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So a better prospect than justin Blackmon and/or tavon austin?


The first WRs taken last two years
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****. Watkins is going to crack the top five.

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post #2343 of 9105
Connor shaw and the kid who filled in for him were both trash. Connor shaw is more athletic than you'd expect but he's significantly worse QB than Mcgloin and Mcgloin is also trash
post #2344 of 9105
Are y'all serious bout this Sammy Watkins talk better than tavon by miles as a prospect and Blackmon is an animal when on the field. Blackmon reminded scouts of andre johnson so i cant say hes a huge difference in prospect. Watkins has Mike Wallace speed but actually high points like true no 1s can. This kid is special there was never a doubt he was top 5
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****. Watkins is going to crack the top five.
if all the QBs and Clowney are gone! Id go and get Watkins
post #2346 of 9105
I guess I would too, but it would be best of all to trade down if the right player isn't there.
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Are y'all serious bout this Sammy Watkins talk better than tavon by miles as a prospect and Blackmon is an animal when on the field. Blackmon reminded scouts of andre johnson so i cant say hes a huge difference in prospect. Watkins has Mike Wallace speed but actually high points like true no 1s can. This kid is special there was never a doubt he was top 5

You know I was hoping the combo of quarterback thirst, Clowney, Mack, Barr killing the combine, the depth at WR this year and his off the field stuff last year would get him to drop.

If the quarterbacks put on a show and the pass rushers perform at the combine I still think get makes it to 7 but seeing Mike Williams low cap number I think the Bucs take him.

The film, the advanced metrics, everything says he's legit. He's literally flawless outside of being 6'1 but it ain't like that's short.
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post #2348 of 9105
If I'm the Rams I take Teddy at 2.
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still on this 6'1 thing laugh.gif
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still on this 6'1 thing laugh.gif

Man I watch Calvin every Sunday, dude looks like a d-end playing receiver that's the standard laugh.gif
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So a better prospect than justin Blackmon and/or tavon austin?


The first WRs taken last two years
I really don't think Sammy has the same talent or ceiling as Blackmon. Of course, you can't ignore the off field stuff with Blackmon. He doesn't seem motivated or focused in Jacksonville. Change of scenery and better QB play can help. I want Blackmon to turn the corner like Dez, that level of potential is there.

Blackmon, Sammy, Tavon. My order.

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That'd be the logical choice, I honestly don't think they need any more WRs.

Bradford isn't the answer.

It should be QB at 2 and best OL at 13.
Don't love Schotty moving forward. I've held out for Bradford, there's no more defending him. One throw sticks out, think it was against Arizona, badly overthrows a wide open Pettis heading into the end zone.

Fisher will have to decide with Schotty would fits best of Teddy, Manziel, Bortles. I like the idea of trading back again. Last time brought them Brockers and Janoris. Could get one of the OT's that fall like Matthews or Robinson. Wait for a QB, if you like a Mettenberger or Garoppolo.
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post #2352 of 9105
Rams won't take a QB early they still have confidence in Bradford dont know why. Besides before he got hurt he was havin a pretty good season.
post #2353 of 9105
I'm still riding with Bradford.

They may as well trade down for Sammy.
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I'm still riding with Bradford.

They may as well trade down for Sammy.

Bradford has done less than Andy Dalton at this point in his career.

The only reason he's still getting a chance is a function of being the #1 pick. He's shown nothing beyond mediocrity in the NFL.
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I'm still riding with Bradford.

They may as well trade down for Sammy.

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Bradford has done less than Andy Dalton at this point in his career.

The only reason he's still getting a chance is a function of being the #1 pick. He's shown nothing beyond mediocrity in the NFL.
I really don't think STL needs a receiver.

Givens, Austin, Bailey, Pettis, Quick, Cook, Kendricks. Richardson, Stacy, Cunningham. Weapons for days on turf.

I'm losing faith in Bradford and I like Schotty even less.
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post #2356 of 9105
He'll be alright.

Just give me credit when he does well and I was the only one that hung on to the bandwagon.
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post #2357 of 9105
STL needs a tackle, badly. And they need players in their secondary.

I would be stunned if they didn't go O-line with one of their firsts.
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He'll be alright.

Just give me credit when he does well and I was the only one that hung on to the bandwagon.
You got it. I'm like that with certain players as well.
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STL needs a tackle, badly. And they need players in their secondary.

I would be stunned if they didn't go O-line with one of their firsts.
Trading back for additional pick(s) and getting Robinson isn't a bad deal. Some team will get QB happy depending which direction Houston goes.
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I'd almost say Minnesota should trade up to #2 for Teddy if they didn't have so many defensive holes.
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I'd almost say Minnesota should trade up to #2 for Teddy if they didn't have so many defensive holes.
Zimmer gonna retool the defense before even looking at the other side of the ball. Starting with Johnson.
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post #2361 of 9105
Best case scenario for STL is to trade back, since they don't want a QB, and I doubt they want Clowney either. #2 is really a great place to be this year.

And if Manziel does go #1, I sense the Jaguars would be overjoyed with either Bridgewater (apparently they've spent a lot of time on him) or Clowney (great building block for Bradley on D)
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I'd almost say Minnesota should trade up to #2 for Teddy if they didn't have so many defensive holes.
Zimmer gonna retool the defense before even looking at the other side of the ball. Starting with Johnson.

I agree. He's a defensive mind. He is a very smart football mind along with Spielman. They know that without a Q, any well built defense may not be enough to win consistently. It all depends on who they like at Q and where they can grab him, really.
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So a better prospect than justin Blackmon and/or tavon austin?


The first WRs taken last two years
I really don't think Sammy has the same talent or ceiling as Blackmon. Of course, you can't ignore the off field stuff with Blackmon. He doesn't seem motivated or focused in Jacksonville. Change of scenery and better QB play can help. I want Blackmon to turn the corner like Dez, that level of potential is there.

Blackmon, Sammy, Tavon. My order.

It is a BS statement.. Blackmon has the off field stuff that we know about and obviously is a walking suspension waiting to happen..

Without that, I'm taking Blackmon over Sammy..



But if I have a creative coach, then I want tavon.. If I had my choice of the 3 for the eagles, give me tavon
post #2364 of 9105
I'm trying to figure out why entering the draft Blackmon is a better prospect than Sammy.
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I'm trying to figure out why entering the draft Blackmon is a better prospect than Sammy.

Ya know...Repped for bringing it up, because I was just about to get this argument started.

Sammy > Blackmon
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post #2366 of 9105
Blackmon was absolutely dominate at Oklahoma state after the catch he was like a 215 Lb tail back.
post #2367 of 9105
And Sammy is a speedster who can take anything the distance and run all the routes in the tree. It's very close
post #2368 of 9105
Blackmon ran 4.46 at the combine.. What do you guys think Sammy going run?
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Blackmon was absolutely dominate at Oklahoma state after the catch he was like a 215 Lb tail back.

OK st. threw a **** ton compared to this last Clemson squad. Watkins was still over 100 receptions and I'm willing to bet they had considerably less attempts than that OK. st. squad. And YAC is a lot different in a spread offense like the Cowboys ran 99% of the time.
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post #2370 of 9105
Blackmon and Watkins are both incredible talents. But if I had to decide I'd go watkins. He will run a sub 4.3 I'd imagine the dude is
Noticeably faster than everybody out there.
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