Originally Posted by do work son
while you may have seen schaub connect with andre "plenty of times", i've also seen him throw interceptions on simple out routes because his ball doesn't have velocity. i've seen DBs sit on throws because we don't stretch the field. i've seen him on countless 3rd downs buckle under pressure and just check down or eat a sack because he can't do anything. this past sunday, we had two goal to go situations early in the game. not one throw he made crossed the goal line.
i completely agree that it's not all on schaub. we haven't given him a complimentary receiver to andre. i understand that. with that being said, i've still seen him short arm throws deep where TDs turn into INTs. i'm not necessarily wanting manziel/mariota just because they run, but because they CAN run. they add another dimension. i want an athlete back there. i know it's unfair to compare to andrew luck, but he's an athletic pocket QB, that can create with his legs if he needs, and has a live arm.
a lot of fault also needs to be placed on gary kubiak. his offensive scheme, while productive, is archaic. there's no flash, no wrinkles. stretch, stretch, play action bootleg, occasional tight end screen. we agree that the texans can win with schaub but not because of him. you need too many things to be right for him to succeed. we don't have everything else right.
point being, if the QB is the most important position on offense, do you really want to pay a guy who's not a playmaker, and is more a game manager?
How much of that is arm, and how much of that is system/opposite WR? If a CB sits on a throw, doesn't that also mean he knew that play/throw was coming?
I'm not sayin Schaub is Elway, just that earlier in his career, his arm was decent enough. At this stage, yeah he probably has lost some on his fastball, so have Brady and Manning, so did Favre, Marino, etc.
Thing is, what I am suggesting, McCarron lets your team/offense stay in perfect harmony. You have to do better adding talent around him, but the philosophy stays the same. ZBS, RB's, receivers, everything.
If you switch to Mariota, Boyd, or Manziel, or whoever that is completely the opposite of the offense you currently run, then you are talking about a complete rebuild. Coach out, Oline changes, RB changes, everything. You have to then draft and switch all those pieces. Just like switchin a 3-4 defense to a 4-3, the parts are different, you have to re-organize the players. It can get tricky.
If you do that, that takes time, and you sort of bottom out doing it. If that's what you want, then I see your point, if you want to continue being a 10-11 win team, and try to just load up around a McCarron type (doesn't have to be just McCarron, could be anyone similar) and do a better job getting the weapons around your QB, then he's a solid pick. He can learn behind Schaub a year, then step right in. Bring in some receivers to team up with Nuk, find some young legs to replace Foster pretty soon, and one of these fancy 6-5 former basketball player type TE's and you could be in good shape real quick. We'll see, should be interesting what they do after this season.