XBOX GAMING THREAD | PHIL TRUE 4K

[Ricky D]

I'm sure TF will be a good game but I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed. Everyone's expectations are so high because Respawn are part of the team that made CoD 4. No doubt, CoD 4 redefined the FPS experience on PS3/360 (I don't play PC) but is it a guarantee that they can do it again?

 

[MajinZuub]

It's a new gaming series with a multiplayer that isn't going to be COD. If the developers felt like 6 vs 6 is what's best for the game take their word for it and hope for the best, I don't see how there can be all this critique for something nobody has played yet. Obviously they recognized the capabilities of the next gen systems and still made a conscience decision to go 6 vs 6 so I'm sure there is a reason behind it.

 

[carver]

I'm sure TF will be a good game but I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed. Everyone's expectations are so high because Respawn are part of the team that made CoD 4. No doubt, CoD 4 redefined the FPS experience on PS3/360 (I don't play PC) but is it a guarantee that they can do it again?

100% guaranteed there will be a lot disappointed people thankfully I never hyped the game up so hard.. Nor was I even excited when it seent it at E3 but over time it looked pretty fun and it's a new shooter so I was gonna buy it anywho.

And Zube cause it's next gen we want 100v100!!

 

[Bad Religion]

Im more bummed about no single player than 6 v 6.

6 v 6 is a staple. Only recently have games really stepped away from it. I remember 4 v 4 in Halo was still pretty awesome.

These guys know what they are doing. Say what you want about the COD series, there is a reason it sells so well. Respawn has my trust until they decide to DICE it up.

 

[blastercombo]

Again, we have no clue how the game plays out, map sizes, weapon range, ect..... Why is 6v6 even a problem when nothing about the game is even known?

 

[Ricky D]

Im more bummed about no single player than 6 v 6.

6 v 6 is a staple. Only recently have games really stepped away from it. I remember 4 v 4 in Halo was still pretty awesome.

These guys know what they are doing. Say what you want about the COD series, there is a reason it sells so well. Respawn has my trust until they decide to DICE it up.

Yes. IMO charging $60 for a game with no campaign seems ridiculous. I wonder how many maps and game modes there will be. I assume there is gonna be something "extra" to make up for the lack of SP.

 

[djyoung08]

It's a new gaming series with a multiplayer that isn't going to be COD. If the developers felt like 6 vs 6 is what's best for the game take their word for it and hope for the best, I don't see how there can be all this critique for something nobody has played yet. Obviously they recognized the capabilities of the next gen systems and still made a conscience decision to go 6 vs 6 so I'm sure there is a reason behind it.

thank you. Vince Zampella stated it was the best balance of AI....

We've never had a MP where up to 12 AI controlled robots roam around and "play like humans" with 12 people.

This isn't Battlefield

This isn't Call Of Duty

This isn't Halo.


How do you guys know the developers are soooooooooo wrong for deciding 6v6 was the optimal play style for their game that they've been developing for how many months now???

The Devs say its a new FPS, a refreshing change the genre has needed, etc. etc. etc.

When it comes out and 6v6 turns out to be mediocre... U already know there will be a youtube, twitter, etc. uprising on how lame it is and Respawn will patch stuff up and add a larger scale gameplay.

Infinity Ward is patching up the spawns on ghosts.... all it took was a bunch of crying twitter accounts and youtube videos.


I think we need to reserve judgement on whether its a good idea or not until after the game is out, and we have at least 10 hours of play time.

I was actually hoping for a 4v4 style because I'm hearing talk that TF could land it's way into MLG and I am gonna be all over that if it does.

 

[RustyShackleford]

So you're all okay with a next gen console to have a game that already has 24 bodies in a lobby only being playable by 12 people at a time?  I hate to compare bc its not out yet, but BF2 (TWO!) on my old *** PC (wayyy worse specs that our next-gen consoles) could support 64 players in a lobby w/ tanks, w/ trucks, w/ helicopters, and jets

Respawn (a team which has never made a game that has been less than great) said the prototyped the game from 1v1 all the way up to high numbers

6v6 provided the best experience, the rolled out a 6v6 demo at all the summer expos. Not one complained, not a single person, everyone was going crazy for the game.

So know they come out and say basically, "you know that demo you played this summer, the real game is similar to that experience". And know it is a knock on the game?

Wait til the game comes out, don't like it, don't buy it, but we all know this will be a non issue come launch.

 

[carver]

x V x amount of players doesn't matter. It's the play type and style that changes the game.

I see a lot of y'all are following me on xbl but not friending me lol. I don't even know what that means

that means they friended you

 

[donpoppa]

i just figured why im always signed in. the kinect facial recognition signs me in again if i walk away from the tv and come back after being signed off.

 

[iYen]

 

Im more bummed about no single player than 6 v 6.

6 v 6 is a staple. Only recently have games really stepped away from it. I remember 4 v 4 in Halo was still pretty awesome.

These guys know what they are doing. Say what you want about the COD series, there is a reason it sells so well. Respawn has my trust until they decide to DICE it up.

Yes. IMO charging $60 for a game with no campaign seems ridiculous. I wonder how many maps and game modes there will be. I assume there is gonna be something "extra" to make up for the lack of SP.

Campaigns now hold very little value.

So I think that they're justified in their decision to do away with cp mode.

 

[Ricky D]

 
Campaigns now hold very little value.

So I think that they're justified in their decision to do away with cp mode.

This is true but for $60 and $250 CE, I hope they have something to make up for that lack of SP. I haven't really followed the game as much as some of you, so I don't know about game modes, the number/size of maps etc.

 

[blastercombo]

Yeah, no single player in 2014 for 60 bucks is a joke. It's common practice for a reason.

 

[rrlegend]

Yeah, no single player in 2014 for 60 bucks is a joke. It's common practice for a reason.

I'm one of those guys that play single player on every cod and fps along with fighters. I beat bf4 , ghost , and killzone campaigns in a week because I just wanted to see the endings to em

 

[djyoung08]

Vince Zampella explains why there will be no single player campaign:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/24/why-titanfall-has-no-single-player-campaign

"We make these single-player missions that take up all the focus of the studio, that take a huge team six months to make, and players run through it in 8 minutes," he said. "And how many people finish the single-player game? It's a small percentage. It's like, everyone plays through the first level, but 5 percent of people finish the game.

"Really, you split the team. They're two different games. They're balanced differently, they're scoped differently. But people spend hundreds of hours in the multiplayer experience versus 'as little time as possible rushing to the end' [in single-player]. So why do all the resources go there? To us it made sense to put it here. Now everybody sees all those resources, and multiplayer is better. For us it made sense."

Zampella goes on to explain there will be some narrative in the game, but it'll all be accessed through the multiplayer modes. Additionally, he asserted that the single-player/multiplayer blend could work if studios have enough resources, and cited the Assassin's Creed franchise as one which had got it right.

Personally I like that they've focused all their attention to competitive multiplayer.

The more people complain about TF makes me realize how much Respawn is catering to the competitive community of gamers and it is making me more and more excited for it.

 

[Ricky D]

I'm not knocking the lack of SP, I just think for $60 there'd better be something to make up for the lack of SP. I'm curious about the number and size of the maps. Also looking to see the game modes.

 

[blastercombo]

Meh, halo makes both good mp and single player. Sounds like a cop out answer really. Do I really care about sp myself? No. But a lot of people do

 

[carver]

What's single player

 

[sole vintage]

I hope the dedicated servers are up by the time it releases. If the servers are dodgy like BF4, players are basically going to own a coaster for the first month.

 

[carver]

Yeah, if this launch is anything like the bf launch :x rip respawn

 

[putting in work]

I haven't played through SP of any of the COD games since I think MW2 I believe, but I've played through every single Halo campaign so them fools over at Bungie or 343 better not think they can pull this off with Halo.

I will probably pick up an XB1 around the time Titanfall drops, but right now I'm good on buying one.

 

[Zephyr1983]

Im more bummed about no single player than 6 v 6.


6 v 6 is a staple. Only recently have games really stepped away from it. I remember 4 v 4 in Halo was still pretty awesome.


These guys know what they are doing. Say what you want about the COD series, there is a reason it sells so well. Respawn has my trust until they decide to DICE it up.

Yes. IMO charging $60 for a game with no campaign seems ridiculous. I wonder how many maps and game modes there will be. I assume there is gonna be something "extra" to make up for the lack of SP.

There is no consensus a all that every MP game should have large teams. It has nothing to do with the power and performance of the machine, and everything to do with how the MP is designed

BF would be bunz if you played it 4v4 because the gameplay is doodoo and requires large scale chaos to make it fun
GoW and Halo work at 4v4/6v6 because the gameplay is refined, and it would probably play like poop if it was 32v32

My only concern with TF being 6v6 is that the AI needs to be flawless johnny-on-the-spot



Never played more than a couple hours total of COD SP across all the COD games. Always got my $60 worth
Cutting SP was the right choice. Its a waste for most MP players, which is what drives the market for FPS

 

[djyoung08]

What's single player

Exactly.

I'm pumped for the Multiplayer campaign missions.

 

[blakep267]

Ok so it looks like there will be 12 AI players on both sides along with the 6v6.

 

[100proof]

I hope the dedicated servers are up by the time it releases. If the servers are dodgy like BF4, players are basically going to own a coaster for the first month.

Dice used EA servers, Respawn is using MS Azure, servers should be solid