NYK '14 offseason thread

What ninja turtle are you?

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Possibly. I'm scared of that though. Guy is like a ripped condom on defense.

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but really though. if he stepped it up on defense, hed make shump and JR disposable. as of right now we have to keep JR, since hes our 2nd option (sadly). the bonehead can play well if he can pull his head out of his *** and pipin between quarters.
 
If melo goes to Mia, the figure I saw was 70 M's left on the table.
This makes absolutely no sense. You think the Heat are going to try and sign him for $12M per year?

Knicks: 5 years, $129M, $26M/year

Any other max: 4 years, $96M, $24M/year

He's already agreed to opt out, so if he's not going to sign with the Knicks the 5th year is irrelevant. Where the hell are you getting a $70M loss from? Over 4 years it would be more like a $20M "loss" that is INSTANTLY made up via larger endorsements playing for the Heatles and winning a chip. Or he can be a chucking fatty on a bummy Knicks team till he retires. I could also see him land in Dallas though. Make a run with a motivated Dirk.
 
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why do people keep saying melo is fat...just because he isnt cut, doesnt mean hes fat. hes 6'8 ~240lbs. i swear people be blowing **** out their *** to sound tough.
 
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If melo goes to Mia, the figure I saw was 70 M's left on the table.
This makes absolutely no sense. You think the Heat are going to try and sign him for $12M per year?

Knicks: 5 years, $129M, $26M/year

Any other max: 4 years, $96M, $24M/year

He's already agreed to opt out, so if he's not going to sign with the Knicks the 5th year is irrelevant. Where the hell are you getting a $70M loss from? Over 4 years it would be more like a $20M "loss" that is INSTANTLY made up via larger endorsements playing for the Heatles and winning a chip. Or he can be a chucking fatty on a bummy Knicks team till he retires. I could also see him land in Dallas though. Make a run with a motivated Dirk.

How's it going sunshine? I see you compared two max deals: one from NY and another max deal from his new team. Did you notice that I said if he left for Miami? Miami is not giving him a max deal. The point is to make a big 4:
The most plausible scenario has Miami clearing $55 million in cap space to sign all four players. Let’s say they divide that pie evenly.
That would leave Carmelo with a starting salary of $13.8 million on a four-year contract totaling $58.8 million. Signing that kind of deal would force Carmelo to leave more than $70 million on the table.
Why that much?
The max contract Anthony can sign this summer with the Knicks is a five-year, $129 million deal, with a first-year salary of $22.4 million.

Also, you said he "agreed" to opt out. He didn't "agree" to anything. It's HIS option. And he has until the 23rd to notify NY he is doing so.

Are we on the same page now?

Thanks. K. Bye.
 
Melos fat and Chandler got chicken legs. Myths that became accepted as truth.
 
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How's it going sunshine? I see you compared two max deals: one from NY and another max deal from his new team. Did you notice that I said if he left for Miami? Miami is not giving him a max deal. The point is to make a big 4:
The most plausible scenario has Miami clearing $55 million in cap space to sign all four players. Let’s say they divide that pie evenly.
That would leave Carmelo with a starting salary of $13.8 million on a four-year contract totaling $58.8 million. Signing that kind of deal would force Carmelo to leave more than $70 million on the table.
Why that much?
The max contract Anthony can sign this summer with the Knicks is a five-year, $129 million deal, with a first-year salary of $22.4 million.

Also, you said he "agreed" to opt out. He didn't "agree" to anything. It's HIS option. And he has until the 23rd to notify NY he is doing so.

Are we on the same page now?

Thanks. K. Bye.

Your scenario is false. And you're calculating life of contract by base salary first year. Your math is all wrong. You're also comparing a 4 year deal to a 5 when saying he's leaving $70M on the table. Under your BS numbers he'd be leaving $40M over 4 on the table. Stay in school kids.
 
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How's it going sunshine? I see you compared two max deals: one from NY and another max deal from his new team. Did you notice that I said if he left for Miami? Miami is not giving him a max deal. The point is to make a big 4:
The most plausible scenario has Miami clearing $55 million in cap space to sign all four players. Let’s say they divide that pie evenly.
That would leave Carmelo with a starting salary of $13.8 million on a four-year contract totaling $58.8 million. Signing that kind of deal would force Carmelo to leave more than $70 million on the table.
Why that much?
The max contract Anthony can sign this summer with the Knicks is a five-year, $129 million deal, with a first-year salary of $22.4 million.

Also, you said he "agreed" to opt out. He didn't "agree" to anything. It's HIS option. And he has until the 23rd to notify NY he is doing so.

Are we on the same page now?

Thanks. K. Bye.

Your scenario is false. And you're calculating life of contract by base salary first year. Your math is all wrong. You're also comparing a 4 year deal to a 5 when saying he's leaving $70M on the table. Under your BS numbers he'd be leaving $40M over 4 on the table. Stay in school kids.

That's not my scenario it's from here: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/57143/miami-melo-heres-what-it-would-mean

And you have to compare a 4yr to a 5yr deal because he can only sign for 4 years if he leaves. If he opts out and resigns it's 5 years and more money.

Are we done here?
 
Why would you compare a 4 to a 5 if the 5 year deal is with a team he doesn't want to play for? The 5 year deal doesn't exist because he doesn't want to be a Knick. Period. Compare the avail 4 year deals on the other teams to what the Heat offer, period. That number is far less than $70Ms. And none of the other teams are offering immediate finals participation or playing with friends.
 
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Why would you compare a 4 to a 5 if the 5 year deal is with a team he doesn't want to play for? The 5 year deal doesn't exist because he doesn't want to be a Knick. Period. Compare the avail 4 year deals on the other teams to what the Heat offer, period. That number is far less than $70Ms. And none of the other teams are offering immediate finals participation or playing with friends.

Why would I compare 4yr to a 5yr deal? Because the comparison is based on him leaving the Knicks and the contract they can offer. HES LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE UPWARDS OF $70MM. Are you this dumb?
 
Knicks ain't in this discussion. He's bolting. $96M over 4 is the most he can make. Just accept that you're a lottery team next year. Dudes trying to spin the numbers...Deluded.
 
Melo'll be 34 going into 16th...17th season in 4 years, won't he?

He leaves $70M on the table, it's gone. And just that is more than 99% of NBA's dudes whole career earnings right there.
 
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its a simple concept...

ny can offer him a MAX of 5 years 129 mil
any other team can offer him a MAX of 4 years 96 mil

if he were to sign somewhere other than the knicks, hes giving up at least 33 mil if he signs for the MAX anywhere else

if he were to go to miami they would only be able to offer him a 4 year deal worth about 59 mil if they plan to keep bron, wade, and bosh too

thats a 70 mil difference between the total he can make in ny vs what he can make in miami

get it yet?
 
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if bosh goes to houston though...theyll be thrust into the top spot in the west (unless the spurs stay intact). not saying that bosh is that good, but his skillset fits perfectly with the rockets.
Rockets won't be any better. They'll still lose to to POR or OKC in the first round.

I don't see why ppl keep entertaining the idea that the Spurs will ever not be good. You gotta wait until rumors of Pop/Timmy retiring to even consider it.

If the Spurs aren't a factor there's still the Clippers and OKC to have the west before we just give it to the Rockets.
 
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