet will make you believe is big. These lil ****** are just Lil B part deux, it seems larger than life in certain pockets of the internet, but once you break away the influence & notoriety Fades at a rapid pace.
I don't know what the appeal is to some of these ****** but that's what they like. I only get annoyed when one of these dusty face lil ****** start to claim so & so isn't "Hot" while idolizing a rapper who ain't did **** in their own right.
It's all about demographics, these lil ****** claim to be king of the "youth" but in reality they are in a very small pocket. There's A LOT of youth following Cole, Kendrick, Drake.... there's another group that **** with Herb, Bibby, Dave East, Youn M.A... another group that ***** heavy with Migos, future, Gucci etc etc
Most of the youth ain't following these artist as much as the internet has made it seem. Hence i'm in NYC i've never heard a single ***** bring up Yachty.... but the younging over here are bumping Meek, Uzi, A Boogie.
All in ALL the guys who are really atleast attempting to make timeless music are much more influential then the **** the internet will make you believe is big. These lil ****** are just Lil B part deux, it seems larger than life in certain pockets of the internet, but once you break away the influence & notoriety Fades at a rapid pace.
