2014 NFL Draft Thread

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@GUNNA GET IT Personnel wise... Yes. I really do. I would say 3 pieces specifically... 2 are on the offensive line and the linebacking core adjustment. Offensive tackle is pretty deep in this draft, I have said trade down a ton of times, get more picks in a big time draft like this and pick up a Yankey or Gabe Jackson and Mewhort or Richardson. Tight ends killed them. Get a good MLB (Jones or Barrow), push Ellerbee to OLB and keep Misi at OLB or pick up a Ronald Powell in the 5th/6th would be great too. All much easier said then done.

But for me it comes down to coaching and scheme... Bill Lazon can and will be the x-factor. He will either find success with his offense, which the Dolphins offense the last two years has been so predictable, or it will crash and burn and they start finding another head coach... but I am excited to see what he brings in, see if Wallcae/Tanny gel.
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We would be 2-3 pieces away from contending, IF, and only IF, multiple other guys step up from last year. IE, Jamar Taylor, Dion Jordan finally getting on the field, Wallace and Tannehill same page, Miller stepping up, and Reshad Jones back to 2012 scheme.

THEN, add 1-2 guys on the Oline, and 1-2 nice LBers to step in, they would be good enough to compete in the AFC. Knock off Denver or New England? That would be a whirlwind of good fortune from all the players I listed, plus Philbin growing a brain, plus Lazor working Foles like magic on Tannehill, as well as perfect health, etc.

Bascially, odds are long. So they should just try to draft as many solid pieces as they can, get the team as deep as possible, and hope for as much improvement as possible.
 
Wouldn't even be surprised if Jerry pulled it off. You know he thinks business first, football second.

He's smart enough to know what kind of $$$$$ Manziel will add to his wallet.
 
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drafting Manziel? What the hell are they gonna do trade Romo? I can't see a team wanting that contract coming off major back surgery
 
CP1708 said:
We would be 2-3 pieces away from contending, IF, and only IF, multiple other guys step up from last year. IE, Jamar Taylor, Dion Jordan finally getting on the field, Wallace and Tannehill same page, Miller stepping up, and Reshad Jones back to 2012 scheme.

THEN, add 1-2 guys on the Oline, and 1-2 nice LBers to step in, they would be good enough to compete in the AFC. Knock off Denver or New England? That would be a whirlwind of good fortune from all the players I listed, plus Philbin growing a brain, plus Lazor working Foles like magic on Tannehill, as well as perfect health, etc.

Bascially, odds are long. So they should just try to draft as many solid pieces as they can, get the team as deep as possible, and hope for as much improvement as possible.
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Exactly. Which is what I believe will happen. We've already talked about it plenty but all of the rookies really had a red shirt year from last year. They will make some noise for sure.

I do think Tanny's drops and timing will be fixed for Wallace. If he gets a little rainbow action to let Wallace run then success.

Miller's carries will be split with Moreno, wouldn't be surprised if it's 70/30... but he still has big play potential in that 30%.

Some of it was players last year, a lot of it was bad coaching.

But specifically talking about personnel I do think it is close. Being out coached often is another conversation.
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As much as I hate on the Cowboys, Jerry seems to genuinely like his players and former players always stick up for him.

Jerry Jones is good for the NFL.
 
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drafting Manziel? What the hell are they gonna do trade Romo? I can't see a team wanting that contract coming off major back surgery
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Exactly...Romo and Witten would be the only pieces the Cowboys have to move up. Nobody's gonna take Romo, but Jerry would be dumb enough to trade a HOF TE for a undersized flashy QB :smh:

I need to buy the cowboys...unfortunately I'm only $999,999,999 short

As much as I hate on the Cowboys, Jerry seems to genuinely like his players and former players always stick up for him.
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That's the whole problem. His treatment of the players undermines the coaches...which is why he's had a band of underachievers since JJ left

Jerry Jones is good for the NFL.
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That he is...horrible for Dallas fans...but good for LULZ for every other franchise.
 
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drafting Manziel? What the hell are they gonna do trade Romo? I can't see a team wanting that contract coming off major back surgery
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Browns.

They got the cap space, he would make them a playoff team.
 
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When I type in "Tony Romo co..." in Google

Tony Romo contract
Tony Romo comes out of the closet

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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“It’s often said, Why don’t I get someone to be the G.M.? Why don’t I get someone to pick the players?” Jones said. “Well, who in the world do you think that person, when they walk through the door and say, ‘We want to get this player, and we want to pay this player,’ what in the world do you think I’m going to do? I’m going to sit down, and I’m going to go through it, and I’m going to say, ‘Show me the player before I write the check. Show me the player. And let me see everything about the player.’ Well, rather than have that happen, I get involved in it and get to know everything there is to know about the players before they get through the door.”
 
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“It’s often said, Why don’t I get someone to be the G.M.? Why don’t I get someone to pick the players?” Jones said. “Well, who in the world do you think that person, when they walk through the door and say, ‘We want to get this player, and we want to pay this player,’ what in the world do you think I’m going to do? I’m going to sit down, and I’m going to go through it, and I’m going to say, ‘Show me the player before I write the check. Show me the player. And let me see everything about the player.’ Well, rather than have that happen, I get involved in it and get to know everything there is to know about the players before they get through the door.”
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  So are the Cowboys or Diplomats the Knicks of the NFL?  Or are they just both?
 
Snyder hired competent folks years ago to run his organization, please don't compare him to Jerry.

There's no way the Boys trade Romo the cap hit would be astronomical. They've been restructuring his contract for years and owe him a ton of money, almost half of his guaranteed $ in his extension is from his last contract.
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...-mayocks-position-rankings-for-2014-nfl-draft

mayock's position rankings:

Quarterback  
1. Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M 
2. Blake Bortles, Central Florida 
3. Derek Carr, Fresno State 
4. Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois 
T-5. Zach Mettenberger, LSU 
T-5. Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville

New entry:  Mettenberger 
Rise:  Carr (4), Garoppolo (T-5) 
Fall:  Bridgewater (3) 
Out:  AJ McCarron, Alabama (T-5)

Running back  
1. Bishop Sankey, Washington 
2. Carlos Hyde, Ohio State 
3. Jeremy Hill, LSU 
4. Tre Mason, Auburn 
5. Andre Williams, Boston College

Wide receiver  
1. Sammy Watkins, Clemson 
2. Mike Evans, Texas A&M 
3. Odell Beckham Jr., LSU 
4. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State 
T-5. Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State 
T-5. Marqise Lee, USC

Rise:  Beckham Jr. (T-5) 
Fall:  Lee (3) 
Out:  Jarvis Landry, LSU (T-5)

Tight end  
1. Eric Ebron, North Carolina 
2. Jace Amaro, Texas Tech 
3. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington 
4. Troy Niklas, Notre Dame 
5. C.J. Fiedorowicz, Iowa

Rise:  Amaro (3) 
Fall:  Seferian-Jenkins (2)

Center  
1. Marcus Martin, USC 
2. Weston Richburg, Colorado State 
3. Travis Swanson, Arkansas 
4. Bryan Stork, Florida State 
5. Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma

Guard  
1. Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA 
2. David Yankey, Stanford 
3. Trai Turner, LSU 
4. Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State 
5. Chris Watt, Notre Dame

New entry:  Watt 
Rise:  Su'a-Filo (2), Turner (4), Jackson (5) 
Fall:  Yankey (1) 
Out:  Brandon Thomas (injury), Clemson (3)

Offensive tackle  
1. Greg Robinson, Auburn 
2. Jake Matthews, Texas A&M 
3. Taylor Lewan, Michigan 
4. Zack Martin, Notre Dame 
T-5. Joel Bitonio, Nevada 
T-5. Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama

New entry:  Kouandjio

Defensive tackle  
1. Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh 
2. Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota 
3. Timmy Jernigan, Florida State 
4. Louis Nix, Notre Dame 
5. Dominique Easley, Florida

New entry:  Easley 
Rise:  Hageman (4) 
Fall:  Jernigan (2), Nix (3) 
Out:  Daniel McCullers, Tennessee (5)

Defensive end  
1. Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina 
2. Kony Ealy, Missouri 
3. Dee Ford, Auburn 
4. Scott Crichton, Oregon State 
5. Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame

Outside linebacker  
1. Khalil Mack, Buffalo 
2. Anthony Barr, UCLA 
3. Ryan Shazier, Ohio State 
4. Demarcus Lawrence, Boise St. 
5. Kyle Van Noy, BYU

New entry:  Lawrence, Van Noy 
Out:  Trent Murphy, Stanford (4); Marcus Smith, Louisville (5)

Inside linebacker  
1. C.J. Mosley, Alabama 
2. Chris Borland, Wisconsin 
3. Preston Brown, Louisville 
4. Max Bullough, Michigan State 
5. Shayne Skov, Stanford

Rise:  Brown (5) 
Fall:  Skov (3)

Rise:  Fuller (2) Cornerback  
1. Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech 
2. Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State 
3. Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State 
4. Bradley Roby, Ohio State 
5. Jason Verrett, TCU

Fall:  Dennard (1)

Safety  
1. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama 
2. Calvin Pryor, Louisville 
3. Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois 
4. Deone Bucannon, Washington State 
5. Lamarcus Joyner, Florida State
 
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