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DangerousG said:

Shades of Breaking Bad with that sniper threat too

Except Rust dont **** around

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and lol @ taking Errol alive.... he was literally about to drop the hammer on woody.

Found it, finale credit music

tigo0240 said:

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anyone know what song played during the end credits?

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RustyShackleford said:

 

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end credits of the 8th episode?

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Wrong song.

HBO just posted it

Yes taken ALIVE

they blasted that one guy's face off

and now Errol's dome

IMO it would have made a better finale if Errol had the opportunity to explain/confess like K. Spacey in Se7en

Rust w/his interrogating skills would have been more interesting than getting closure through NDE/coma

Thoroughly enjoyed this shows first season more than I have any other show in recent memory.

Ending convo about love and the light/darkness . Dat dialogue poetry vibe.

Show was brilliant. Season 2 has a huge precedent to follow.

'True Detective' creator Nic Pizzolatto looks back on season 1

And it would have been the easiest thing in the world to kill one or both of these guys. I even had an idea where something more mysterious happened to them, where they vanished into the unknown and Gilbough and Papania had to clean up the mess and nobody knows what happens to them. Or it could have gone full blown supernatural. But I think both of those things would have been easy, and they would have denied the sort of realist questions the show had been asking all along. To retreat to the supernatural, or to take the easy dramatic route of killing a character in order to achieve an emotional response from the audience, I thought would have been a disservice to the story.

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Second watch...theres still alot of questions needed to be answered. Like...i wish they went in deeper on the actual cult and the purpose of the antlers and the logo spiral thing.

I loved every minute of the finale. I was sitting with my back against the wall and I could feel my heart pounding and moving my whole body. You wouldn't believe the yelp I let out when Errol got Rust in the stomach.

I'm really happy that they both survived too. It seemed like a lot of people were expecting the typical "one guy dies" ending because the rest of the series was so bleak. It's great to me that we actually got the "happy" ending.

I also can't put in to words how happy it makes me to see so many of the convoluted reddit theories come up short. That community has a tendency to ruin things with all of their try hard predictions and collective hyper-analysis. I hate that place.

MrONegative said:

Feelin like Bio-Shock in the bayou.

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That sounds incredible...would play.

Yeezy83 said:

Yes taken ALIVE

they blasted that one guy's face off

and now Errol's dome

IMO it would have made a better finale if Errol had the opportunity to explain/confess like K. Spacey in Se7en

Rust w/his interrogating skills would have been more interesting than getting closure through NDE/coma

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Do you really think Errol was the type of person to give up a confession? He would have just spit out tons more of that weirdo jibber jabber.

Very underwhelning finale. I definitely expected something much more epic.

So why did Marty's daughter draw those pictures?

Are the Tuttle's just going to get away with everything? Are we just supposed to assume things will all come to the light when everything is said and done with the evidence they released?

Why did Errol have his daddy chained up in the outhouse?

What was the opening scene of episode 1?

An I don't think.the show was over analyzed. They purposely dropped easter eggs in that show and made allusions to outside events, they encouraged everything to be analyzed. Then they go and give us some cut and paste ending. I've seen more compelling SVU endings. This was wholly disappointing.

Rico x Hood said:

Very underwhelning finale. I definitely expected something much more epic.

So why did Marty's daughter draw those pictures?

Are the Tuttle's just going to get away with everything? Are we just supposed to assume things will all come to the light when everything is said and done with the evidence they released?

Why did Errol have his daddy chained up in the outhouse?

What was the opening scene of episode 1?

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The story with Marty's daughter has more to do with illustrating how worthless Marty was at his home life and being a good husband/father. Notice how much better off the family was after Marty got divorced.

And yep the Tuttle's will probably keep the whole thing under wraps and get away with it. It just the way things are and its probably pretty true to real life scenarios. The case was never gonna get solved 100% cleanly with all the conspirators getting taken down, it wasnt the story that Pizzolatto was interested in telling.

I dont think it really matters why Errol had his daddy chained up, it doesn't affect the narrative. It's just showing what kind of crazy **** Marty and Cohle were dealing with.

Rico x Hood said:

Very underwhelning finale. I definitely expected something much more epic.

So why did Marty's daughter draw those pictures?

Are the Tuttle's just going to get away with everything? Are we just supposed to assume things will all come to the light when everything is said and done with the evidence they released?

Why did Errol have his daddy chained up in the outhouse?

What was the opening scene of episode 1?

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"The problem is, there were more bad guys. People who were smarter, higher up, and had better connections. They're just gone now. At least from Louisiana. Rust and Marty were too late to take down Carcosa when people like Billy Lee Tuttle were running things. What they finally stumbled upon was simply all that was left."

and

"Yup, and Cohle mentions that they didn't get them all to Marty. I think it's important that not everyone is caught because it shows the reality that you can't get them all, but that it doesn't make it a loss. It also shows the futility of trying to make everything right in the world, because in reality you can't. That was Cohle's original viewpoint on life, and it wasn't necessarily wrong, but it was so pessimistic that he was missing out on the little stars of light that creep through the black sky of life. In his coma, he finds the love and discovers the light. Marty transforms through his actions, we see his bravery and such. Rust is still a dynamic character, seen through his final monologue and closing line."

On to Audrey I feel like this post explains it really well

"I think all of the stuff that people are taking as "red herrings" — the Audrey doll scene, the flowers, etc. — they're not red herrings nor clues to a literal mystery, but motifs, and emblems of how deeply embedded in the culture the evil was. The spirals, the stick sculptures, all of that which we see in endless variations in the backgrounds shows us that the icons of the "ancient evil" (as NP put it) are everywhere ("he is all around us") — for Audrey to be literally exposed to the tape or abused or whatever is boring, poor writing. She didn't need to be. She was far more effective and far more haunting as the product of environment in which the ritual culture was a kind of constant background tone. Of course she would paint spirals or yellow kings or whatever — they're as much part of her unconscious symbology as, say, the apple and the snake are to us. And that's a far scarier kind of evil."

All courtesy of Reddit.

Rico x Hood said:

Very underwhelning finale. I definitely expected something much more epic.

So why did Marty's daughter draw those pictures?

Are the Tuttle's just going to get away with everything? Are we just supposed to assume things will all come to the light when everything is said and done with the evidence they released?

Why did Errol have his daddy chained up in the outhouse?

What was the opening scene of episode 1?

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Use your brain, draw your own conclusions. I mean jeez, do you really have to have everything spelled out for you?

Big pet peeve of mine when people get caught up on all these minor details.

Solidus Snake said:

Rico x Hood said:

Very underwhelning finale. I definitely expected something much more epic.


So why did Marty's daughter draw those pictures?


Are the Tuttle's just going to get away with everything? Are we just supposed to assume things will all come to the light when everything is said and done with the evidence they released?


Why did Errol have his daddy chained up in the outhouse?


What was the opening scene of episode 1?

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"The problem is, there were more bad guys. People who were smarter, higher up, and had better connections. They're just gone now. At least from Louisiana. Rust and Marty were too late to take down Carcosa when people like Billy Lee Tuttle were running things. What they finally stumbled upon was simply all that was left."

and

"Yup, and Cohle mentions that they didn't get them all to Marty. I think it's important that not everyone is caught because it shows the reality that you can't get them all, but that it doesn't make it a loss. It also shows the futility of trying to make everything right in the world, because in reality you can't. That was Cohle's original viewpoint on life, and it wasn't necessarily wrong, but it was so pessimistic that he was missing out on the little stars of light that creep through the black sky of life. In his coma, he finds the love and discovers the light. Marty transforms through his actions, we see his bravery and such. Rust is still a dynamic character, seen through his final monologue and closing line."

On to Audrey I feel like this post explains it really well

"I think all of the stuff that people are taking as "red herrings" — the Audrey doll scene, the flowers, etc. — they're not red herrings nor clues to a literal mystery, but motifs, and emblems of how deeply embedded in the culture the evil was. The spirals, the stick sculptures, all of that which we see in endless variations in the backgrounds shows us that the icons of the "ancient evil" (as NP put it) are everywhere ("he is all around us") — for Audrey to be literally exposed to the tape or abused or whatever is boring, poor writing. She didn't need to be. She was far more effective and far more haunting as the product of environment in which the ritual culture was a kind of constant background tone. Of course she would paint spirals or yellow kings or whatever — they're as much part of her unconscious symbology as, say, the apple and the snake are to us. And that's a far scarier kind of evil."


All courtesy of Reddit.

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After reading that...makes me appreciate the show even more. I should have realized this

Why should I have to draw my own conclusions? I'm not a writer on the show. You invest time into a show you deserve to have closure when it is done. This is one of the reasons I hate The Sopranos ending.

Anyway, as for this final ep and season

@ this beginning. They got Errol sounding like Tom Hardy with this British accent and is that ol girl from The Americans or Masters of Sex he's fingering :x

Seeing that's it's revisited here, this guy Steve's reaction to the tape without even showing more, the pan out to Marty drinking and Steve's "why are you showing me this?", then switch out to just the boat and his screams was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Marty's reaction last ep. That brings a sense of pressure and weight to the scene that emphasizes and truly portrays the horrifying images the man is viewing. Granted they didn't show a bit more and then cut it off at the very graphic part like I brought up but as I said there's ways to make something like that have more of an impact.

:x @ dude smashing

"No."

Then this ep turns in to one of the scarier horror movies I ever seen. Son's voice is echoing throughout these caverns, talking to Rust like a mad man. "Acolytes", "You know what they did to me?", "...I am not ashamed" and then fool Marty yelling Rust name giving away his location.

This "fight" scene was straight torture, ripped the knife over to the middle of his stomach, tomahawk/axe to the chest then pushed it in some more :x

The other sis ended up bulky, built for football looking girl. Then Rust wants to get all depressing about we aint catch them all, then the middle fingers

Rust breaking down a bit in the end while metaphorically waxing poetic and then deciding to dip

All around great finale



As far as this entire season goes, it was what I thought it was and I loved it. It's nice to see the rest of yall realized all of those ridiculous theories were of no help or importance despite that being kinda clear from like ep 5 on. Once we got word this was basically an anthology series and this cast was gone after this season yall should know that the only thing that really mattered were the two detectives, the case and whoever would end up being the killer(s). Should've noticed half way in to the season that all of these supporting characters will not have their own subplot where they're developed everything that's done ties back in to Rust's and Marty's story over these 14 years. From Maggie, to Marty's daughter and her rebellious teen years, to all of Marty's side pieces. Every domino that fell ended up effecting those two characters. I can't buy wanting to know more about somebody else when this is laid out pretty clearly. You're in the right to scoff at ppl trying to play the feminist angle for this show.

This was a thorough cop drama about a messed up case. Show never lied to you about that. Never made you think it was doing one thing and then did the next. Always straightforward in this mystery, twists and turns sure but no out of left field surprises where you needed to do in depth research on clues to make a theory or deep character insights for characters not named Marty and Rust (and even their characters are pretty straight forward despite the layers). Now usually if it weren't for the performance of the duo of MM and Woody an approach like that wouldn't be all that interesting but instead of trying go hard on all 8 eps and add extra stuff to other characters it seems Pizzolato stuck to what he planned out and served things up straight in the 8 eps. I'm not mad at that or disappointed. Ending wise, it's just like Marty this aint the type of world we live in where everybody is caught for heinous crimes but they got their guy.

One real complaint though, I'll say I got over the bad green screen even though it was pretty clear Rust and Marty were never driving anywhere with that in the car scenery and they weren't really in front of a hospital at the end

I'm not riding McConaghey as hard as everyone else... I'm not convinced that it's some transcendent performance. But what I did really like about the show was the excellent production value. Holy sht that show knew how to make you feel suspense with a great mix of editing/sound. Very much enjoyed when Rust was walking through the tunnels at the end... I was on the edge of my seat.

I blame Lost for all these damn theories. People are still trying to relive their memories of Lost

Its not the worst thing ever because it gets people talking about the show and builds interest but it does get annoying when theories are ALL people talk about. It just derails any real discussion of the show. And then there will be the inevitable whining from some when the ending doesn't live up to the crazy theories

Rico x Hood said:

Why should I have to draw my own conclusions? I'm not a writer on the show. You invest time into a show you deserve to have closure when it is done. This is one of the reasons I hate The Sopranos ending.

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The show gave closure, you just put way too much focus on things that weren't meant to be anything more than they were on face value.

There is no mystery to Audrey's drawings. Kids draw ****** up things from time to time and it's also possible she happened to see some **** at a young age. Didn't she end up to be some painter/artist? I mean damn.

Why did Errol have his father's corpse chained up? Why did the sick rapist serial killing **** have his father chained up? Are you ******* serious?

Some of the Tuttle's get away. That's life.

I think one main thing ppl miss or misinterpret about police is that they're not about prevention and there's very little active protection going down. Detectives show up after the crime is committed. They search for the killers and whatnot. If a big conspiracy of rape and murder of children are going down it's not going undo what happened to the victims, just limit how many there are. Some of the bad guys get away and live a full alive until old age.

Plenty nazis went unpunished.

DangerousG said:

I blame Lost for all these damn theories. People are still trying to relive their memories of Lost

Its not the worst thing ever because it gets people talking about the show and builds interest but it does get annoying when theories are ALL people talk about. It just derails any real discussion of the show. And then there will be the inevitable whining from some when the ending doesn't live up to the crazy theories

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Same thing I said about LOST in relation to this craze for everything to be a clue and there to be some deeper mystery to a story (although LOST definitely did keep hyping **** up) and now a lot of viewers are unknowingly permanently effected by it.

Somebody tell me how reading the King in Yellow book helped with enjoying this story.

Like I said in this thread the whole carcosa, yellow sign nonsense was just some bs some crazy rapists and murderers used to continue their rape and murder.

man i am so bummed that this season is over. sucks even more that Woody and Matthew most likely won't be back for next season.

Rico x Hood said:

Why should I have to draw my own conclusions? I'm not a writer on the show. You invest time into a show you deserve to have closure when it is done. This is one of the reasons I hate The Sopranos ending.

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That ain't what kinda world it is.

Man, that was a fun and entertaining 8 episodes. The scene of Rust just walking through those tunnels had me on the edge. Great performances throughout by Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey.

Great ending. Lots of questions that have been left unanswered but hey - thats how life is.

Amazing show, Amazing acting, great cinematography - simply beautiful.

Cohle had an epiphany, he felt love again. It was a surreal experience. I've had a similar thing happen to me before, but I was shrooming, what a great night that was

It's like Marty said. Can't get them all, but they got theirs in Errol. It's not taking down the whole Tuttle clan, but, pretty good.

I think the ending is basically Rust being at peace with himself, now. So many inner demons, hardline viewpoints and opinions about life and the world prior, but, that near death experience with all of them feels probably sets him on a better life path. Case closed, and while it may not be heaven where he was for that second or two, Rust knows that when it's his time to go, there's something awaiting him. He may feel he's supposed to be 'somewhere else,' instead of alive, best best believe our guy Rust is gonna get his life back on track. to Rust. And Marty.